CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP

FutureGuy · 15-03-2020 08:55PM

Two limerick pubs just closed their doors. Well done.

At least one of them are letting in people via the back door.

Spanish Eyes · 15-03-2020 08:55PM

Glad to see the Healy Raes complying.

VinLieger · 15-03-2020 08:56PM

robinph wrote: »

So is it a good thing or a bad thing to be telling over 70's to totally isolate from the potentially infected rest of the population?

Its a good thing but the idea that doing nothing else besides that will not ovewhelm the NHS is idiotic

blade1 · 15-03-2020 08:56PM

Can't keep up with posts here so not sure what's been posted already.
Hearing full lockdown will be announced at 11am tomorrow.
Rubbish or what?

froog · 15-03-2020 08:56PM

is there any good article on the very low death rates in china outside of epicentre? or is the thinking that those numbers are pure bull****.

Akrasia · 15-03-2020 08:56PM

sonofenoch wrote: »

Do these lockdowns work or just kick the can down the road? is this not going away readily?..........like any other pandemic strains of flu (it's what it is) the only combat is vaccine and build up of immunity, the latter you only get by it's spread not hiding behind closed doors ................the reality we have to face is that some people are going to die from it, it's tragic and not avoidable .............the Spanish flu killed 60m people and is now what we call a seasonal flu

We know some people are going to die, Some people have already died, lots of people have already died

The benefits of delaying infections as long as possible are
1. It spreads out the rate of infection reducing the stress on the health service
2. It gives the pharmaceutical industry time to test treatments and ramp up production of these treatments such as IL-6 inhibitors
3. It gives researchers time to understand which treatments work the best and what drugs to avoid (eg NSAIDS)

The UK's lack of action in spite of overwhelming evidence that action is required is appalling an it will cost a lot of people their lives needlessly

They're not even going to test care workers who show symptoms of the disease. This is incredibly short sighted and Will Cost Lives!

When Trump came to power I was always worried about how he would react to the first proper crisis he faces. So far he is failing miserably, and Johnson is emulating him in how incompetent his reaction to this crisis is.

ITman88 · 15-03-2020 08:56PM

TheCitizen wrote: »

We do know what the best approach is, that's the whole point. The Chinese have shown the way and most of the rest of the world accept that and are trying to copy what they did because it works.

The Brits appear to be the only ones with stupid ideas of their own. Get your head out of the sand and wake up.

Ok I see your point I’m quiet open minded regarding this thing.

My point is, why exactly is the Chinese approach correct? Lots of people said earlier on the Chinese can’t be believed on numbers of infections, and even if they can, until they lift the restrictions, and then have no more cases of the virus, can we say that approach has worked.

This is a long road ahead, and we need a calm measured approach, and none of us can say which approach is best.

If Wuhan has eradicated this with the lockdown it’s fantastic news, and thats the approach to take now and for future pandemic’s. We won’t know until some time in the future has that approach worked.

owlbethere · 15-03-2020 08:56PM

This time last week, we saw very little from our government in relation to this virus. Within a week we've seen:

Parades cancelled
Schools, colleges, crèches closed
Social distancing guidelines
Pubs closed

I feel a little bit more confident in our government now that they've taken their heads out from the sand and acting on reducing the spread of this disease.

Unknown Soldier · 15-03-2020 08:57PM

EDit wrote: »

Massive overkill IMO. Someone is cycling on their own Down an empty street, so a couple of cops crowd around him thereby increasing the possibility of the virus spreading if they or he has it.

Lowest common denominator stuff. Best to just say "no", rather than "no....but"

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

I'd say a lot will close over the next week or so with the country more or less in lockdown by the weekend. Bit by bit everything is about to shut! Extraordinary times and to think before this we would panic over a red alert storm for 24hours. Surreal is the new normal. The whole thing would have made a great film but I guess movie directors wouldn't have thought it believable!

I'm guessing we will all be told to stay at home from tomorrow afternoon onward. Being told while people are at work, gives those places a chance to shut down properly. Someone has to empty the fridges.

