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So what are the positives surrounding the Covid19 coronavirus?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,807 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    There will be a massive baby boom next year!

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,896 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    I got out of going to the paddy’s day parade with the kids.

    What a dose.
    No parking
    Always cold
    Can’t get a table anywhere for food
    Pissed people around the place.



    The other side of it is that If things do shut down communities Will start to be communities, Like the snow a few years back people will look out for their elderly neighbour, Have any non Italian Europeans round for a few beers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭Gorteen


    I have it on good authority that the perennial trolley crisis in A&E seems to have disappeared! Where have all the emergencies gone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,275 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    There will be a massive baby boom next year!

    That's what she thinks...
    But I've had the snip ;)

    If she comes in pregnant...
    Shít will turn more EastEnders than Ian Beale :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Ideally that there would be less offshoring of key industries such as pharma and some manufacturing.

    That won't happen though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,247 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    1) Im probably going to work while sh*tfaced sitting in my boxers for a few days
    2) Enough old people may die for some tidy houses to go up for sale
    3) Traffic is a lot lighter in the mornings
    4) Been handed the ultimate excuse as to why I cant leave bed the day after paddys day
    5) Some money to be made in the stock market after this is all over and things start climbing again
    6) Helicopter parents keeping their little brats indoors
    7) tables at the chinese are easy to get because of people being racists
    8) Less anxious people in the pub wrecking the buzz.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭locohobo


    There will be a massive baby boom next year!

    OMG!!...Just the thought of a few dozen little "Corona's" running around wild.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,239 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    People won't eat more locally produced food ...actually might end up being the opposite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,239 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    1)
    6) Helicopter parents keeping their little brats indoors
    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    People reevaluate their position on open borders and the death knell for globalism hopefully.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,239 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    There will be a massive baby boom next year!
    No there won't.

    Firstly we won't have a vaccine by then anyhow. And i don't think this will produce a baby boom.


  • Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Hopefully or at least more "local" manufacturing of medical equipment and drugs. And hopefully world attention and pointing of fingers at cultures in Asia(not just China) that insist on having open air food markets with wild animals in appalling conditions. Damn near every flu and "bug" that springs up on the regular originates there because of that set up. Such practices are literally virus making factories. I can understand it in some parts of Africa where people are dirt poor and bush meat is a survival thing, but east Asia has few excuses on that score. It's generally the older generations and more local primitive cultures around food, but it needs to stop and in China at least the young are asking WTF about these retarded practices.

    While I agree with most of what you said, you'll find large parts of China which are easily as poor as many places in Africa which practice the wet markets. People tend to look at the Tier 1 or 2 cities in China, and think of all the advancements and wealth available... but the countryside is still very different, and wouldn't be too different from when Mao was a kid. Even in the cities, once you step away into the suburbs, you'll find people living well below the poverty line, which is why restaurants for dog are still around (apart from those who eat it for traditional reasons)

    The virus is a good thing because the exotic meat trade is under serious examination by all levels of Chinese society. SARS didn't really scare the Chinese much, and behaviors regarding hygiene didn't change. I'm expecting to see far more emphasis (both official and unofficial) on personal hygiene, and habits which are outright unhealthy. Which is fantastic, since it's one of my major gripes with living there.

    I know the thread said positive things, but depending on your pov this could be either. As a result of the virus and the attitude of foreigners (non-Chinese) I'm getting reports of massive anti-foreigner sentiment. It used to be there well in the background, but it seems to have grown in a major way. The PRC attempt to bring in easier access for foreigners to get residency visas was shot down by the public, which generally doesn't happen. So, we could be seeing China turn isolationist, which will likely please a lot of posters here on boards. I wouldn't, personally, see it as a positive, since progressive movements in China needed foreign help to spread among the public there through the impact of western culture and ideals. An Isolationist China wouldn't be good for Asia, since it just encourages an echo chamber for their needs, rather than being aware of the consequences for what they do... A serious weakness to Chinese culture.

    As for here, I'm hoping that the experience of the virus will encourage more investment in disease research. It remains one of the most dangerous ways for a species wide wipe, and needs real investment now, rather than waiting until a disease appears.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    So what are the positives surrounding the Covid19 coronavirus?

    1/ The more of us that contract Covid-19 & survive, the stronger 'The herd' will be next time it comes back & is met by our "ready 4 action" antibodies!

    2/ Cheap flights, cheap holidays in China & Italy.

    3/ A wake up call for the whole planet, which will have us much more aware & prepared, should a much more dangerous strain of virus arrive in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Hopefully it will be a hammer blow to the 'no borders / no nation's globalists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭combat14


    house prices drop :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭Ferm001


    Think a lot of companies will realise the savings to be made from staff remote working, less people flying all over the world for meetings.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Weepsie wrote: »
    More working from home isn't necessarily a good thing. You're employer can easily start to encroach on your own time.

    Things like ah sure you're normally in traffic 7.30-9 and 5-6.30 , why not work extra hours.

    Nah you can't go offline now, you're at home and can work through your food and toilet breaks.

    I know of at least 1 home job that was treated like that, but was an extreme example.

