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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭lobbylad


    They employ thousands in Cork and Dublin for a start and have invested hundreds of million investing in new sites as of yet unopen which will create further jobs.

    Their entire worldwide network (which is very substantial) is run out of Ireland for 8 hours of every day (the other 16 hours being managed by Japan and Seattle).

    They do employ a lot of people in Ireland (though admittedly not on the retail warehouse part of their business).

    But I agree with the sentiment, lets support local too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭amber2


    Just heard of a wedding going ahead today in a Kerry town and told by the venue to keep your mouth shut, well over the 100 limit. This is what we are up against.

    Edit : don’t know the venue but a couple attending the wedding.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    Handbag sneezing...about to become a thing :)

    https://twitter.com/GylesB1/status/1238373601637736453?s=20


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,308 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    conor05 wrote: »
    I don’t think there will be a national lockdown here unless workers wages are still paid in full.

    People cannot afford to lose out on 2-3 weeks wages.

    Do you think it's different in other countries or something :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    conor05 wrote: »
    I don’t think there will be a national lockdown here unless workers wages are still paid in full.
    People cannot afford to lose out on 2-3 weeks wages.

    The price to pay for not stopping the spread is to have people dying in their homes, it's happening in Italy at the moment and it's very traumatizing. You don't go to work everyday with a corpse laying in your house waiting to be collected


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    revelman wrote: »
    The problem with it is that it is a theoretical approach. Something can make lots of sense in the abstract or in a scholarly article but sometimes you have to react differently on the ground, particularly if there are a lot of unkowns about the virus in question. I think our approach is much better than the UK’s
    and the UK's response of "herd immunity" is predicated on the idea of a closed system. Problem is it's not. People and infected people will keep arriving and leaving the UK.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Wibbs wrote: »
    and the UK's response of "herd immunity" is predicated on the idea of a closed system. Problem is it's not. People and infected people will keep arriving and leaving the UK.

    Also undermines what every other country in Europe is doing and that's going to piss them off.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    20silkcut wrote: »
    The airline industry really has many countries caught by the balls.

    They are the ones transporting this virus in metal tubes at 500 mph around the world and it is terrifying that nothing can be done to stop them.

    It happened in the USA after 9/11 didn`t it if only for a few days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    I hope people are remembering to sanitise their phones regularly and remote controls too. They’re essentially an extension of our hands and they need regular cleaning too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Whats the chances of a recession and how bad will it be ?

    Heard a lot of people were laid off off yesterday in dublin city centre in food and bar industry.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    amber2 wrote: »
    Just heard of a wedding going ahead today in a Kerry town and told by the venue to keep your mouth shut well over the 100 limit.

    What is it about Kerry people when it comes to rules and regulations?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot




    Good video explaining why we need to stagger the spread (flatten the curve) from a medical perspective.

    Also that virus can last on some surfaces up to 3 days. Virus might spread up to 4.5 meters. His comments on the aerosol transmission I think suggests the virus can hang around a bit after an infected person leaves.

    Lastly “it is important to engage in social distancing now so that those who will need Medical assistance Can get it”. Some people in here do not appear to be able to get this.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Also undermines what every other country in Europe is doing and that's going to piss them off.

    After all the **** over Brexit I`d say the rest of Europe is well used to being pissed off by the UK.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    20silkcut wrote: »
    The airline industry really has many countries caught by the balls.

    They are the ones transporting this virus in metal tubes at 500 mph around the world and it is terrifying that nothing can be done to stop them.

    Total nonsense.:rolleyes:


    The average Cruising Speed speed is about 583 mph.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭Computer Science Student


    Wibbs wrote: »
    and the UK's response of "herd immunity" is predicated on the idea of a closed system. Problem is it's not. People and infected people will keep arriving and leaving the UK.

    You're not understanding herd immunity then.

    It means there are far less available nodes in the network which can be used to create infection paths from a new case to a person that doesn't have immunity.

    So if a new case arrives, it can only pose a threat to the minority if one of this minority comes within 1st degree contact with it, far less likely with decent herd immunity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Luxembourg and Finland only testing severe cases now too


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    ricero wrote: »
    Whats the chances of a recession and how bad will it be ?

    Heard a lot of people were laid off off yesterday in dublin city centre in food and bar industry.