CinemaGuy45 · 15-03-2020 08:57PM

blade1 wrote: »

Can't keep up with posts here so not sure what's been posted already.
Hearing full lockdown will be announced at 11am tomorrow.
Rubbish or what?

No idea until confirmed assume it is rubbish.

saabsaab · 15-03-2020 08:57PM

Hopefully not too bleak a question but what is the burial/cremation capacity per month in Ireland? Anyone have an idea?

gmisk · 15-03-2020 08:57PM

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

The brits really are on their own here with little regard for proper measures other than disgracefully single out over 70s for isolation. Propped up of course by their right hand woman in NI

My folks are late 60s (ironically my mother still does clinics for the NHS despite being retired) and based in N Ireland, they are reasonably healthy thankfully.
People in the north seemingly a bit bemused about decision not to close schools, my sister is a teacher up there as well, some schools choosing to close of their own bat.

youtube! · 15-03-2020 08:57PM

Brynn Delicious Cafeteria wrote: »

Similar to SARS it could be done through interrupting all human-to-human transmission until the virus no longer has hosts and dies out on its own.

Problems are the mild symptoms while infectious and the apparent higher transmission rates for Coronavirus.

Very difficult to deprive the virus of a host because of this.

Any country that is cleared could be easily reinfected unless there are extreme controls.

There is no quick fix for this.

So what can be done then?

VinLieger · 15-03-2020 08:57PM

blade1 wrote: »

Can't keep up with posts here so not sure what's been posted already.
Hearing full lockdown will be announced at 11am tomorrow.
Rubbish or what?

Rubbish, there may be a lockdown coming, it may even happen tomorrow but that whatsapp message is fvcking steaming hot garbage

05eaftqbrs9jlh · 15-03-2020 08:57PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

There’ll be no immunity? Flu isn’t the only thing people gain immunity to.

A vaccine is also likely to happen.

There is no known immunity.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/coronavirus-immunity-reinfection-get-covid-19-twice-sick-spread-relapse-a9400691.html%3famp

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwil7YD5oJ3oAhW2SRUIHd7CCdAQFjAGegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw1gO_RTfaIWQuEkjdvq_O7i&cshid=1584302052930

We have never managed to develop a vaccine for a coronavirus before. Scientists came close once, and a lot of people are working currently, but it's going to be a very very long time before one comes on the market, if it does at all.
https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwil7YD5oJ3oAhW2SRUIHd7CCdAQFjAGegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw1gO_RTfaIWQuEkjdvq_O7i&cshid=1584302052930

Professor Moriarty · 15-03-2020 08:57PM

dan786 wrote: »

The HSE says that a fake news circular is going around social media, citing an unnamed "specialist" at Cork University Hospital, advising people not to use non steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs like ibuprofen & difene, and claiming that it exacerbates Covid-19.

It suggests physiotherapy as an alternative.

The HSE says it is untrue and has been refuted by infectious disease doctors in Ireland and the hospital also.

The HSE says the general consensus is that there is no data to support this contention at present.

Yesterday, the French Health Minister said Coronavirus patients should not take anti-inflammatories as they diminish the immune system.

odyssey06 · 15-03-2020 08:58PM

dan786 wrote: »

The HSE says that a fake news circular is going around social media, citing an unnamed "specialist" at Cork University Hospital, advising people not to use non steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs like ibuprofen & difene, and claiming that it exacerbates Covid-19.

It suggests physiotherapy as an alternative.

The HSE says it is untrue and has been refuted by infectious disease doctors in Ireland and the hospital also.

The HSE says the general consensus is that there is no data to support this contention at present.

Was the alert from the French ministry of health fake news also?
France's health minister Olivier Véran warned the public on Saturday that anti-inflammatories like ibuprofen and cortisone could be an aggravating factor in coronavirus infections.
https://www.thelocal.fr/20200314/coronavirus-french-health-minister-issues-warning-over-anti-flammatories

bilston · 15-03-2020 08:58PM

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

The brits really are on their own here with little regard for proper measures other than disgracefully single out over 70s for isolation. Propped up of course by their right hand woman in NI

Hang on...on the one hand they are accused in doing nothing, and then when they come up with a plan to actually protect the most vulnerable (not schoolkids) they get criticised.

Shn99 · 15-03-2020 08:59PM

Supermacs offering all emergency service personell free meals/drinks in their restaurants to show appreciation for their hard work

GiveawayReborn · 15-03-2020 08:59PM

On a side note, The HSE trolley watch figures show only 18 people on trolley's today compared to over 350 last week and 179 this day last year. I see reports of ED departments being very quiet. Just show the abuse of the system previously and it has taken something as serious as COVID19(or the fear of COVID19) to change behaviour

Larbre34 · 15-03-2020 08:59PM

threeball wrote: »

They'll have to open new graveyards for the holes they'll be digging. To jump from 20 deaths to 34 in one day is a dramatic jump for a country that has introduced precisely zero measures and are on the news asking companies to repurpose and build ventilators. Surely they should approach the appropriate companies instead of appealing to Fred in a shed.

This was discussed weeks ago.

For those of a religious faith that die, mass (as in collective, not Catholic) funerals will be held where rites will be administered. Either a tiny number or no mourners will be allowed attend. The remains will then be taken for collective cremation and no ashes will be returned to relatives.

Incidentally, this will affect anyone who dies from whatever cause during this crisis. Burials will effectively stop.

SeaBreezes · 15-03-2020 08:59PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Well, Seabreezes, you are the poster who said covid-19 was a combo of SARS and HIV. Any accusation you received of scaremongering because of that was well-deserved.

And satisfying? This isn’t a game. I’m one of the immunocompromised people. From my position, any kind of glee and points-scoring looks utterly pathetic. Because it is.

I linked to the medical articles in question, if you didn't bother to read them that's on you. It is This viruses HIV properties that makes it more infectious than the original SARS... It is SARS with HIV properties.. And we are still learning..

Gooey Looey · 15-03-2020 08:59PM

Bill Gates predicted this years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI

citysights · 15-03-2020 09:00PM

dan786 wrote: »

The HSE says that a fake news circular is going around social media, citing an unnamed "specialist" at Cork University Hospital, advising people not to use non steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs like ibuprofen & difene, and claiming that it exacerbates Covid-19.

It suggests physiotherapy as an alternative.

The HSE says it is untrue and has been refuted by infectious disease doctors in Ireland and the hospital also.

The HSE says the general consensus is that there is no data to support this contention at present.

Have you any link to that I’m not saying I don’t believe you but just had someone telling me the same.

dan786 · 15-03-2020 09:00PM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1239278638295588864?s=20

dickdonk14 · 15-03-2020 09:00PM

robinph wrote: »

So is it a good thing or a bad thing to be telling over 70's to totally isolate from the potentially infected rest of the population?

I think its a bad thing. I tried to get him to live with us . But he said if hes going to die he wants to die in his own bed.

Shefwedfan · 15-03-2020 09:00PM

I personally think people should get fined for spreading bullsh**t on social media

Had some clown on the local community one today saying dogs can carry it and not to go near them

When pointed out this was incorrect and links to data he blankly refused and said he knew they could

These types of clowns need to be shut up because some people will believe

dan786 · 15-03-2020 09:01PM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1239276993931247622?s=20

Atlantic Dawn · 15-03-2020 09:01PM

GiveawayReborn wrote: »

On a side note, The HSE trolley watch figures show only 18 people on trolley's today compared to over 350 last week and 179 this day last year. I see reports of ED departments being very quiet. Just show the abuse of the system previously and it has taken something as serious as COVID19(or the fear of COVID19) to change behaviour

Yes those with paper clip lacerations are now staying at home. Was wondering how the trolleys were coping, it was 600 odd waiting a couple weeks back.

caveat emptor · 15-03-2020 09:01PM

saabsaab wrote: »

Hopefully not too bleak a question but what is the burial/cremation capacity per month in Ireland? Anyone have an idea?

Bleak but good question. Most countries struggling with this aspect of the pandemic.

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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP