CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

Jumping Davey · 16-03-2020 01:34PM

What is the process when people in a work place get infected, there is a factory which has two positive cases in Cavan and it seems to be working away like normal.

As is should there be a full deep clean and persons who work next to them self isolating?

ZX7R · 16-03-2020 01:35PM

eggy81 wrote: »

I work as an electrician currently on a very large project in clonee. We would be indoors but not necessarily in very close proximity to each other. No sign of site shut down yet. My partner is in remission for lymphoma and her mother has breast cancer. Partner went through heavy heavy treatment in second half of 2018.

For anyone with knowledge of these big sites what would you do. I'm very nervous of going back there particularly with the toilets and canteen situations. They are good by site standards but still so many people using them.

If you have a work van or travel in a car,
Take turns and have you lunch there

namloc1980 · 16-03-2020 01:35PM

Local Centra has put yellow tape down 2 meters apart at the tills to encourage social distancing.

16-03-2020 01:35PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Why is Cheltenham being singled out??

There are 70,000 people a day at Cheltenham, an outdoor event.

There are around 70,000 people an hour on the tube, an enclosed area.

Why aren't tourists who visited London getting shit???

Good old Irish begrudgery. Just being pedantic here, but the figure was closer to 60,000 each day.

Personally, I feel that shutting down the country at this stage is too late. That horse has already bolted.

Professor Moriarty · 16-03-2020 01:36PM

Deleted User wrote: »

https://twitter.com/iandonald_psych/status/1238518371651649538

Yeah but what tough decisions are the UK making and why are they better in the long term?

threeball · 16-03-2020 01:36PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Agreed !

But we are trying to limit the number of infected people in order to help our older and more fragile citizens.

Meanwhile the UK are trying to infect 60% of their population on the other side of the border, chasing this mythical 'Herd Immunity'.

Unbelievable... the virus does not respect borders.

Ba$tards !

Even if the herd immunity worked, you still need to slow the virus to give the NHS a chance to keep those that need treatment treated. But they haven't done that and I hope those that made that decisions face the consequences of it at some future date.

BLIZZARD7 · 16-03-2020 01:36PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

That's the big worry - our politicians are more worried how the proposals are going to play with the facebook morons and social media experts.

The UK are actually making the tough decisions that will benefit them longterm.

The UK are making decisions that will destroy them... not benefit them. Nazi style Eugenics.

NegativeCreep · 16-03-2020 01:36PM

eggy81 wrote: »

I work as an electrician currently on a very large project in clonee. We would be indoors but not necessarily in very close proximity to each other. No sign of site shut down yet. My partner is in remission for lymphoma and her mother has breast cancer. Partner went through heavy heavy treatment in second half of 2018.

For anyone with knowledge of these big sites what would you do. I'm very nervous of going back there particularly with the toilets and canteen situations. They are good by site standards but still so many people using them.

I assume the amazon data centre? I’d say if you mention your situation to the manager they will accommodate your need to self isolate more.

I don’t work in the same industry but I work close to there. We have split up our shifts. One week at home while the other work and then switch the next week. They might look into doing something similar?

amacca · 16-03-2020 01:36PM

pH wrote: »

The best guess would be a workable vaccine sometime early 2021, with perhaps discoveries related to current anti-viral drugs that may significantly reduce the mortality rate for at risk patients.
.

Does that best guess take into account the unprecedented levels of funding/political pressure and motivation that will pour into any trials etc that look promising

I think this is different ...... I admit I have no expertise however.

millb · 16-03-2020 01:37PM

eggy81 wrote: »

Were the biggest bunch of yes men in Europe.

The Austrian's seemed to have been in denial for a week .. Iceland's problems mainly stemmed from 1 flight - Ski resort -

https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/panorama/id_87525436/coronavirus-von-ischgl-verbreitete-sich-covid-19-in-ganz-europa.html

Question - have our travel agents communicated this / should this be flagged . Are they still tracing things back? or is it all too late?

16-03-2020 01:37PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Local Centra has put yellow tape down 2 meters apart at the tills to encourage social distancing.

Tesco ask customers to load groceries from the end of the belt and collect them from the end of the checkout, thereby allowing a meter from the checkout staff. They’ve moved the card machine as far away as possible.

16-03-2020 01:38PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Yeah but what tough decisions are the UK making and why are they better in the long term?

I think what he means is that that the UK is making a tough decision letting the virus spread but there's a good chance it works out better.

I don't agree. I think containing until there's a vaccine is better.

patnor1011 · 16-03-2020 01:38PM

Ok. Perhaps we really are overthinking it. While I applaud decission to try to help everyone who need it, it simply will not be possible. We are not ready for it and we cant get ready for it in time. We can only ease suffering for some people but definitely not for everyone.
It seems Chechen president has the most pragmatic approach as there is not much left to do anyway.

