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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Not sure what your thanking the government for as they were way to slow to react. They should have cancelled the election back in February when this was starting to take off. They continued to let flights in from Italy when it declared a state of emergency. I don't see any reason to thank or applaud them right now. I do however hope they start to come good but I am not seeing that over the last few days.

    No they shouldn’t, you are wrong. Don’t remember seeing you around in these threads when we were all keeping a watchful eye on this as far back as January and wanted our government to start communicating with its people on it.

    Some mistakes have been made but I’m not sure many countries can say they have dealt with this outbreak in a stellar fashion. Since last week our authories and the people running things have been excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,630 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Still only a tub of butter in my fridge.

    Kind of proud of that.




    At least that's one thing that won't spread...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Ellie2008


    Opinions is buying stuff online good or bad? So it keeps the economy going but presumably puts delivery drivers, postmen etc & they people they interact with at risk?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭rovers_runner



    Anyone else feel like this song will become fairly apt over the next month.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    From the Guardian feed @9.05
    German newspaper Welt am Sonntag has reported that US president Donald Trump has sought exclusive rights to a vaccine for the coronavirus which is being developed by a German-based company, CureVac.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭dan786


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    rogieop wrote: »
    Do you realise how many border crossings we have? impossible to do.

    I don’t agree
    Countries like Czech Republic and Slovakia are doing it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,957 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    There is a lot of talk of a status red lockdown on tuesday. Do people think this is true or just bs.

    I hate fear mongering and sensationalism, but we had a public health nurse at our house on thursday (3 week old newborn), and she said they're preparing for this. Now it could be it meant what Leo announced on Thursday, but sounded more a full lockdown. No timelines or anything, and was said it was being planned for, so may not come about, just wouldn't be surprised myself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,275 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Drumpot wrote: »
    No they shouldn’t, you are wrong. Don’t remember seeing you around in these threads when we were all keeping a watchful eye on this and wanted our government to start communicating with its people on it.

    Some mistakes have been made but I’m not sure many countries can say they have dealt with this outbreak in a stellar fashion. Since last week our authories and the people running things have been excellent.

    Nonetheless, so far we are sustaining higher case rates than the UK, per capita (we're at 26/million, they're at 17). We were level for a while, but the gap is widening, which is a concern.

    It remains to be seen over the next few days whether they pull "ahead".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,630 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Ellie2008 wrote: »
    Opinions is buying stuff online good or bad? So it keeps the economy going but presumably puts delivery drivers, postmen etc & they people they interact with at risk?

    Plus you might not get it for quite a while


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    Bulk buying by folk who dont want to go near a shop for weeks, bulk buying has been going on for weeks.

    Anyone who has been following this since the start will have been gradually making preparations, this is a slower burner so we've had plenty of time to get ready.

    It's like the other 99% of people just woke up last week and realised what's happening and had absolute panic.

    I've been telling my circle of family and friends to get ready since January and while they joked about it they did take the advice and we're all as prepared as possible.

    I am not afraid of the virus at this stage, I am afraid of what it will do to our people, society and economy.

    Law and order will break down in some places, that's pretty terrifying. Some of us will not come out of this in a good place emotionally, mentally, psychologically.

    People will lose their lives, loved ones, jobs and businesses.

    Many people still have their head in the sand and think its going to be grand (see pub goers etc). They haven't yet taken the blinkers off and had a look around at what's happening to our world as we know it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    If flights are going to be grounded soon / airlines go bust, how are many products going to be delivered for shops etc...?

    China and Italy may have done best because the external economics were still business as usual, but if there's pretty much a global lockdown?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Talisman


    All of these other things you mention are illegal. A Thief a criminal etc. Hard to enforce though but condemned. Not exactly sure of the Chinese's official opinion on food market's. Or wiping out sea creatures for fictional medicines but I doubt all these rotten practices are branded illegal .now refrain from the racist talk. Thanks and goodbye I'm off to work
    Wet markets are very different to regular food markets. The wet markets were banned in China in response to the SARS outbreak in 2003. In Wuhan, corrupt officials turned a blind eye to the practise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,420 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Bojo dithering about mass gatherings as the biggest mass gatherer in the UK - Football shut itself down last week.

    When muli billion pound industry is acting more responsible then governance then you know your fúcked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I don’t agree
    Countries like Czech Republic and Slovakia are doing it
    Most EU countries would see a lot more cross-border movement than us and it's their call. It may be in our plans but there's a way to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    gozunda wrote: »
    Not a hope in hell can the UK stop their health service getting 'overwhelmed' - where they let the infection pass uncontrolled through the entire population.

    'Sound' it is not for sure.

    Ostriches and idiots come to mind amongst other things.

    From what I’ve been reading it’s not a question of letting it pass uncontrolled. I understood that the UK approach is a question of timing, when to shut things down for maximum benefit, given that a shutdown is temporary. I think it’s a more realistic, perhaps fatalistic approach, to acknowledge that there is only a limited time frame that you can lock down a country before you start to cause economic disaster, mental health disaster and law and order problems. Are people forgetting that ALL this is about is slowing down and spreading out cases so that hospitals can cope. There is no stopping this now. You can isolate us all for months, destroying countless lives in the process - but the virus will still be here. Most of us are going to have to get it eventually. it’s only a question of when, and will there be a hospital bed available if needed. The smug ‘we know better than you’ attitude is annoying - can anyone predict the damage this shutdown is going to cause?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭rogieop


    Anyone who thinks we wont go into full lockdown at some stage soon has their head in the sand.

