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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) *Read OP*

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  • #8222
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    lostpas5235 wrote: »
    Source on the number of strains?


    https://nextstrain.org/


  • #8223
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lord Trollington wrote: »
    We've a second house in the country side in Northern Ireland.

    I toyed with the idea of bringing the family up there until this is over as it's more secluded and the kids have much more room to play outside - we live in Dublin.

    What's people thoughts on this? Would I be mad to leave this jurisdiction in case I can't get back in. Or if I didnt get it up there somehow - would it be an issue getting treatment if needed.

    What's your opinions folks ?

    The border wont be closed (part me suspects brits are trying to.force ireland in brexit negociations)

    Conspiracy outta the way....if your living in city and house in the north is rural and can afford to be away for upto 6 weeks....seems a complete no brainer


  • #8224
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    Brynn Delicious Cafeteria wrote: »
    Extreme controls for several months a la China.

    Would need to be a concerted global effort though to stamp it out completely.

    We are vulnerable given the current UK approach and shared border.

    Otherwise we learn to live (or not) with it.

    It's ability to survive and spread readily in hot countries means we probably won't have the benefit of a die off from the virus like other seasonal infections.
    Bleak.
    This is quiet an eye opener on the doomsday scenario we are facing


  • #8225
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    dan786 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1239276993931247622?s=20

    No wonder countries closing borders.

    France and Germany. Over 1,600 new cases in Germany alone today. 6 new deaths there.


  • #8226
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,768 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Rubbish, there may be a lockdown coming, it may even happen tomorrow but that whatsapp message is fvcking steaming hot garbage
    I didn't hear it on what's app but I suppose the only way to know is it true or not is wait until 11am.


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  • #8227
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Brynn Delicious Cafeteria wrote: »
    Extreme controls for several months a la China.

    Would need to be a concerted global effort though to stamp it out completely.

    We are vulnerable given the current UK approach and shared border.

    Otherwise we learn to live (or not) with it.

    It's ability to survive and spread readily in hot countries means we probably won't have the benefit of a die off from the virus like other seasonal infections.

    Agree with everything you said. Just to add UK looks to be rolling back on "herd stupidity". Seems they've go straight to stage 4.

    "‘Herd immunity’ is not our policy, says UK’s health secretary"


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/herd-immunity-is-not-our-policy-says-uk-s-health-secretary-1.4203637


  • #8228
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    https://nextstrain.org/

    map of spread is very good

    https://nextstrain.org/ncov?dmax=2019-12-16&dmin=2019-12-07


  • #8229
    BarryD2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    threeball wrote: »
    I do however think that allowing flights unhindered is a mistake.

    Had to allow Irish people to return home from holidays but big mistake to not even ask them to take a couple of weeks off and see if they developed any symptoms at home.

    Fairly shocking rise of deaths in Italy in last 24 hrs.


  • #8230
    1641
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭1641


    Brynn Delicious Cafeteria wrote: »
    It is not the flu, its is not an influenza virus, there will be no vaccine nor immunity.

    The Spanish flu is not the seasonal flu.

    If anything this pandemic is showing the pure thick ignorance of some people.

    All of the information on this is available online, anyone who had their head up their hole for the past two months should go educate themselves.




    Very OTT.

    Sure we are talking about a coronavirus and not a Flu. But both are virus resulting in a global pandemic. What we do not know is whether or not it will act like the Spanish Flu by reappearing in a number of successive waves. The eventual outcome will depend on this. If it comes in waves, will populations exposed in the first wave have any immunity in the second wave? It is not ignorant to consider this. The third wave of the Spanish Flu in Ireland had relatively mild impact in areas that had been severely impacted in earlier waves, but it struck harshly in areas (the west) that had been largely spared previously.

    The Spanish Flu was a H1N1 variant, a subtype of Influena A. Variants of Influena A are common in seasonal Flu (but we know Covid-19 is not a Flu, OK?).
    And as to a vaccine - we do not know if one will be successfully developed. AFAIK there was no vaccine developed for SARS, another coronavirus.


  • #8231
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,367 ✭✭✭paul71


    ITman88 wrote: »
    Well that’s bleak. If that’s the case what will a lockdown for 2 weeks achieve?

    It has been said numerous times, slow the rate of spread to a level that health services can hopefully cope with.


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  • #8232
    dickdonk14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 ✭dickdonk14


    greenfield21 wrote: »
    What?? And he won't have to isolate living in Ireland??

    Its more the fact he is a widower so left on his own. He doesn't do internet. He loves them company of other people. I honestly think the solitude will finish him.


  • #8233
    Lord Trollington
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The border wont be closed (part me suspects brits are trying to.force ireland in brexit negociations)

    Conspiracy outta the way....if your living in city and house in the north is rural and can afford to be away for upto 6 weeks....seems a complete no brainer

    To be honest a week ago, a lockdown or completely closing down of various systems in Ireland never crossed my mind. Now I'm beginning to think that anything is possible . Locking down the border is in the back of my mind as is a whole host of other doomsday scenarios .

    I'm struggling to think straight its moving that fast .


  • #8234
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Irish citizens being told to come home from Spain before Thursday

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #8235
    elperello
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,982 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Juts received this from the caretaker of my apt complex (200 apartments)
    It's a group where only he and apt management can send messages.



    I mean? WTF like.


    Bins and rubbish services will be one of the necessary services IF there is a full 'lockdown'
    There's no social contact required to collect a bloody bin or tagged bag.
    He's a sound guy but this is just panicky made up bullsh1te 101 (never mind his spelling)

    Relax he's just a caretaker trying to get all the tenants to get rid of as much of their waste as possible tomorrow.

    It's above his pay grade to know if waste services will be suspended.


  • #8236
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    glack wrote: »
    Gloves aren’t hugely effective for the general public. The danger from your hands is not your hands themselves touching the virus, but more you then touch your face with those germ covered hands. That risk still exists when you wear gloves. They give a false sense of security. Regular hand washing and keeping your hands from your face is the key!!

    I put the disposable gloves on before getting out of the car and took them off after returning the trolley having placed the groceries in the car

    Also managed not to touch my face during the shopping exercise


  • #8237
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    This is A1"herd stupidity". Why stop there? Seen as though viruses can't be stopped smallpox should be released to really sort out the herd.

    You need to educate yourself on viruses a little more.
    There are many types of viruses and what works with some do not work with others.
    I agree that herd stupidity is quite prevalent here.


  • #8238
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    cannotlogin wrote: »
    Need to start giving Simon Harris some credit. He cancelled the Irish v Italy rugby game at a time when it was considered premature and unpopular by many.

    It should be made very clear to every publican now that any lock in, however small, means their license will be automatically cancelled and they never can apply for another one.

    Also anyone found on a licensed premises who is in receipt of the emergency job seekers should have it stopped immediately and anyone working should be severely fined.

    Time to get real.

    Funniest post yet, bravo.


  • #8239
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,750 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Agree with everything you said. Just to add UK looks to be rolling back on "herd stupidity". Seems they've go straight to stage 4.

    "‘Herd immunity’ is not our policy, says UK’s health secretary"


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/herd-immunity-is-not-our-policy-says-uk-s-health-secretary-1.4203637

    Not much has changed with that lot. Tell you to your face that they never said what they are on record as saying last week.


  • #8240
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    New York City mayor considering complete shutdown of New York saying everything is on the table.


  • #8241
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Hobgoblin11 wrote: »
    Irish citizens being told to come home from Spain before Thursday

    Airport will be closed Thursday.


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  • #8242
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Genghis wrote: »
    Absolutely ridiculous. Is the sender prone to drama?
    No!
    It's out of the blue, messages are usually straightforward businesslike.


  • #8243
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,409 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Airport will be closed Thursday.
    For all flights?!
    Italy and spain would be a good start...


  • #8244
    blackcard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,318 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    This was discussed weeks ago.

    For those of a religious faith that die, mass (as in collective, not Catholic) funerals will be held where rites will be administered. Either a tiny number or no mourners will be allowed attend. The remains will then be taken for collective cremation and no ashes will be returned to relatives.

    Incidentally, this will affect anyone who dies from whatever cause during this crisis. Burials will effectively stop.

    Is this correct? I thought that there will be restrictions on the number of people attending a funeral but burials to go ahead as normal


  • #8245
    TheCitizen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Airport will be closed Thursday.

    What airport will be closed on thursday?


  • #8246
    Syncpolice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    lawred2 wrote: »
    GPs are part of the problem. Happily sending people into ED in exchange for 60quid and an easy life.

    Yep

    Got sent in with a gp letter over nothing

    Was 5pm gp in a rush home

    Nurse wanted to know what I was doing there


  • #8247
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,091 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Do hotel bars close also even for residents?
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #8248
    Class MayDresser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭Class MayDresser


    Hobgoblin11 wrote: »
    Irish citizens being told to come home from Spain before Thursday

    Know of a few willingly staying there, their attitude is we can't do anything or see family either place. Good call imo.


  • #8249
    SeaBreezes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    Deleted User wrote: »
    No. You are wrong. It has one part of its structure that is similar to a part of the HIV genome.
    .

    Exactly.

    Nope wasn't going to mention any Drugs, your the fantasist pharmacist.. On the frontline..

    Surprised you have time to be on boards at all with so much to do..


  • #8250
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    paul71 wrote: »
    It has been said numerous times, slow the rate of spread to a level that health services can hopefully cope with.

    Yes but if you read the rest of the post I replied to, with no immunity or vaccine the rest of our lives will be a cycle of lockdown after lockdown until we eventually pass on.
    If that’s the case would survival of the fittest not be the best policy


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  • #8251
    dan786
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭dan786


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Airport will be closed Thursday.

    No, the reason is that the Spanish government has committed to keeping its airports open until midnight on Thursday and will facilitate flights coming from Ireland to take holidaymakers home.

    Nothing to do with Irish airports.


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