Kadyrov, the long-time head of his majority Muslim Republic, has offered his take on today's biggest issue – the coronavirus pandemic.
Arguing that the fears over the disease that manifests itself with flu-like symptoms have been blown out of proportion, Kadyrov called on the public to come to their senses and stop overthinking the problem.
“People lose sleep because a disease appeared in China: the virus," Kadyrov said, addressing a local government meeting on Saturday. "They are afraid that it comes [to them] and they’ll die. Don’t be in a rush, you’ll die anyway. Don’t try to die before your time."
The Chechen leader noted that while the rapid spread of Covid-19 has been the talk of the town, other diseases like the ordinary flu keep claiming thousands of lives every year.

As with pretty much every other serious illness, “those who are in sound health will overcome it [coronavirus], those who are not, won’t manage to,” Kadyrov said, while recommending that all those anxious about their health work on strengthening their immune system using traditional means.
“Mix lemon with honey and water and drink – then the virus won’t get you. Eat your garlic,” he noted.

kowloon · 16-03-2020 01:39PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Yeah but what tough decisions are the UK making and why are they better in the long term?

Deciding to expose the elderly and chronically ill to greater risk is a pretty tough decision.

Cupatae · 16-03-2020 01:39PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

For the last time even if they wanted to do it they don't have the numbers. It will be all be about self discipline.

Yeah but they d have to announce it wouldnt they in order for people to do it. Not about numbers, im supposed to go to work today should i just ring em and tell im im too disciplined to come in ?

Professor Moriarty · 16-03-2020 01:40PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think what he means is that that the UK is making a tough decision letting the virus spread but there's a good chance it works out better.

I don't agree. I think containing until there's a vaccine is better.

Agreed. I'd like them to explain exactly what they mean and why it will work. For me, it's simply a cull of the old, weak and poor.

16-03-2020 01:41PM

kowloon wrote: »

Deciding to expose the elderly and chronically ill to greater risk is a pretty tough decision.

The elderly And vulnerable are advised to stay indoors for up to 4 months.

Rob A. Bank · 16-03-2020 01:41PM

threeball wrote: »

Even if the herd immunity worked, you still need to slow the virus to give the NHS a chance to keep those that need treatment treated. But they haven't done that and I hope those that made that decisions face the consequences of it at some future date.

It's complete irresponsible of them !

I’m an epidemiologist. When I heard about Britain’s ‘herd immunity’ coronavirus plan, I thought it was satire !

Dr William Hanage is a professor of the evolution and epidemiology of infectious disease at Harvard

deisedevil · 16-03-2020 01:41PM

patnor1011 wrote: »

Ok. Perhaps we really are overthinking it. While I applaud decission to try to help everyone who need it, it simply will not be possible. We are not ready for it and we cant get ready for it in time. We can only ease suffering for some people but definitely not for everyone.
It seems Chechen president has the most pragmatic approach as there is not much left to do anyway.

Kadyrov, the long-time head of his majority Muslim Republic, has offered his take on today's biggest issue – the coronavirus pandemic.
Arguing that the fears over the disease that manifests itself with flu-like symptoms have been blown out of proportion, Kadyrov called on the public to come to their senses and stop overthinking the problem.
“People lose sleep because a disease appeared in China: the virus," Kadyrov said, addressing a local government meeting on Saturday. "They are afraid that it comes [to them] and they’ll die. Don’t be in a rush, you’ll die anyway. Don’t try to die before your time."
The Chechen leader noted that while the rapid spread of Covid-19 has been the talk of the town, other diseases like the ordinary flu keep claiming thousands of lives every year.

As with pretty much every other serious illness, “those who are in sound health will overcome it [coronavirus], those who are not, won’t manage to,” Kadyrov said, while recommending that all those anxious about their health work on strengthening their immune system using traditional means.
“Mix lemon with honey and water and drink – then the virus won’t get you. Eat your garlic,” he noted.

Quick, get in touch with Leo and the CMO!

Professor Moriarty · 16-03-2020 01:41PM

kowloon wrote: »

Deciding to expose the elderly and chronically ill to greater risk is a pretty tough decision.

It is. It's also wrong in so many ways, that it's indefensible.

begbysback · 16-03-2020 01:41PM

Red for Danger wrote: »

About food

Its fine saying supply lines are good but people are going to be stocking up so they will not have to leave home for the worst 10/15 days.
This worst 10/15 day period may not start until another 10/15 days??? So a family of 5 are gonna need a lot of grub to be sure to get through the worst period. Also families are only now realising how much the actually eat when everyone is home for every meal...

