CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP

jackboy · 14-03-2020 08:03PM

gmisk wrote: »

The two things are in no way the same but I think you know that.
People need public transport if they have to work, reach a shop to get their groceries, visit doctors etc.
Someone does not have to go to the pub, it is a choice.

The virus does not care if it is a choice or not.

is_that_so · 14-03-2020 08:03PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

If anyone can do the maths with last week's headline saying 1.9m can be infected within 3 weeks. How true can this be?

That number came from a UK model. As mentioned in the briefing no modelling group worldwide has figured this out exactly. What is probably true is that a lot more people have been infected everywhere but as they never came to the attention of the testing system, through having little or very mild symptoms, are not accounted for.

gozunda · 14-03-2020 08:04PM

Figures for numbers infected by date and totals*

Date Number Infected

29 Feb 1 (Total 1)

3 March 1 (Total 2)

4 March 4 (Total 6)

5 March 7 (Total 13)

6 March 5 (Total 18 )

7 March 1 (Total 19)

8 March 2 (Total 21)

9 March 3 (Total 24)

10 March 10 (Total 34)

11 March 9 (Total 43) 1 death

12 March 27 (Total 70)

13 March 20 (Total 90)

14 March 39 (Total 139) 1 death

In 2 weeks Ireland has gone from 1 to 139 people diagnosed with COVID-19

Figures on the scale of community type infection is unknown at this time.

Source:

https://www.gov.ie/en/...ovid-19-coronavirus/

wellwhynot · 14-03-2020 08:04PM

FutureGuy wrote: »

I think there is huge work behind the scenes to increase this.

I did read they have ordered 60 new ventilators but it could take up to 6 weeks for them to arrive. Still not enough and I can see a global shortage soon.

leahyl · 14-03-2020 08:04PM

Ant and Decs Saturday night takeaway just after starting with a full audience... *eye roll

kevcos · 14-03-2020 08:04PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

...but they deserve it

I see you are not just a muppet by name.

Strazdas · 14-03-2020 08:04PM

All cafes, bars and restaurants closed in France as of midnight tonight

munster87 · 14-03-2020 08:04PM

An Ri rua wrote: »

They could re-launch as Hand Sanitiser. Been saying in work for a fortnight it would be a great name for a band. Got a nice modern edge to it, like Ham Sandwich. But in this case, they'd be born from the ashes of the Coronas.
Got a real Spinal Tap meme to it.

Band Sanitiser

thomas 123 · 14-03-2020 08:05PM

jackboy wrote: »

The virus does not care if it is a choice or not.

Yeah but feeding your family is pretty essential, getting your fix of a pint under the guise of supporting local business is not...

kingshankly · 14-03-2020 08:05PM

Bob24 wrote: »

Public transports still operating and he fell short of telling everyone to stay at home.

So it seems like it is still not as strong as the Italian mesures, but a big step up.

As a train driver can confirm public transport still full steam ahead

spookwoman · 14-03-2020 08:05PM

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1238903234720346112?s=20
https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1238902606933655554?s=20

Ardillaun · 14-03-2020 08:05PM

An Ri rua wrote: »

They could re-launch as Hand Sanitiser. Been saying in work for a fortnight it would be a great name for a band. Got a nice modern edge to it, like Ham Sandwich. But in this case, they'd be born from the ashes of the Coronas.
Got a real Spinal Tap meme to it.

How Goth are they? They might want to keep that name. We could see a resurgence of consumptive chic.

joe40 · 14-03-2020 08:05PM

splinter65 wrote: »

The man advising Johnson Patrick Vallance has explained himself and his approach totally and quite simply and in full. You can pretend he hasn’t or that you haven’t seen the explanation but that’s hard to believe.
It’s a different approach to ours but that doesn’t make it wrong.
Do you expect the crisis here to be over in 2 weeks time when the schools reopen?

Good post. The British response is based on scientific reasoning. It may not be right but we will not know until longer term implications of this infection become known.
We can lockdown now and I fully support that but unfortunately that is not possible over longer period of time. No one is deliberately sacrificing people.
I understand about delaying the infection or slowing the rate of infection but it can't be stopped. Best we can hope for is a vaccine but that is some time off. Even the producing enough for a global population will be a big task

otnomart · 14-03-2020 08:05PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Could it be that CV was in Italy for weeks before they realised it and it got into nursing homes ?

The virus came out of China early: introduction in the US was mid - Jan.
It arrived in Italy via Germany, so Yes, it was in Europe before anyone realised it.

Downlinz · 14-03-2020 08:05PM

otnomart wrote: »

I disagree.
21 February: first case
23 February: Italy had already done 3000 tests and found 132 positive cases
Lockdown starts for the epicentres, population 50000 people, with police and army check points.
That paid off, as there are no new cases in that area now
4 March: at approx 2700 positive cases - Italy closes schools and universities - nationwide

Number of tests today approaches 110000 people, huge effort there.

Serie A games were still being played up until last weekend, ski resorts open etc. They took excellent measures in those rural towns to great effect but the rest of the country continued on like normal.

CinemaGuy45 · 14-03-2020 08:05PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Many people still have to go to work. You don't have to go to the pub.

To agree with your point and add to it how many morons go to the pub and do not go to work the next day?

