Covid-XIX Part VI - 90 cases ROI (1 death) 29 in NI (as of 13 March) Read OP

caveat emptor · 13-03-2020 12:45PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Lads, thought experiment.

If they announced a real lockdown on Monday, and I mean genuinely hardcore....army on the streets, road blocks between towns, zero unnecessary travel, flights cancelled, all social life engagements shut down.

What do ye think the reaction would be? Would people accept two weeks of such "hardship"?

This is inevitable IMHO. Italy has tried to dilute it but it is the only effective measure to combat this unknown pathogen.

We should snap out of this and get real.

Sigma101 · 13-03-2020 12:45PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

Anyone coming back from Spain or Italy will be met at the airport and told not to work and self isolate. They’re looking at doing the same with Germany and France.

Yes, Dept of Foreign Affairs now advising to avoid all non-essential travel to any part of Spain. Meanwhile for Norway, Denmark and Iceland, where infections are reaching Italy levels, there are no restrictions and no particular travel advice.

It seems like we're closing the windows but leaving the doors open.

rdwight · 13-03-2020 12:45PM

Drumpot wrote: »

https://twitter.com/moneillsf/status/1238423526589202438

Good to see our Northern comrades putting pressure on UK to follow suit. I really hope they unilaterally just do it and take their own steps.

If only Sinn Fein were in power in that jurisdiction. Oh wait...

Is this how we might expect SF to behave if they were in power in the republic? Complaining about the government inaction when they are part of the government. I suppose it's a step up from abstaining for three years.

wakka12 · 13-03-2020 12:46PM

Evidence of a long ignored epidemic in Indonedia is just now coming to light as 3 people die this morning including one Indonesian man who had not travelled outside the country and had no recent contact with any foreign person. Recorded cases have doubled from 35 to 70.

Somedaythefire · 13-03-2020 12:46PM

rdwight wrote: »

If only Sinn Fein were in power in that jurisdiction. Oh wait...

Is this how we might expect SF to behave if they were in power in the republic? Complaining about the government inaction when they are part of the government. I suppose it's a step up from abstaining for three years.

What a ridiculous post.

facehugger99 · 13-03-2020 12:46PM

Wife just back from a trip down town. A lot of oldies wandering the streets and shops, just generally pottering around.

The most at-risk groups are not taking the self-isolation thing seriously.

Gael23 · 13-03-2020 12:46PM

How is this different to the typical winter flu we are used to?

13-03-2020 12:47PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Wife just back from a trip down town. A lot of oldies wandering the streets and shops, just generally pottering around.

The most at-risk groups are not taking the self-isolation thing seriously.

Nobody is telling people to self isolate if they don't have symptoms or haven't been to a red zone. The whole country isn't self isolating

gmisk · 13-03-2020 12:47PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

Anyone coming back from Spain or Italy will be met at the airport and told not to work and self isolate. They’re looking at doing the same with Germany and France.

Telling them....hmm not sure that is going to do much good

igCorcaigh · 13-03-2020 12:47PM

Eh?

https://twitter.com/sandra_hurley/status/1238430391205273601?s=19

wakka12 · 13-03-2020 12:47PM

Gael23 wrote: »

How is this different to the typical winter flu we are used to?

Yes this happens every year in italy in flu season, run of the mill stuff. Stop

In the case your question is sincere, there is lots of published information on this. It's a different disease, it is more infectious, and it is more dangerous.

13-03-2020 12:47PM

Gael23 wrote: »

How is this different to the typical winter flu we are used to?

Oh FFS

Just google it

Cuckoo7 · 13-03-2020 12:47PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Evidence of a long ignored epidemic in Indonedia is just now coming to light as 3 people die this morning including one Indonesian man who had not travelled outside the country and had no recent contact with any foreign person. Recorded cases have doubled from 35 to 70.

I thought there was a new one:eek:

caveat emptor · 13-03-2020 12:47PM

What to people think about getting it?

In the 1918 pandemic those who were infected the year before survived it when the second more serious strain spread.

#LickARailing

Drumpot · 13-03-2020 12:48PM

I totally agree with that from Radio 1. .

We are so so lucky. We are not USA, we are not UK. Our authorities are prioritizing human health/life over everything else for the last 5 days. They are taking massive steps now to prepare us and learn what we can from Italy.

Our government, our healthcare authorities and our capacity to accept this so quickly ( I hear many people taking this seriously now, which is brilliant) leads me to believe that no matter how bad this gets, it would of been much worse had we left it drag out like our UK/USA counterparts.

Boggles · 13-03-2020 12:48PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Actual sick people who need emergency care will still go there. I'm talking about the punters who go to A&E for very minor issues that could be treated locally.

They are not "bed blockers."

13-03-2020 12:48PM

Phibsboro wrote: »

I've been thinking about the numbers on that approach. Herd immunity is normally considered to be 70%, but lets take the UK number of 60% population infected. That would mean 3.6 million people will need to get it. At a (conservative given Italy's numbers) 5% ICU rate, that would mean around 1.8 million requiring ICU. Lets assume they need ICU treatment for a week. UK has 4000 ICU and High Dependency beds. Lets assume they somehow manage to double that to 8000 by taking over operating theatres (although they wouldn't have the specialist nurses to actually run those beds properly). So we have 1.8 million needing ICU for a week and 8000 beds available. The infection rate would have to be spread over 4.5 years for that to work! If the ICU patients actually need longer than a week then that goes up. I can't see this being a viable approach. I think we are probably right to try and stop it in its tracks and figure out how to deal with it over the summer - and we will have to figure it out cos it will be back with a vengeance once the restrictions are relaxed, something China will find out in the next few months.

Bonkers approach to be frank. As for a second wave scenario, hopefully there is a drug/drugs available to mitigate symptoms before a vaccine comes online.

SusanC10 · 13-03-2020 12:48PM

Do we have 1 death or 2 deaths in the Republic ?

Am confused now.

sterz · 13-03-2020 12:49PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Do we have 1 death or 2 deaths in the Republic ?

Am confused now.

1.

Tacitus Kilgore · 13-03-2020 12:49PM

Gael23 wrote: »

How is this different to the typical winter flu we are used to?

Are you asking in terms of the viral makeup of the disease?

Or a much simpler question?

facehugger99 · 13-03-2020 12:49PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Over 2500 cases in Scandinavia as of this morning, just two deaths in the region though.

I'd expect the mortality rate to pan out at around the 1% mark over time - similar to the normal flu.

Fun Fact: Around 1% of the population die ever year.

wakka12 · 13-03-2020 12:49PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Eh?

https://twitter.com/sandra_hurley/status/1238430391205273601?s=19

doesnt necessarily mean that coronaviruses have increase that much, could just be loads of anxious people calling the ambulance because they think they have it

robinph · 13-03-2020 12:49PM

Gael23 wrote: »

How is this different to the typical winter flu we are used to?

It's unknown if it will tail off in better weather.

There is no existing vaccine or immunity in the population.

It's an additional strain on heath services dealing with all their normal stuff already.

NetChat101 · 13-03-2020 12:49PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

Anyone coming back from Spain or Italy will be met at the airport and told not to work and self isolate. They’re looking at doing the same with Germany and France.

Should be the same for people coming back from Cheltenham.

Funkfield · 13-03-2020 12:50PM

retro:electro wrote: »

I know someone working in an electrical goods shop. She said they were out the door yesterday with people buying freezers. If you are the kind of tart to buy another fcuking freezer to squeeze all your goodies into so there’s none left for people who need it, you’re a wojus arsehole of the highest order. I wouldn’t wish coronavirus on you but I do wish you a good dose of the ****s. A dose so bad you’ve to use up all your spare bog roll

This is not a common word. What part of the country you from?

I use this myself

Duke of Url · 13-03-2020 12:50PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Do we have 1 death or 2 deaths in the Republic ?

Am confused now.

2

One in Naas

One in Cork

sudzs · 13-03-2020 12:50PM

Sigma101 wrote: »

Yes, Dept of Foreign Affairs now advising to avoid all non-essential travel to any part of Spain. Meanwhile for Norway, Denmark and Iceland, where infections are reaching Italy levels, there are no restrictions and no particular travel advice.

It seems like we're closing the windows but leaving the doors open.

I know a couple in their 60's, both smokers, one recently had cancer and they are off on a jaunt to Spain this week. :eek:

retro:electro · 13-03-2020 12:50PM

Was listening to Sean O Rourke there and they had a text in from someone saying when an outbreak occurred in Vietnam, they introduced a system where the shops opened for two hours in the mornings on weekends so the elderly could get in before the crowds. Might not be a bad idea to introduce something similar here, maybe on a Friday. Can’t imagine how intimidating it must be to have to face the throngs and queues when you’re that age and probably frail.

MintyMagnum · 13-03-2020 12:50PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Wife just back from a trip down town. A lot of oldies wandering the streets and shops, just generally pottering around.

The most at-risk groups are not taking the self-isolation thing seriously.

Some are, some aren't, two relations of mine gone to a funeral mass today, fellow parishioner, not even close friend. I'm hoping they won't be allowed in. Their attitude is if they catch it, so be it, 'you have to go sometime'.

Kaisr Sose · 13-03-2020 12:50PM

Gael23 wrote: »

How is this different to the typical winter flu we are used to?

If you have to ask that, then I dont thinlk you will understand the answer

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