Covid-XIX Part VI - 90 cases ROI (1 death) 29 in NI (as of 13 March) Read OP

Gynoid · 13-03-2020 08:14PM

amadangomor wrote: »

Opinions on this please?

The other half has brought the children down for the weekend to see her parents. Children - one 5th class in primary school school, the other in creche. The youngest has a cough and snotty which is the way he's been most of the winter.

Her parents are mid 70s, both with underlying conditions. I kept stum as I would be shot as the messenger but for me she is putting her parents at unnecessary risk and shouldn't be going anywhere near them now.

My opinion is say what you mean always, even if you get the head ate off ye.

touts · 13-03-2020 08:15PM

Glebee wrote: »

Great to see the BBC taking this seriously. Sport Relief live show with full audience on BBC1.

Boris' policy seems to be let the old and the sick die as quickly as possible so once the fit and healthy recover in a few weeks Britain can dominate the world once again.

iamwhoiam · 13-03-2020 08:15PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Children are often asymptomatic and a major vector for this virus. It saddened me though to hear one health professional on the news say children should not visit their grandparents. It would break our hearts not to see out grandchildren for a few weeks but I do see the logic in minimising the risks of children picking up and transmitting the virus.

I understand the reasons but then they leave pubs open where crowds gather . The same people can take home the virus and infect the children . The children then become the vector .

13-03-2020 08:16PM

expectationlost wrote: »

20 new cases... might be dangerous for those concerned but does it justify the (education) shutdown?

I believe it does, along with adjusting behaviour in general to reduce the potential for spread.

What we do now will have consequences and what seems disproportionate or extreme today will have the ring of common sense tomorrow.

I'd rather regret an over reaction than a failure to act in any event. You don't get to guess again later if you're wrong now.

Quantum Erasure · 13-03-2020 08:16PM

Where's Trump?

Odds he'll announce he has it?

Bannasidhe · 13-03-2020 08:16PM

ArchXStanton wrote: »

How's Ukraine fairing in all this? Haven't heard much

They've had 3 confirmed cases. 1 death.
Mayor of Kiev is calling for schools etc to be closed but I'm not sure if that has happened.
Son is saying it's far more restricted than you'd think reading the reports - hasn't stopped him having a few pints but in photos he's sent it does look like the place is fairly deserted.

seamus · 13-03-2020 08:17PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

Simple answer: children don't earn a living or have bills to pay. There's no option for the catering or drinks industry to work from home. This is actually a quite a big issue if we're being honest.

What this requires is to abandon the principle of profiting, at least for a couple of weeks.

Ultimately at the top of the chain you have banks and other investors twisting the screws on cash flow. So require all banks and other relvant financial institutions to halt all loan repayments, commercial and consumer, to provide a temporary overdraft at zero interest to any business that requests it (subject to basic oversight to prevent piss taking), and whatever else is needed to ensure that workers continue getting paid and businesses can continue to operate through this regardless of whether there's sufficient business coming in.

Governments and world banks can provide the funding to ensure this works and the banks don't collapse.

This will pass, this is temporary, it's not a market correction, or an ongoing change in supply & demand. Business will pick up again, but it's going to be a total sh1tshow if companies have had to close down and people are left paying interest on arrears on their mortgages. What could be a year long recession could end up being a depression worse than anything we've seen if we "just let the market sort it out".

Tootsie_1 · 13-03-2020 08:17PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Where's Trump?

Odds he'll announce he has it?

I don't think he would admit it even if he did have it.

jamesf85 · 13-03-2020 08:17PM

pjohnson wrote: »

It'll end up like Italy with a stronger enforced lockdown and "big business" can fúck itself

I agree but that's not how the world works. If it slows down in a month then things will start to open up bit by bit. Travel etc.

If not then it'll be tough luck to the older generations or the immune compromised (I don't agree with this btw).

Countries can't to have their entire private sectors grind to a hault. You'd have unemployment in high six figures in Ireland alone. Already companies are letting people go and it hasn't been a day.

