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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #3692
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    nacho libre wrote: »
    no, according to rob316 a lockdown is an overreaction. we should just accept Elderly people will die from this and just get on with life.

    They will die and people should stop been in denial, I'm scared as anyone but I'm a realist.

    Its absolutely awful what's happening and I'm not trying to troll or downplay. It will come to each and everyone of our doors or someone close, family or friend. There is no vaccine, their is no cure, backs are against the wall here big time.

    I am hugely confident things will look alot brighter in a few weeks from now.


  • #3693
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Strazdas wrote: »
    In theory yes, but viruses are hugely unpredictable. They can grow at a ferocious rate but suddenly level off (perhaps running out of suitable people to infect.....many people have excellent immune systems and many more might even be somehow immune to the virus).

    Or smart enough to stay away from people


  • #3694
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    What is your problem?

    Essential economic stuff must carryon.


    Fooking idiots on top of each other getting pissed is not needed.

    What part of this do you not understand?

    So the hospitality trade isnt essential to the economy.

    Ffs.


  • #3695
    shoppergal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭shoppergal


    Mellor wrote: »
    Why is that holy crap?
    They’d be 33% of the population. If anything that’s better than a high % of +65 cases
    Yes of course you're right, it just took me by surprise.


  • #3696
    wotzgoingon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    I think I have Corona Virus. I've been sick the past few days. But thinking about it further I probably have a normal flu.


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  • #3697
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    millb wrote: »
    Unreal if that is still the case... did HSE put in orders? Or are we waiting 7 weeks lead-time (due in May) for imported units?

    New ventilators should be "smart" enabled (ie like a Defib) which would / should be easy to monitor and operate. They will be needed at every clinic and probably on the black market too

    Hse have ordered 70. 60 ICU grade and 10 mobile ones.


  • #3698
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    What is your problem?

    Essential economic stuff must carryon.


    Fooking idiots on top of each other getting pissed is not needed.

    What part of this do you not understand?

    He has a point
    Infections will continue to increase then. That's the trade off. To stop infections spreading everywhere must close. Closing pubs but leaving offices open will make zero difference to stoping soread


  • #3699
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,045 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Lundstram wrote: »
    Have you been living under a rock? Use the SD and hand-washing guidelines that's rammed down your neck every day and you'll be fine. Drunks in pubs are incapable of this hence why they're closed.

    And despite the huge amount of drunks in the country Holohan somehow thinks social distancing will work?


  • #3700
    ldy4mxonucwsq6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Not a great time to be a man - were all these skiing trips boys schools?

    DccpjL7.jpg

    Women have a more enhanced immune system than men (man flu is a real thing lol).

    Thanks mainly to genes X chromosome and hormones, it doesn't really benefit when it comes to auto immune diseases but it's well known that women live longer too in general.


  • #3701
    Cypher_sounds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,270 ✭✭✭Cypher_sounds


    Humberto Salazar wrote: »
    41 out of 1m people is not riddled. It is a cluster. But it will rise hugely, I grant you.

    Have 1million been tested?


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  • #3702
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Strazdas wrote: »
    In theory yes, but viruses are hugely unpredictable. They can grow at a ferocious rate but suddenly level off (perhaps running out of suitable people to infect.....many people have excellent immune systems and many more might even be somehow immune to the virus).

    There are 7.5 billion people on this earth, and besides the people that have already had covid - ZERO people have immunity.


  • #3703
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,997 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    milhous wrote: »
    Would that be down to testing capacity though?

    Well in the case of Italy there are still more new cases everyday than the day before so that means they haven't reached a ceiling in the number of tests, but yes eventually it could become a factor.

    China and South Korea have undoubtedly got things under control for now. Iran is anyone's guess.


  • #3704
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    perrito caliente wrote: »
    Why aren't China trying to get 'herd immunity' across their one billion whatever population I wonder?!

    Maybe they already have it. Be interesting see what happens in Wuhan.


  • #3705
    fishy_fishy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭fishy_fishy


    RogerThis wrote: »
    Going by Leo's 30% increase per day, 38 days to go before everyone in Ireland getting it.

    Date|Total|New Cases|Percent Change
    02-Mar|1|1|100%
    03-Mar|2|1|100%
    04-Mar|6|4|200%
    05-Mar|13|7|117%
    06-Mar|18|5|38%
    07-Mar|19|1|6%
    08-Mar|21|2|11%
    09-Mar|24|3|14%
    10-Mar|34|10|42%
    11-Mar|43|9|26%
    12-Mar|70|27|63%
    13-Mar|90|20|29%
    14-Mar|129|39|43%
    15-Mar|169|40|31%
    16-Mar|223|54|32%
    17-Mar|290|67|30%
    18-Mar|377|87|30%
    19-Mar|490|113|30%
    20-Mar|637|147|30%
    21-Mar|828|191|30%
    22-Mar|1,076|248|30%
    23-Mar|1,399|323|30%
    24-Mar|1,819|420|30%
    25-Mar|2,365|546|30%
    26-Mar|3,074|709|30%
    27-Mar|3,997|922|30%
    28-Mar|5,195|1,199|30%
    29-Mar|6,754|1,559|30%
    30-Mar|8,780|2,026|30%
    31-Mar|11,414|2,634|30%
    01-Apr|14,839|3,424|30%
    02-Apr|19,290|4,452|30%
    03-Apr|25,078|5,787|30%
    04-Apr|32,601|7,523|30%
    05-Apr|42,381|9,780|30%
    06-Apr|55,095|12,714|30%
    07-Apr|71,624|16,529|30%
    08-Apr|93,111|21,487|30%
    09-Apr|121,045|27,933|30%
    10-Apr|157,358|36,313|30%
    11-Apr|204,565|47,207|30%
    12-Apr|265,935|61,370|30%
    13-Apr|345,715|79,780|30%
    14-Apr|449,430|103,715|30%
    15-Apr|584,259|134,829|30%
    16-Apr|759,537|175,278|30%
    17-Apr|987,398|227,861|30%
    18-Apr|1,283,617|296,219|30%
    19-Apr|1,668,702|385,085|30%
    20-Apr|2,169,313|500,611|30%
    21-Apr|2,820,107|650,794|30%
    22-Apr|3,666,139|846,032|30%
    23-Apr|4,765,980|1,099,842|30%
    Can spot the arrival of the Italians for the cancelled match.