Do you actually realise how much food is thrown away each day in developed countries?

There was a guy on UK tv the other day asking why people where clearing the shelves of toilet rolls, UK are the second biggest exporters of toilet roll in the world.

A lot of the supply fears are completely irrational, at worse people may have to go without some luxury items which become difficult to import.

threeball · 16-03-2020 01:41PM

patnor1011 wrote: »

Ok. Perhaps we really are overthinking it. While I applaud decission to try to help everyone who need it, it simply will not be possible. We are not ready for it and we cant get ready for it in time. We can only ease suffering for some people but definitely not for everyone.
It seems Chechen president has the most pragmatic approach as there is not much left to do anyway.

Kadyrov, the long-time head of his majority Muslim Republic, has offered his take on today's biggest issue – the coronavirus pandemic.
Arguing that the fears over the disease that manifests itself with flu-like symptoms have been blown out of proportion, Kadyrov called on the public to come to their senses and stop overthinking the problem.
“People lose sleep because a disease appeared in China: the virus," Kadyrov said, addressing a local government meeting on Saturday. "They are afraid that it comes [to them] and they’ll die. Don’t be in a rush, you’ll die anyway. Don’t try to die before your time."
The Chechen leader noted that while the rapid spread of Covid-19 has been the talk of the town, other diseases like the ordinary flu keep claiming thousands of lives every year.

As with pretty much every other serious illness, “those who are in sound health will overcome it [coronavirus], those who are not, won’t manage to,” Kadyrov said, while recommending that all those anxious about their health work on strengthening their immune system using traditional means.
“Mix lemon with honey and water and drink – then the virus won’t get you. Eat your garlic,” he noted.

Is he advising Boris too?

Strazdas · 16-03-2020 01:42PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think what he means is that that the UK is making a tough decision letting the virus spread but there's a good chance it works out better.

I don't agree. I think containing until there's a vaccine is better.

Many scientists are saying they are deeply alarmed at what the UK is proposing and say they cannot understand why Britain is going down this route.

spookwoman · 16-03-2020 01:42PM

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scamalert · 16-03-2020 01:42PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

What decisions and how will they benefit the UK in the long term?

uk will have proper staticstics not skewed by stupid measures put in place, they will have numbers and profiles for those infected and more so those that had it severe, given chances it wont go away anytime soon, heard immunity isnt bad, if mass population has it and several dozen do get complicated or dead, its not mass extiction, just will prove how it compares to other viruses.

where irelands approach is useless since cant quarantine and close shops, factories forever, thus eventually everyone will have to return and with no immunity it will be rinse and repeat cycles, that will drive economy into ground.

jobeenfitz · 16-03-2020 01:43PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Good old Irish begrudgery. Just being pedantic here, but the figure was closer to 60,000 each day.

Personally, I feel that shutting down the country at this stage is too late. That horse has already bolted.

"I feel". Shur that's it so!

Professor Moriarty · 16-03-2020 01:44PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The elderly And vulnerable are advised to stay indoors for up to 4 months.

Not by the UK government yet. That advice will be issued "over the next few weeks".

patnor1011 · 16-03-2020 01:44PM

threeball wrote: »

Even if the herd immunity worked, you still need to slow the virus to give the NHS a chance to keep those that need treatment treated. But they haven't done that and I hope those that made that decisions face the consequences of it at some future date.

Problem is no matter what they do there is no slowing down with this virus. Chinese tried it right from the start with army on the street and with full might of a police state. It is not working and we simply do not have capacity to deal with it. Neither does any other country. There are waiting lists for every medical procedure and with this virus added to what was overwhelmed medical industry even before this virus emerged future do not look good anyway.

So while it is popular here to bash UK and Boris they at least did not bombed their economy.

Rob A. Bank · 16-03-2020 01:44PM

scamalert wrote: »

uk will have proper staticstics not skewed by stupid measures put in place, they will have numbers and profiles for those infected and more so those that had it severe, given chances it wont go away anytime soon, heard immunity isnt bad, if mass population has it and several dozen do get complicated or dead, its not mass extiction, just will prove how it compares to other viruses.

where irelands approach is useless since cant quarantine and close shops, factories forever, thus eventually everyone will have to return and with no immunity it will be rinse and repeat cycles, that will drive economy into ground.

YUCK !

16-03-2020 01:45PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Many scientists are saying they are deeply alarmed at what the UK is proposing and say they cannot understand why Britain is going down this route.

I am assuming it will really impact international travel from the UK, and it's really bad for Ireland.

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