We need to be real, we have one shot at this.

yasmina · 13-03-2020 08:17PM

amadangomor wrote: »

Opinions on this please?

The other half has brought the children down for the weekend to see her parents. Children - one 5th class in primary school school, the other in creche. The youngest has a cough and snotty which is the way he's been most of the winter.

Her parents are mid 70s, both with underlying conditions. I kept stum as I would be shot as the messenger but for me she is putting her parents at unnecessary risk and shouldn't be going anywhere near them now.

I'm keeping my 11yo and 13yo away from my mum.
She's 75 and has COPD so is definitely a high risk group.
My 13yo was actually in tears today - he was worried that if he can't see Granny now, what if she ends up getting sick and going into hospital and then he may never see her again.
Fcuking heartbreaking stuff and this is only the start of it.

13-03-2020 08:17PM

Dial Hard wrote: »

Jesus it's gone even tetchier than normal in here this evening.

No it hasn't, ****kk offff!!!

Bob24 · 13-03-2020 08:18PM

I see Denmark and Poland are now closing their borders except for their own citizens who will be quarantined when they enter!

RandomName2 · 13-03-2020 08:18PM

Snowbiee21 wrote: »

https://worldcams.tv/ireland/dublin/temple-bar
They just don’t give a boll** do they?

International tourists? Check
Locals? Check
Close proximity? Check

All we need now is for them to be fondling each others' faces to make it really productive.

whiskeyman · 13-03-2020 08:19PM

amadangomor wrote: »

Opinions on this please?

The other half has brought the children down for the weekend to see her parents. Children - one 5th class in primary school school, the other in creche. The youngest has a cough and snotty which is the way he's been most of the winter.

Her parents are mid 70s, both with underlying conditions. I kept stum as I would be shot as the messenger but for me she is putting her parents at unnecessary risk and shouldn't be going anywhere near them now.

Did she ask the parents?
Are they aware of the risks?

This talk is going on around many households.
My own folks have accepted the risks and want to see them.
Am I to say no? They pretty much said they'd rather get it and deal with it than not see them.

giveitholly · 13-03-2020 08:19PM

yasmina wrote: »

I'm keeping my 11yo and 13yo away from my mum.
She's 75 and has COPD so is definitely a high risk group.
My 13yo was actually in tears today - he was worried that if he can't see Granny now, what if she ends up getting sick and going into hospital and then he may never see her again.
Fcuking heartbreaking stuff and this is only the start of it.

Could ye facetime or Skype her daily?

sterz · 13-03-2020 08:19PM

expectationlost wrote: »

20 new cases... might be dangerous for those concerned but does it justify the (education) shutdown?

expectationlost wrote: »

7 unknown contacts, it still hasn't gone totally wild, education shutdown was too early

I like how it took you 14 minutes to reach your own conclusion on this.

olestoepoke · 13-03-2020 08:19PM

ironingbored wrote: »

"Between 1/4 and 1/3 of patients hospitalised require intensive care...including the young...including the young..."

Dr. Antonio Pesenti
Coordinator Intensive Care Crisis Unit
Ospedale Policlinico (Milan)

Happy to translate more including the part were he says 600,000 Italians could die; the same number of Italians who died in WWI.

This is 1 example from 1 hospital.

https://www.la7.it/piazzapulita/video/coronavirus-dentro-gli-ospedali-del-nord-la-corsa-contro-il-tempo-per-sconfiggerlo-12-03-2020-313003

So the line we are being fed about it only affecting the old is not entirely true? Are there any stats? How many young people without underlying health issues have died?

Pistachio19 · 13-03-2020 08:19PM

amadangomor wrote: »

Opinions on this please?

The other half has brought the children down for the weekend to see her parents. Children - one 5th class in primary school school, the other in creche. The youngest has a cough and snotty which is the way he's been most of the winter.