  • #3706
    shoppergal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭shoppergal


    Apologies I'm sure this has been asked already but is everyone who gets this being admitted to hospital? We have 3 small kids, what if my husband and I both get it? Grandparents obviously wouldn't be able to come and mind them.


  • #3707
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Grueller Baby wrote: »
    Cabra House open in Dublin

    https://twitter.com/ChronicOG_2nd/status/1239651580443602945?s=20

    Absolute knack bags. It's going to be people with IQ's that reflect your average Dublin / Kerry football score game that will help in spreading this.


  • #3708
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,997 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Maybe they already have it. Be interesting see what happens in Wuhan.

    China seems to be lifting some restrictions and getting back to a degree of normality, it will be a few weeks before we know whether it has worked though. The virus could come back.with restrictions lifted depending on how many are now immune.


  • #3709
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    smelly sock wrote: »
    So the hospitality trade isnt essential to the economy.

    Ffs.

    Poor deflection. Irresponsible drunkards negating any notion of personal space dramatically increases risk of infection. Can you not fathom one iota why the pubs had to shut?


  • #3710
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Dwarf.Shortage wrote: »
    You're not an idiot that gets me banned, but this is certainly the kind of thing an idiot would post.

    Agreed

    So many mathematicians on here and statistical experts. A virus is unpredictable it could just slow to a crawl too. Your model fails to take into account our early lockdown measures and the results they yield.


  • #3711
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Absolute knack bags. It's going to be people with IQ's that reflect your average Dublin / Kerry football score game that will help in spreading this.

    Legally a lockdown should be declared and enforced.


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  • #3712
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,333 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    gabeeg wrote: »
    There are 7.5 billion people on this earth, and besides the people that have already had covid - ZERO people have immunity.

    That doesn't seem to be the case. If there was zero immunity, you would probably see 30m people in Italy with the virus. Why isn't that happening?


  • #3713
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    gabeeg wrote: »
    There are 7.5 billion people on this earth, and besides the people that have already had covid - ZERO people have immunity.

    Could you explain why only 20% of people on the princess cruise ship got it and only 3% of wuhan got it even though it was left completely untreated for a few months in the wuhan situation.


  • #3714
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    milhous wrote: »
    Would that be down to testing capacity though?
    It might be but they are farther down the track in terms of COVID-19 than anyone else so you'd reasonably expect to see some effect of whatever measures they've applied.


  • #3715
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Ridiculous deflection. Irresponsible drunkards negating any notion of personal space dramatically increases risk of infection. Can you not fathom one iota why the pubs had to shut?

    I agree they should be shut. So should non essential work places.


  • #3716
    Scotty #
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    shoppergal wrote: »
    Apologies I'm sure this has been asked already but is everyone who gets this being admitted to hospital? We have 3 small kids, what if my husband and I both get it? Grandparents obviously wouldn't be able to come and mind them.

    No. 80% do not require medical. For most, it's no worse than a cold.


  • #3717
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    He has a point
    Infections will continue to increase then. That's the trade off. To stop infections spreading everywhere must close. Closing pubs but leaving offices open will make zero difference to stoping soread
    nobody knows the answer or whether this thing can be stopped, but the activity that is optional needs to go first surely

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #3718
    ldy4mxonucwsq6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    Strazdas wrote: »
    We're nearly in lockdown already. I wouldn't be overly hung up on some dramatic announcement.....we're nearly there already

    I'm still out working as normal, as is my OH. I'm terrified my whole family is going to end up infected.


  • #3719
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Speak to frontline healthcare workers. We are in serious trouble. They were overwhelmed before this even started. The lads mentioned above know we are up sh1t creek and very little can be done about it

    You might as well talk to the wall. For some posters this is no more then a competition between UK and Ireland which Ireland must win, even if we’re actually losing.
    Some posters think that the Taoiseach and the tanaiste are making these decisions after considering the situation with their huge big heavy clever brains crammed full of wisdom.
    They haven’t got a clue.


  • #3720
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Ridiculous deflection. Irresponsible drunkards negating any notion of personal space dramatically increases risk of infection. Can you not fathom one iota why the pubs had to shut?

    His point is why close pubs but leave offices open. The reason pubs were asked to close is to try and stop infection. People working together can and will spread infection. Just closing pubs makes zero difference.

    Close everywhere except essential services


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  • #3721
    jill_valentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Closing pubs but leaving offices open will make zero difference to stoping soread

    Somebody has to handle payments to Medtronic. I'd guess their payroll might be outsourced. They'll have land and sea shipping companies to work through. Their IT must be furnished somehow. Etc etc etc

    Every office I know that's still open has sanitiser stations and some attempt at social distancing underway. None of that is happening in a pub.


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