CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

ITman88 · 17-03-2020 01:01AM

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

You can apply for emergency social welfare online

Won’t cover expenses in a household like described, not even close

pjohnson · 17-03-2020 01:02AM

greenpilot wrote: »

Good for you. Hope it lasts for you. I was let go today. 4 kids in the house. Mortgage. Whole business on the go 30 years closed for good. We must be the other guys then.

If the business was healthy for 30 years no reason it can't restart after things go back to normal. When demand returns so will work.

threeball · 17-03-2020 01:03AM

greenpilot wrote: »

I'm afraid not. Those already let go, the 130,000 or so, will not be able to afford it. I can tell you folks Now, there is an even bigger disaster coming down the tracks any day. If one of the big groups, such as Grafton, who own Woodies and Chadwicks among others, closes, the domino effect will be crushing. You would not believe the number of associated companies which will go if they go.

Some big companies will fail no doubt as they will have so much credit out there. Alot of people won't pay as they'll be worrying about their own funds so you will have a domino effect. Others will use it as an excuse to skip out of paying just like 2008.

CinemaGuy45 · 17-03-2020 01:03AM

OK dead serious post.

We need essential services and food a full lockdown is not going to happen it would end the economy.

I really feel for those people who have been laid off I have been there myself a couple of times it is not nice.

These steps are to try and slow the spread of this thing to try and give the hospitals a chance to deal with this thing the reality is it looks like most of us are going to get this thing sooner or later.

The welfare bill has just doubled and the tax take has dropped off the cliff the Government are not doing this for the fun of it.

People on the hospital frontlines are getting close to the thing we are all running away from we should do everything to try and help.

Pubs are shut for good reason people have demonstrated they can not act in a decent manner.

People are going to die however if we spread this out less people will die as more people who are serious will get a chance of ventilators and decent treatment.

Elderly people are scared and many of us are scared for them maybe instead of crying people might ask themselves what they can do to help?

Westernyelp · 17-03-2020 01:03AM

greenpilot wrote: »

I'm afraid not. Those already let go, the 130,000 or so, will not be able to afford it. I can tell you folks Now, there is an even bigger disaster coming down the tracks any day. If one of the big groups, such as Grafton, who own Woodies and Chadwicks among others, closes, the domino effect will be crushing. You would not believe the number of associated companies which will go if they go.

That's tough. My only hope is that collectively we will become 'too big to fail' and something drastic and unprecedented will have to be done on a global level to help. Very wishful thinking I know. best of luck

Tony EH · 17-03-2020 01:03AM

greenpilot wrote: »

Good for you. Hope it lasts for you. I was let go today. 4 kids in the house. Mortgage. Whole business on the go 30 years closed for good. We must be the other guys then.

greenpilot wrote: »

We supply to the DIY trade. Or did.

Seriously?

After a few days of relative turmoil? Everyone gone?

Could there not have been a close for a week or so and see how things went? Did it really have to be the nuclear option?

Honestly, something just doesn't sound right at all about all of these lay offs.

Outlaw Pete · 17-03-2020 01:04AM

greenpilot wrote: »

Good for you. Hope it lasts for you. I was let go today. 4 kids in the house. Mortgage. Whole business on the go 30 years closed for good. We must be the other guys then.

Sorry to hear that. Was reading that in the States they are trying to get funding for emergency loans for small businesses currently affected. Something similar's needed here for sure.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/16/sba-small-business-disaster-loans-never-met-test-like-coronavirus.html

BorneTobyWilde · 17-03-2020 01:04AM

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Few out and about.

LaFuton · 17-03-2020 01:04AM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson have left hospital

don't tell me tom hanks' other half is named wilson?!

threeball · 17-03-2020 01:04AM

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

A hospital in Brescia (one of the hardest-hit regions in Italy) ran out of ICU valves and the supply chain was broken. A local company brought a 3D printer to the hospital, redesigned & produced the valves in 6 hours resulting in the many lives of Covid-19 patients

The end product :

link

KUDOS !!!

Article

Fair play, wouldn't fancy their PPE though

holyhead · 17-03-2020 01:05AM

Does anyone have figures for Spain for the 16th in terms of daily deaths?

Jenbach110 · 17-03-2020 01:05AM

pjohnson wrote: »

If the business was healthy for 30 years no reason it can't restart after things go back to normal. When demand returns so will work.

When things go back to normal??
That is not in the foreseeable future

Cilldara_2000 · 17-03-2020 01:05AM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce will receive no pay for three months.

I know he's minted but that's showing leadership imo.

Pass me the bucket. He gets paid AUS$24m per annum. Him and his ilk have not only ruined capitalism but also the planet since they turned every PLC the world over into nothing other than vehicles for enrichment of executives. Shareholder value my arse, it's all about how much these people can get away with fleecing.

patnor1011 · 17-03-2020 01:06AM

ITman88 wrote: »

Won’t cover expenses in a household like described, not even close

It is to help you to survive and not to cover your expenses.

pjohnson · 17-03-2020 01:07AM

Tony EH wrote: »

Seriously?

After a few days of relative turmoil? Everyone gone?

Could there not have been a close for a week or so and see how things went? Did it really have to be the nuclear option?

Honestly, something just doesn't sound right at all about all of these lay offs.

It sounds bizarre. Any business folding completely with no hope of return must've been in a pretty desperate state before this virus a lá FlyBe.