Her parents are mid 70s, both with underlying conditions. I kept stum as I would be shot as the messenger but for me she is putting her parents at unnecessary risk and shouldn't be going anywhere near them now.

I agree with you. Spoke to my aunt yesterday. She won't be letting any of her grand children visit.

amadangomor · 13-03-2020 08:19PM

niallo27 wrote: »

I understand that but you cant expect society to stop living for 12 to 18 months. It's just not a viable option.

This is our WW2 moment

Will see what we're made of as a generation/community.

A year or so of inconvenience and some significant hardship that unfortunately looks inevitable will hopefully pull us together as a community and hopefully measure up to generations gone before.

D.Q · 13-03-2020 08:20PM

seamus wrote: »

What this requires is to abandon the principle of profiting, at least for a couple of weeks.

Ultimately at the top of the chain you have banks and other investors twisting the screws on cash flow. So require all banks and other relvant financial institutions to halt all loan repayments, commercial and consumer, to provide a temporary overdraft at zero interest to any business that requests it (subject to basic oversight to prevent piss taking), and whatever else is needed to ensure that workers continue getting paid and businesses can continue to operate through this regardless of whether there's sufficient business coming in.

Governments and world banks can provide the funding to ensure this works and the banks don't collapse.

This will pass, this is temporary, it's not a market correction, or an ongoing change in supply & demand. Business will pick up again, but it's going to be a total sh1tshow if companies have had to close down and people are left paying interest on arrears on their mortgages. What could be a year long recession could end up being a depression worse than anything we've seen if we "just let the market sort it out".

Time for the banks to repay the favour I think

jojofizzio · 13-03-2020 08:20PM

Tootsie_1 wrote: »

I don't think he would admit it even if he did have it.

He was looking a bit” off-colour”when he was Namaste-ing with Leo yesterday

Phibsboro · 13-03-2020 08:20PM

Looking at BBC news now, it looks like UK has basically stopped testing. They are advising anyone with symptoms to self isolate for 7 days, with no test. Only if they need hospitalisation will they be tested. So the UK numbers are going to be very low from now on - and their death rate vis a vis confirmed cases should start to get higher and higher.

Cupatae · 13-03-2020 08:20PM

Tootsie_1 wrote: »

I don't think he would admit it even if he did have it.

Imagine the pr spin , the mighty Trump battling thru corona to protect the nation...cause...MURICA!

expectationlost · 13-03-2020 08:21PM

Beasty wrote: »

To date they have only really been testing people who have "known" contacts, plus clearly some more who have presented with symptoms - I suspect quite serious symptoms to warrant tests

They have only now decided to test anyone with no know "connections". I think there will be a significant uptick in cases once this works its way through into the figures

ppl keep saying that, it hasn't exploded

Stheno · 13-03-2020 08:22PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Where's Trump?

Odds he'll announce he has it?

I was thinking the same

Leo would have to self isolate

The Cove will take over the end declare Cork is the ne Cspital

Kaisr Sose · 13-03-2020 08:22PM

Doctor Shipman wrote: »

A man is getting taken off the Emirates flight in Dublin Airport. Hes sick.

Best not to read too much into that, its a frequent enough thing.

deisedevil · 13-03-2020 08:23PM

expectationlost wrote: »

ppl keep saying that, it hasn't exploded

It has. Don't be deluded.

spookwoman · 13-03-2020 08:23PM

https://twitter.com/AIBIreland/status/1238536866162409472?s=20

statesaver · 13-03-2020 08:23PM

Bob24 wrote: »

I see Denmark and Poland are now closing their borders except for their own citizens who will be quarantined when they enter!

How do governments know citizens self quarantine themselves ?

RandomName2 · 13-03-2020 08:23PM

expectationlost wrote: »

ppl keep saying that, it hasn't exploded

We've has a 9000% increase over what it was 2 weeks ago. Let's not count our chickens.

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Covid-XIX Part VI - 90 cases ROI (1 death) 29 in NI (as of 13 March) Read OP