Stupid selfish morons are only interested in getting pissed.:mad:

Tiddles_1 · 14-03-2020 08:05PM

jackboy wrote: »

I assume all those on the thread condemning those in pubs also condemn those still using public transport.

If you are essential staff and have no car what other choice is there ??

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 14-03-2020 08:05PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

I'm not looking for an excuse. If the government want everyone to stay out of pubs and restaurants the decree would've come to close. That hasn't come, so do people really think the government wants the pubs to stay open but be empty? Is that it?

Surely the right approach is to keep going but observe good hand hygiene and social distancing?

It's a softly softly approach and will be done over the course of a few days. If you saw images of the panic on Thursday in the shops, can you imagine how people would behave if they told us out straight that everything was being closed down indefinitely?

This thing is airborne and a lot more than we're being told. Yes washing hands and social distances helps but it's not going to stop people catching it altogether.

We will be in complete lockdown within days.

pjohnson · 14-03-2020 08:06PM

jackboy wrote: »

I assume all those on the thread condemning those in pubs also condemn those still using public transport.

People might have no choice but to use public transport to get supplies.

No excuse for pubs.

Happy4all · 14-03-2020 08:06PM

leahyl wrote: »

Ant and Decs Saturday night takeaway just after starting with a full audience... *eye roll

God forbid, but maybe the virus will get them off the tv

gmisk · 14-03-2020 08:06PM

jackboy wrote: »

The virus does not care if it is a choice or not.

What are you on about.
My point is not all people can choose not to get public transport, they can however choose not to go to the pub ..reducing their chance of exposure

RurtBeynolds · 14-03-2020 08:07PM

I expect a lock down here to be in effect before Paddy's day. It would be completely irresponsible to allow the masses to congregate in pubs right now.

fritzelly · 14-03-2020 08:07PM

pjohnson wrote: »

People might have no choice but to use public transport to get supplies.

No excuse for pubs.

The way it's going we're seeing the money grabbing pubs - open til they're forced to shut

MrMusician18 · 14-03-2020 08:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Public transport is essentially to many people.,the pub isnt

Hardly a fair comparison??

Won't it have exactly same outcome? Completely fair.

If you're willing to travel in those dirty disease boxes, you have no moral high ground to stand on.

otnomart · 14-03-2020 08:07PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

What are the Italians doing wrong? There has to be something unique about Italy (aside from it's old population) that's making this blow up.

Virologist Ilaria Capua from University of Florida http://www.epi.ufl.edu/people/facult.../ilaria-capua/
suggesting that antibiotic/antimicrobial resistence and/or a superbacteria might be contributing to the high death rate in coronavirus patients.
https://www.fanpage.it/attualita/cor...-muore-di-piu/

Superbacteria are a known threat, this article brought back bad memories of MRSA in Ireland

steves2 · 14-03-2020 08:07PM

FutureGuy wrote: »

I think there is huge work behind the scenes to increase this.

There isn't the experienced staff for the ICU beds we have never mind the beds/spaces that will be created for the extra patients. Every country has been ordering extra equipment, it'll take weeks to get them all in. People here haven't realised how bad it's likely to get, I really hope I'm wrong and that they've done just enough to prevent the system being overwhelmed.

Achasanai · 14-03-2020 08:07PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Here's the Italian numbers in detail. Looks like it's spreading everywhere. Given the incubation period it takes two weeks until any measures are reflected in the numbers. 1518 in intensive care. Shocking.

Of cases concluded, 1966 cured. 1441 dead.

I read somewhere that the big worry (well, one of the many big worries) is if/when it hits the south. The north is relatively well off, and has a health service that reflects this, but the south is far poorer, and its health service is far worse than the north.

I presume the regional nature of Italy reflects the truth in the above, but could of course be wrong.

kowloon · 14-03-2020 08:08PM

Natasha Warm Teacup wrote: »

At least there's this. Any suggestions for what they could call themselves? My immediate thought is "The Cuntonas" after the other popular drink. Or maybe they could just call themselves The Script or The Blizzards, because all of those sh!t bands are just indistinguishable from each other.

The Tiaras.

tobefrank321 · 14-03-2020 08:08PM

splinter65 wrote: »

The man advising Johnson Patrick Vallance has explained himself and his approach totally and quite simply and in full. You can pretend he hasn’t or that you haven’t seen the explanation but that’s hard to believe.
It’s a different approach to ours but that doesn’t make it wrong.
Do you expect the crisis here to be over in 2 weeks time when the schools reopen?

We know what his approach is. Herd immunisation.

Its just another way of describing what happenend in Northern Italy where the virus is now endemic and the death toll mounts.

The guy is a fool. I can confidently predict UK hospitals will be overwhemed this time next week and deaths will rocket.

If the richest part of Italy can't cope what hope for the poorest parts of the UK?

The rest of Europe are opting for a controlled spread of cv. The UK are going for an uncontrolled and rapid spread. Expect cases to escalate quickly over there.

cloudatlas · 14-03-2020 08:08PM

fin12 wrote: »

Well we are doing a hell of a lot more than the uk.

The U.K. will do the same as other countries just not yet, they aren't refusing to take the same measures as other countries.

The contact tracing for example has been stopped as they've moved on to the delay phase and health staff are being diverted to other areas.

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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP