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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭perrito caliente


    Unbelievable the flu virus must be very partial to everyone you know�� because I work in a private hospital employing 250 people and we are offered the flu vaccine every year and 75% take it without fail. Not one person in our place got the flu this year or last year or the year before. Two people got it in 2017 and they didn't have the vaccine. Why am I replying to to this kind of braindead posting? I must be running a temperature.

    Get off yer high horse you clown. What I said was true and I couldn't care less whether you believe it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,093 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Xertz wrote: »
    Serious question:

    A friend of mine's GP retired during the year and he has discovered that he is currently not on the books of any GP.

    What do you do in circumstances like that?

    Seems they were a one-man-band type GP without any support staff or clinic or any of that kind of thing.

    HSE should provide him a GP, he should contact them asap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,052 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    mickdw wrote: »
    These layoffs are not like traditiinal layoffs. A large percentage of these workers will be needed immediately on reopening.
    What this does show is that the majority of businesses appear to be running with no cash reserves and cannot withstand any shock at all.
    It is even more worrying that many households are in similar situations and cannot even survive one week without cash income

    Yep. Work will return.


    Unless people are predicting Mad Max or The Walking Dead style futures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,025 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie



    They have no idea what’s coming........ (or they do and don’t give a fcuk).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭threeball


    Strazdas wrote: »
    US media seems to have done a very good job of warning the public of the huge risks. "Flatten the curve" and the need for social distancing is all over the media.

    That must be why they're panic buying guns so.
    Big governments coming for them, its all a conspiracy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,671 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    pjohnson wrote: »
    It sounds bizarre. Any business folding completely with no hope of return must've been in a pretty desperate state before this virus a lá FlyBe.

    The country is full of small business like this, getting by month to month but you seem utterly oblivious of the ecomony.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    Quick question to everyone. I’m looking for guidance. My OH (A Severe asthma sufferer) works for a branch of the civil service which is objectively non-essential staff. She is working in a closed office with no windows open and minimal adherence to hand gels and usual etiquettes. I’m a recently recovered cancer survivor and our usual baby sitter is now potentially infected (going for a test ASAP) thus we are all now potentially infected as exposure period of 5 days A-symptomatic occurred. This said though my O.H is more than happy to indefinitely continue on working in this non essential position leaving me now in de facto babysitting duty of our 2 young boys under 6. Our own parents are all over 75 so zero backups available. I’m exhausted and about to breakdown with stress both emotionally and financially as my business has imploded. She has requested home remote work and was essentially rejected however other staff junior to her position have been approved on this potentially life saving option. Am I out of line suggesting she screws her head on and tells the boss to go F%&* himself and that our family come first. Can she be fired (20 plus years service) ? If so can she (under the CRAZY circumstances) be legally covered under “constructive dismissal” precedences ? Need help here big time guys as I’m formulating my argument that can either be life or death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    HSE should provide him a GP, he should contact them asap

    He was saying he tried making appointments with various GPs and was turned away as 'full up' and then he didn't have anything wrong with him for the last 12+ months to warrant registering with any one, so it just didn't come up.

    I have my doubts that this situation's unique either. We tend to treat GPs as a walk-in service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,025 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    rob316 wrote: »
    All a full lockdown will do is create panic. We lose our **** over bad weather warnings we couldn't hack it.

    Yeah your right, I mean forget about all the lives it could potentially save..........:confused::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    greenpilot wrote: »
    A few days? Where do you think 90% of materials for the DIY Industry is made? China stopped manufacturing almost two months ago and there have been no deliveries since. We ran out of stock on Friday. Game over.
    And some were posting earlier about the supply chain not having been impacted.

    China stuttering back into production, but shipping capacity for products still very much reduced.

    Sorry that it has impacted on you and your family, best wishes for the future.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,954 ✭✭✭Bigus


    gozunda wrote: »
    Figures for numbers infected by date and totals*

    Date - Number Infected

    29 Feb 1 (Total 1)

    3 March 1 (Total 2)

    4 March 4 (Total 6)

    5 March 7 (Total 13)

    6 March 5 (Total 18 )

    7 March 1 (Total 19)

    8 March 2 (Total 21)

    9 March 3 (Total 24)

    10 March 10 (Total 34)

    11 March 9 (Total 43) 1 death

    12 March 27 (Total 70)

    13 March 20 (Total 90)

    14 March 39 (Total 139) 1 death

    15 March 40 (Total 169)

    16 March 54 (Total 223)

    Figures on the scale of community type infection is unknown at this time
    Source:https://www.gov.ie/en/news/7e0924-latest-updates-on-covid-19-coronavirus/#march-1-15

    I know the figures are wrong , but they’ve been wrong form the start , but those figures are far from exponential, which is good , amongst the bad .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,723 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    pjohnson wrote: »
    It sounds bizarre. Any business folding completely with no hope of return must've been in a pretty desperate state before this virus a lá FlyBe.

    Something really stinks about all these snap lay offs alright. We'll be back to 2010 levels of unemployment if it keeps up. Hundreds of thousands out of work.

    I understand that some job losses would have occurred, even many, because of this pandemic. But it's the finger snap decision, a mere few days into some closures, that doesn't sound right about this at all.

    I think my mate (who just got news today of being "let go") might be correct. It could be just certain businesses looking to offload staff and the then hire cheaper labour when this is all over, using Corona virus as an excuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭threeball


    Jenbach110 wrote: »
    I dont think 10bn will have any effect on the crisis!
    140k people unemployed this week

    Preferable to the zero currently planned. Just don't give it to the fcuking banks this time. It should be used for temporary SW payments and business supports.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Bigus wrote: »
    I know the figures are wrong , but they’ve been wrong form the start , but those figures are far from exponential, which is good , amongst the bad .

    If the exponent is 1.3 they're not that far off.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 154 ✭✭Jenbach110


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Yep. Work will return.


    Unless people are predicting Mad Max or The Walking Dead style futures.

    No people are predicting reality.
    Lots of posters accused of burying their head in sand and not paying the virus the respect it requires, the same is true of people ignoring the economic issue we are staring at.
    When do you predict "work will return"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,200 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Life goes on, long after the Covid-19 has gone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    pjohnson wrote: »
    It sounds bizarre. Any business folding completely with no hope of return must've been in a pretty desperate state before this virus a lá FlyBe.
    Not every business has the cash reserves of Apple, Google etc.

    Do you still want that full lockdown now? Totally depress the economy where there'll be no going back, not in our life time anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,093 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    LaFuton wrote: »
    don't tell me tom hanks' other half is named wilson?!

    OMG yes Mrs. Hanks is Rita WILSON :o:D

    1484237210907


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    Xertz wrote: »
    Serious question:

    A friend of mine's GP retired during the year and he has discovered that he is currently not on the books of any GP.

    What do you do in circumstances like that?

    Seems they were a one-man-band type GP without any support staff or clinic or any of that kind of thing.

    He's a private patient, so it's nothing to do with medical cards or anything like that, just he has no GP and all the advice is "call your GP".

    Are GPs not accepting new patients at the moment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭Talisman


    Unbelievable - Baldrick is obviously alive and well then so where's Blackadder?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,336 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    sdanseo wrote: »
    If the exponent is 0.3 they're pretty spot on.

    HSE experts say they will be watching the numbers like a hawk to see what impact social distancing has on them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 154 ✭✭Jenbach110


    rob316 wrote: »
    The country is full of small business like this, getting by month to month but you seem utterly oblivious of the ecomony.

    Yeah its well know business have operated like this for decades.
    If small business were that cash rich and simplistic I would start up one myself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,723 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    greenpilot wrote: »
    A few days? Where do you think 90% of materials for the DIY Industry is made? China stopped manufacturing almost two months ago and there have been no deliveries since. We ran out of stock on Friday. Game over.

    Yes, I suppose. Fair point in your case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Something really stinks about all these snap lay offs alright. We'll be back to 2010 levels of unemployment if it keeps up. Hundreds of thousands out of work.

    I understand that some job losses would have occurred, even many, because of this pandemic. But it's the finger snap decision, a mere few days into some closures, that doesn't sound right about this at all.

    I think my mate (who just got news today of being "let go") might be correct. It could be just certain businesses looking to offload staff and the then hire cheaper labour when this is all over, using Corona virus as an excuse.

    There's no stink. This is capitalism. A handful of large companies can afford to pay people to do nothing while taking nothing in. Most cannot. Many small employers will struggle to cover their own living expenses and they have a duty to themselves and their own families, same as anyone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭dharma200


    dalyboy wrote: »
    Quick question to everyone. I’m looking for guidance. My OH works for a branch of the civil service which is objectively non-essential staff. She is working in a closed office with no windows open and minimal adherence to hand gels and usual etiquettes. I’m a recently recovered cancer survivor and our usual baby sitter is now potentially infected (going for a test ASAP) thus we are all now potentially infected as exposure period of 5 days A-symptomatic occurred. This said though my O.H is more than happy to indefinitely continue on working in this non essential position leaving me now in de facto babysitting duty of our 2 young boys under 6. Our own parents are all over 75 so zero backups available. I’m exhausted and about to breakdown with stress both emotionally and financially as my business has imploded. Am I out of line suggesting she screws her head on and tells the boss to go F%&* himself and that our family come first. Can she be fired (20 plus years service) ? If so can she (under the CRAZY circumstances) be legally covered under “constructive dismissal” precedences ? Need help here big time guys

    You need to talk with her properly. Is she in a union. She should take sick leave tomorrow. She should not tell her boss to go fu c k himself but she should put herself into isolation now, with her family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,493 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Xertz wrote: »
    Serious question:

    A friend of mine's GP retired during the year and he has discovered that he is currently not on the books of any GP.

    What do you do in circumstances like that?

    Seems they were a one-man-band type GP without any support staff or clinic or any of that kind of thing.

    He's a private patient, so it's nothing to do with medical cards or anything like that, just he has no GP and all the advice is "call your GP".
    https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/list/2/healthcentres/ https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/list/2/primarycare/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Scotty # wrote: »
    Wrong. It's actually less than 0.05%

    Yea, I actually tried to do the math in my head, puts it even more into perspective, though Italys number look really bad its a 1 in every 200 chance of contracting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,052 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    rob316 wrote: »
    The country is full of small business like this, getting by month to month but you seem utterly oblivious of the ecomony.

    No but I've seen plenty of small cafe's close up only for a new cafe to open up two doors down a month later. Same with pubs closing and new ones opening. Or clothes shops closing to be replaced by new ones or hairdressers etc.


    The idea that the barmen currently unemployed have no absolutely no future is lunacy. Even if somehow all the bars that are closed now never reopen are you trying to say not one new bar will open to replace the perma closed bar thus providing those now unemployed staff with new employment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭1wizards sleeve


    bekker wrote: »
    And some were posting earlier about the supply chain not having been impacted.

    China stuttering back into production, but shipping capacity for products still very much reduced.

    Sorry that it has impacted on you and your family, best wishes for the future.
    Hopefully it's the wake up the rest.of the world needed to reduce there need for cheap Chinese products.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Seriously?

    After a few days of relative turmoil? Everyone gone?

    Could there not have been a close for a week or so and see how things went? Did it really have to be the nuclear option?

    Honestly, something just doesn't sound right at all about all of these lay offs.

    I feel sorry for GT I really do

    But if a business in operation for 30 years supplying the DIY trade survived the 2008 recession and goes bust after not even a week of slack business due to the virus, I think the boss was obviously only keeping going from week to week tbh


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