    Fair point. Some employers/managers would abuse it for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,239 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Ferm001 wrote: »
    Think a lot of companies will realise the savings to be made from staff remote working, less people flying all over the world for meetings.
    Obesity will sky rocket!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,298 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    While I agree with most of what you said, you'll find large parts of China which are easily as poor as many places in Africa which practice the wet markets. People tend to look at the Tier 1 or 2 cities in China, and think of all the advancements and wealth available... but the countryside is still very different, and wouldn't be too different from when Mao was a kid. Even in the cities, once you step away into the suburbs, you'll find people living well below the poverty line, which is why restaurants for dog are still around (apart from those who eat it for traditional reasons)

    The virus is a good thing because the exotic meat trade is under serious examination by all levels of Chinese society. SARS didn't really scare the Chinese much, and behaviors regarding hygiene didn't change. I'm expecting to see far more emphasis (both official and unofficial) on personal hygiene, and habits which are outright unhealthy. Which is fantastic, since it's one of my major gripes with living there.
    I would hope things do change K, but if they don't the rest of the world needs to ramp up production across the board so we don't have to rely on China. We rely on them too damned much as it is. It's a ridiculous state of affairs when many of the drugs and medical equipment including those needed to fight things like this are mostly produced there.
    I know the thread said positive things, but depending on your pov this could be either. As a result of the virus and the attitude of foreigners (non-Chinese) I'm getting reports of massive anti-foreigner sentiment. It used to be there well in the background, but it seems to have grown in a major way. The PRC attempt to bring in easier access for foreigners to get residency visas was shot down by the public, which generally doesn't happen. So, we could be seeing China turn isolationist, which will likely please a lot of posters here on boards. I wouldn't, personally, see it as a positive, since progressive movements in China needed foreign help to spread among the public there through the impact of western culture and ideals. An Isolationist China wouldn't be good for Asia, since it just encourages an echo chamber for their needs, rather than being aware of the consequences for what they do... A serious weakness to Chinese culture.
    Oh sure I get that K, but... We've all heard the morons on twitter/youtube/facebook et al rev up the ballsology that this virus was man made in a lab in Wuhan. The joke is it didn't need to be. Their food culture on its own is a "lab" for weapons grade pathogens. The annual flu season? Chinese food markets/production in origin. Hell the Black Death kicked off there. Bird flu? From civet cats that were penned in with ducks and chickens in one of their medieval markets. No university or research centre on the planet would allow a department to run that experimentally. It's like waving lit cigars around gunpowder. Their particular cultural practices around food are a consistent threat to humanity on an ongoing basis and have been for centuries. It's a "war" of sorts and we need to take a war footing with this nonsense. Not just China either, we see similar markets in Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia etc. This backward primitive nonsense has to be clamped down upon and if they won't do it, hit them hard in the pockets until they bloody well do. As for China going isolationist? It's par for the course and the course of Chinese civilisation/empire from waaaay back has been brief and bloody impressive flowering of culture, technology, art and civilisation, followed by very long periods of isolationism and stasis.
    As for here, I'm hoping that the experience of the virus will encourage more investment in disease research. It remains one of the most dangerous ways for a species wide wipe, and needs real investment now, rather than waiting until a disease appears.
    +1000.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,713 ✭✭✭touts


    Positives:

    Well a recession was coming. Can't beat the economic cycle. If it had come through normal circumstances then it would have been harder on the likes of Ireland because the Germans and EU would say sort yourselves out but follow the rules. As a result of this crisis they will be far more open to solutions that will ultimately dampen the worst effects of a recession on the smaller European nations.

    Working from home will be a positive. The mass experiment of remote working will show it is a viable option. Hopefully that will prompt government infrastructure policies from building roads into Dublin to building fiber into rural Ireland

    Supply chains will have to become far more diverse and local. Sure China is cheap but we haven't even seen the gap in supplies from them as 2-3 months of gadgets etc were in transit. Now companies will be far more aware of second and third supply options. That could see companies turn to Africa for a backup to Asia.

    Assuming we come through this then it will show that the world can all overcome great adversity. Coronavirus is just a blip on comparison to the threat climate change represents. Hopefully we will be far more aware of out fragile situation and work together to solve the real problems


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,896 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    People reevaluate their position on open borders and the death knell for globalism hopefully.

    You know this came from China, one of the unopenest borders around the place?

    It’s an illness that passes between people, regardless of race, creed or country. If you think open boarders and globalism are the biggest problem in the world then you need to re-evaluate a few things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,239 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Girls will stop getting false nails to avoid the trapping of the virus. ( Those things are like bacteria traps!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 922 ✭✭✭65535


    Hopefully more vegetarianism


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    You know this came from China, one of the unopenest borders around the place?

    It’s an illness that passes between people, regardless of race, creed or country. If you think open boarders and globalism are the biggest problem in the world then you need to re-evaluate a few things.

    It passes between people because people pass between countries so easily. China is relatively closed to people coming in but not when it comes to Chinese people going out.. Which is what spread this in the first place.


  • Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It passes between people because people pass between countries so easily. China is relatively closed to people coming in but not when it comes to Chinese people going out.. Which is what spread this in the first place.

    I ended up in China because it was the quickest place I could get a visa (6 days processing back then), when I was leaving Oz. It's increased significantly with the need to get documents notorized, but it's still not difficult to enter. China hasn't been difficult to enter since the 80s. The issue is residency.. not needing to renew your visa every year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,239 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    It passes between people because people pass between countries so easily. China is relatively closed to people coming in but not when it comes to Chinese people going out.. Which is what spread this in the first place.
    Its not at all closed to people going in.

    My brother didn't even need a visa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    Its not at all closed to people going in.

    My brother didn't even need a visa.

    Fair enough, I was replying to the poster who said China were the least open borders nation out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,286 ✭✭✭kenmc


    To turn back to God and make yourself right, giving the increasing atheist society we now live in that's controlled by the mass produced mainstream media.
    Which god specifically? Thor? Zeus? Any one you fancy besides "none"? Or just the one your hobby indulges?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    There will should be increased focus on having an up-to-the-job public health system (factoring in 'private' hospital capability too) that has built-in redundancies for crises such as this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    So basically climate change will be the main positive . Reduced population. Lower emissions. Etc..


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