    Guaranteed to happen at this stage. Just a question of how bad it will be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    That 'herd immunity' idea sounds crazy to me.
    They don't even know how quickly this virus will mutate and how those mutations translate into mortality rate.
    It's not science based and is ideological, coming from laissez faire.

    This guy linked above mentions that they expect the summer to slow the virus and buy time.
    https://twitter.com/whippletom/status/1238395606202306561

    Well, the weather is fantastic in Spain and the virus is out of control.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    Wibbs wrote: »
    and the UK's response of "herd immunity" is predicated on the idea of a closed system. Problem is it's not. People and infected people will keep arriving and leaving the UK.

    They're seriously miscalculations.

    They think the death rate is around 1%.
    It's way higher when your health system is overloaded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    amber2 wrote: »
    Just heard of a wedding going ahead today in a Kerry town and told by the venue to keep your mouth shut well over the 100 limit.

    Name and shame


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    "You have to let people live their lives" which roughly translates as "you have to let people carry on as normal leading a disorganised life of convenience which mustn't be interrupted or reorganised in any way because me me me and I want that holiday, that meal i have every week, that pub night I have several times a week, because holidays, pubs and restaurants will not exist in a few months time. By the way, me me me"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Seamai wrote: »
    What is it about Kerry people when it comes to rules and regulations?

    The Healy Rae's said its grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Most European countries havnt released their figures for today, Ireland Netherlands Uk Sweden France.
    Germany and Spain release figures throughout the day, updating at least 3 times daily

    I realize that but in order to compare the days with one another, a particular time must be chosen. The rest of today's figures from various countries will be included tomorrow.

    The ECDC record the figures as known 08.00 am every day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,183 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    steer wrote: »
    Local priest put sanitizer in the church.
    All stolen

    Stealing from the church. Nice.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    fr336 wrote: »
    "You have to let people live their lives" which roughly translates as "you have to let people carry on as normal leading a disorganised life of convenience which mustn't be interrupted or reorganised in any way because me me me and I want that holiday, that meal i have every week, that pub night I have several times a week, because holidays, pubs and restaurants will not exist in a few months time. By the way, me me me"

    “Generational genocide is a better alternative than not being able to go to the pub for a month”.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Corkgirl20


    Quote: amber2
    Just heard of a wedding going ahead today in a Kerry town and told by the venue to keep your mouth shut well over the 100 limit.

    I find this totally unfair. We have had to have a very restricted funeral for our family member to adhere to these limits. The limit did say under 100 but some places like in our case won’t allow more than 50.
    We are abiding by this.

    We hope to have a gathering later on (Whenever this virus is clearing off) where everybody can attend with no limits on numbers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    ricero wrote: »
    Whats the chances of a recession and how bad will it be ?

    Heard a lot of people were laid off off yesterday in dublin city centre in food and bar industry.
    Recession is fairly certain. It will be bad enough in the short term. It will be mitigated by people self-imposing austerity measures as well as the sad fact that the virus will kill a lot the old and the poor.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Are new cases in Ireland due to be released at the usual time today?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    BluePlanet wrote: »
    That 'herd immunity' idea sounds crazy to me.
    They don't even know how quickly this virus will mutate and how those mutations translate into mortality rate.
    It's not science based and is ideological, coming from laissez faire.

    This guy linked above mentions that they expect the summer to slow the virus and buy time.
    https://twitter.com/whippletom/status/1238395606202306561

    Well, the weather is fantastic in Spain and the virus is out of control.

    Its around 17 or 18 degrees and due to get colder. It's pretty miserable for madrid.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    To protect themselves from highly contagious diseases doctors wore protective hoods like the plague mask from our permanent exhibition. The face was completely covered by a cotton velvet mask and the wearer breathed through two small holes in the ‘beak’, which held herbs or sponges soaked in vinegar. These were believed to filter the air and repel disease. Glass lenses covered the eyes to ward off the patient’s gaze, in case the illness spread by eye-contact. The plague mask was coated with a layer of wax on the inside and came with a cloak-like leather costume to cover the entire body, forming a protective suit comparable to those used today in the isolation wards of modern hospitals.
    https://www.dhm.de/blog/2017/07/27/beaky-plague-protection/

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    Vinegar apparently does kill viruses, so would be an alternative hand sanitiser. Pity I LOATHE the smell of vinegar!


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