    Trips to shop/supermarket and pharmacies will be all that is allowed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    Anyone who has been following this since the start will have been gradually making preparations, this is a slower burner so we've had plenty of time to get ready.

    It's like the other 99% of people just woke up last week and realised what's happening and had absolute panic.

    I've been telling my circle of family and friends to get ready since January and while they joked about it they did take the advice and we're all as prepared as possible.

    I am not afraid of the virus at this stage, I am afraid of what it will do to our people, society and economy.

    Law and order will break down in some places, that's pretty terrifying. Some of us will not come out of this in a good place emotionally, mentally, psychologically.

    People will lose their lives, loved ones, jobs and businesses.

    Many people still have their head in the sand and think its going to be grand (see pub goers etc). They haven't yet taken the blinkers off and had a look around at what's happening to our world as we know it.

    Virus affects the brain in the early stages


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    There is a lot of talk of a status red lockdown on tuesday. Do people think this is true or just bs.

    What is a code Red ??? I haven't seen a coloured scale of escalated plan actions published yet. Are people just making stuff up?*

    I have no doubt further restrictions will be introduced and in fact I think they are overdue and I would welcome more direction and compliance. But talk of 'code red' without any form of reference is scaremongering. Whenever additional restrictions are introduced they won't communicate with us in terms taken from a Stephen King novel

    Personally I think we should go to Yellow Alert first.

    * on the intenet?, surely not?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭TheQuietBeatle


    All Nappies, 0-6 months baby formula all gone in every supermarket in town yesterday

    I pity the people who are left without and the stress of it

    That's pretty lousy but can see why those panicked would stock up for a baby that young.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,824 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51895873

    Isolate over 70s in UK within weeks

    The UK response is looking more and more sensible as the days pass.

    Isolate the over 70-'s and get the herd immunisation up in the general population with the minimum negative effect on the economy.

    We may well be looking at their politicians and health expects with envy in 6-12 months time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Lumen wrote: »
    Nonetheless, so far we are sustaining higher case rates than the UK, per capita (we're at 26/million, they're at 17). We were level for a while, but the gap is widening, which is a concern.

    It remains to be seen over the next few days whether they pull "ahead".

    Yeh, hopefully they fact we are actually doing something now will help change that....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Achasanai


    NIMAN wrote: »

    There is already talk of a red shutdown this coming week. It is coming from social media. All it needs is one person to start it, and ironically enough, it spread on SM like a virus!


    ...

    A big shutdown is coming, make no mistake about it. Would it be this week? We'll have to wait and see.


    I'm not sure if you're being ironic or not with that last sentence. Is your problem with people predicting a lockdown this week only or at some point (as you're doing yourself).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    If NI don’t lockdown with us we should get the Army to close the border. Give 24 hours notice then just close it. Happening all over Europe.

    100% agreed in theory. But do we have the capability to effectively seal the border in practice? (I don’t have a definite answer but I tend to think it wouldn’t work very well, especially since our army and police forces will likely be dragged into other issues related to the virus and quite possibly have their ressources stretched).

    So hopefully NI authorities have the power (does someone know what authority they have on these matters?) and the will to go along with us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,275 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Boggles wrote: »
    Bojo dithering about mass gatherings as the biggest mass gatherer in the UK - Football shut itself down last week.

    When muli billion pound industry is acting more responsible then governance then you know your fúcked.

    Perhaps not. It demonstrates that the "safety first" aspect of modern culture, which many people find irritating and overbearing, has permeated deeply within non-state instutions and is a positive asset in such a crisis.

    Haven't seen many "political correctness gone mad" comments recently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Axfrderr


    Am already an auld wan so doesn't matter to me...:D

    I sang that years ago and meant it, now I sing it a little less vigorously and sometimes even sitting down... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭Field east


    Denis O'Brien will save us.

    Given that there will be as near to 100% negative corrrolation as does not matter between bed oppucancy re hotels/hostels and the presence of the virus, it gives the hotel owners a unique opportunity to make their premises available to the HSE - on a reasonable commercial basis.
    Also , those with ‘excess assets’ eg Desmond, Mc Manus, Magnier, Ronan , Naughton and a number of others could step up to the plate and help out in some way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,746 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    The UK response is looking more and more sensible as the days pass.

    Isolate the over 70-'s and get the herd immunisation up in the general population with the minimum negative effect on the economy.

    We may well be looking at their politicians and health expects with envy in 6-12 months time.

    Herd immunisation isn't a thing without vaccination.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    There is a lot of talk of a status red lockdown on tuesday. Do people think this is true or just bs.
    On Twitter? Is this like the Army thing from last week? It doesn't sound like it is coming as they've made no reference to it. The school measure was expected but the timing was maybe not for some people.


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