Airyfairy12 · 17-03-2020 01:07AM

ITman88 wrote: »

Won’t cover expenses in a household like described, not even close

Its better than nothing. Worth applying for it regardless.

threeball · 17-03-2020 01:07AM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Sorry to hear that. Was reading that in the States they are trying to arrange emergency loans for small businesses, something similar needed here for sure.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/16/sba-small-business-disaster-loans-never-met-test-like-coronavirus.html

Realistically the government needs to borrow 10bn. Its relatively cheap finance. They need to keep people paid and businesses viable. Tax it back later like a USC. It will be far more costly if we have massive unemployment afterwards

Xertz · 17-03-2020 01:07AM

Serious question:

A friend of mine's GP retired during the year and he has discovered that he is currently not on the books of any GP.

What do you do in circumstances like that?

Seems they were a one-man-band type GP without any support staff or clinic or any of that kind of thing.

He's a private patient, so it's nothing to do with medical cards or anything like that, just he has no GP and all the advice is "call your GP".

OneEightSeven · 17-03-2020 01:07AM

holyhead wrote: »

Does anyone have figures for Spain for the 16th in terms of daily deaths?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Spain

greenpilot · 17-03-2020 01:07AM

Tony EH wrote: »

Seriously?

After a few days of relative turmoil? Everyone gone?

Could there not have been a close for a week or so and see how things went? Did it really have to be the nuclear option?

Honestly, something just doesn't sound right at all about all of these lay offs.

A few days? Where do you think 90% of materials for the DIY Industry is made? China stopped manufacturing almost two months ago and there have been no deliveries since. We ran out of stock on Friday. Game over.

Strazdas · 17-03-2020 01:07AM

US media seems to have done a very good job of warning the public of the huge risks. "Flatten the curve" and the need for social distancing is all over the media.

rob316 · 17-03-2020 01:08AM

All a full lockdown will do is create panic. We lose our **** over bad weather warnings we couldn't hack it.

Jenbach110 · 17-03-2020 01:08AM

Tony EH wrote: »

Seriously?

After a few days of relative turmoil? Everyone gone?

Could there not have been a close for a week or so and see how things went? Did it really have to be the nuclear option?

Honestly, something just doesn't sound right at all about all of these lay offs.

Lots of companies dont trade with the option of closing unplanned for a single day never mind indefinitely.
Cash flow is critical and its been wiped out with the response

mickdw · 17-03-2020 01:08AM

These layoffs are not like traditiinal layoffs. A large percentage of these workers will be needed immediately on reopening.
What this does show is that the majority of businesses appear to be running with no cash reserves and cannot withstand any shock at all.
It is even more worrying that many households are in similar situations and cannot even survive one week without cash income

JP Liz V1 · 17-03-2020 01:08AM

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

I wish they would just lock the place down. I was in town today, half the cafe's and restaurants closed, hardley much open only a few shops and pennys and the amount of people just hanging out in groups, standing around shops and loitering around the place. So many groups of teenagers around the place and kids running around the supermarket. It was like the Summer holidays.

Yes I have seem the same, teenagers out in large close groups, they need to be curfewed and not allowed out in groups

As we still have cases rising in big numbers, would a complete town and city lockdown and curfew be worthwhile being done now instead of after March 29th

threeball · 17-03-2020 01:09AM

pjohnson wrote: »

It sounds bizarre. Any business folding completely with no hope of return must've been in a pretty desperate state before this virus a lá FlyBe.

Cashflow can kill you in next to no time especially where stock is perishable or has high turnover. Credit lines from suppliers would be tightening too.

briancoolcat · 17-03-2020 01:09AM

perrito caliente wrote: »

Small sample size but everyone I know that got the flu vaccine got the flu.

Unbelievable the flu virus must be very partial to everyone you knowðŸ˜¬ because I work in a private hospital employing 250 people and we are offered the flu vaccine every year and 75% take it without fail. Not one person in our place got the flu this year or last year or the year before. Two people got it in 2017 and they didn't have the vaccine. Why am I replying to to this kind of braindead posting? I must be running a temperature.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 17-03-2020 01:10AM

Xertz wrote: »

Serious question:

A friend of mine's GP retired during the year and he has discovered that he is currently not on the books of any GP.

What do you do in circumstances like that?

Get in touch with the HSE or Dept of Health.

If he gets sick and needs help then ring the emergency services.

gozunda · 17-03-2020 01:10AM

Figures for numbers infected by date and totals*

Date - Number Infected

29 Feb - 1 (Total 1)

3 March - 1 (Total 2)

4 March - 4 (Total 6)

5 March - 7 (Total 13)

6 March - 5 (Total 18 )

7 March - 1 (Total 19)

8 March - 2 (Total 21)

9 March - 3 (Total 24)

10 March - 10 (Total 34)

11 March - 9 (Total 43) 1 death

12 March - 27 (Total 70)

13 March - 20 (Total 90)

14 March - 39 (Total 139) 1 death

15 March - 40 (Total 169)

16 March - 54 (Total 223)

Figures on the scale of community type infection is unknown at this time
Source:https://www.gov.ie/en/news/7e0924-latest-updates-on-covid-19-coronavirus/#march-1-15

Jenbach110 · 17-03-2020 01:10AM

threeball wrote: »

Realistically the government needs to borrow 10bn. Its relatively cheap finance. They need to keep people paid and businesses viable. Tax it back later like a USC. It will be far more costly if we have massive unemployment afterwards

I dont think 10bn will have any effect on the crisis!
140k people unemployed this week

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP