LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

Idbatterim · 10-03-2020 09:02PM

Truckermal wrote: »

I had to get my Ring enlarged earlier this year..

I'll get me coat..:p

Here's my Barge that cost me 2.5K last year and I love it!

very nice! very regal

Truckermal · 10-03-2020 09:08PM

Idbatterim wrote: »

very nice! very regal

Yep I could fit 5 Megan Merkles in the boot...:P:P

Truckermal · 10-03-2020 09:35PM

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-ls-2008/24420723

Ok this is odd because The Car Crew in Sandyford had this for sale only last week for €5950, this is for sale nearly 5 years now I first looked at it in 2015 in Swinford but it's being tossed around since! I'd love to know why it's being sold so cheap....

No tax in 4 years and no test since 2019...

Voodoomelon · 10-03-2020 11:35PM

ronnie3585 wrote: »

Aren’t valve seals a consumable part on these?

Yep. I've had mine done...twice.

Idbatterim · 11-03-2020 12:49AM

cartman, stop the press, I have found your dream car!!!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202002147339167?advertising-location=at_cars&price-from=7000&maximum-badge-engine-size=6.5&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&model=S%20CLASS&sort=relevance&fuel-type=Petrol&make=MERCEDES-BENZ&postcode=ls298jn&price-to=15000&radius=200&page=1

one of a kind, beautiful spec Mercedes S600L V12 520bhp Bi-Turbo super saloon originally belonging to musical billionaire Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber. Please look up photos online showing the car at Windsor castle in 2012 presenting the queen with her diamond jubilee present with Gary Barlow! Well maintained and presented in sparkling tansanite blue metallic with tan hide interior, perfectly suited private plate to match available at £500 additional cost. Packed with extras including; infra red double glazed glass, rear side window and rear window blinds, heated and cooled seats front and rear, massaging seats front and rear, dynamic drive active seats keep you upright when cornering, keyless entry, keyless start, push button start, wood walnut steering wheel, interior ambient mood lighting package, bluetooth / phone preparation, 4 zone climate control including the luxury rear climate control package , reversing camera, radar parktronic, digital tv, DVD player, night vision, rear fridge, 19" multispoke alloy wheels, distronic radar cruise control (maintains the distance to the car in front and brakes/speeds up automatically), harmon kardon luxury sound system, soft close doors, Full comprehensive service history - Dealer and Mercedes specialist, cornering lights, bi xenon lights, upgraded led rear tail lights, private plate S600MRC included. 3 previous owners 2 of these were husband and wife MOT 03/05/2020, recently serviced, Any inspection or trial welcome, First to see will buy. To point out as of yet not a single person has viewed and I’m quite happy about that am in absolutely no hurry to sell and want to make sure she goes to the right owner. I will not accept less than asking price sorry. Next MOT due 03/05/2020, Full service history, Blue, 3 owners, £10,000

Vehicle registered: 23/10/2006

This car comes with
Electric windows
Air conditioning
Satellite navigation
Parking aid
DVD
MP3 player
CD player
Leather trim
Heated seats
Height adjustable driver's seat
Height adjustable passenger seat
Folding rear seats
Child seat points (Isofix system)
Sports seats
Alloy wheels
Power steering
Steering wheel rake adjustment
Steering wheel reach adjustment
Cruise control
Traction control
Central locking
Alarm
Immobiliser
Driver's airbags
Side airbags
Passenger airbags
Electric sunroof
Metallic paint
Spare wheel (Full)
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11-03-2020 09:57AM

Truckermal wrote: »

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Ok this is odd because The Car Crew in Sandyford had this for sale only last week for €5950, this is for sale nearly 5 years now I first looked at it in 2015 in Swinford but it's being tossed around since! I'd love to know why it's being sold so cheap....

No tax in 4 years and no test since 2019...

Current add mentions ......... "Minor damage, fixable"

Idbatterim · 11-03-2020 11:34AM

Augeo wrote: »

Current add mentions ......... "Minor damage, fixable"

I always wonder when I hear that , why they don’t do it themselves so

Eric Cartman · 11-03-2020 12:48PM

Augeo wrote: »

Current add mentions ......... "Minor damage, fixable"

1 euro part that requires 20 hours of engine teardown to reach no doubt.

Eric Cartman · 11-03-2020 12:50PM

Idbatterim wrote: »

cartman, stop the press, I have found your dream car!!!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202002147339167?advertising-location=at_cars&price-from=7000&maximum-badge-engine-size=6.5&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&model=S%20CLASS&sort=relevance&fuel-type=Petrol&make=MERCEDES-BENZ&postcode=ls298jn&price-to=15000&radius=200&page=1

that is absolutely magnificent. Fully loaded seats all round and the fridge, the fridge....

CoBo55 · 11-03-2020 03:10PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

that is absolutely magnificent. Fully loaded seats all round and the fridge, the fridge....

Coool.... Leaves the room.

Eric Cartman · 11-03-2020 03:16PM

anyone have any idea of how to sell a private plate or what that plate may even be worth. If I could haggle some money off and get a few quid for that then the figures may just about work out...

ohnonotgmail · 11-03-2020 03:31PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

anyone have any idea of how to sell a private plate or what that plate may even be worth. If I could haggle some money off and get a few quid for that then the figures may just about work out...

If you want to sell the plate on the car you have to apply to the DVLA for a retention certificate for the plate. you have to do that while the car is in the country. and the car would have to be registered in your name at an english address which might be tricky for you.

Eric Cartman · 11-03-2020 03:45PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

If you want to sell the plate on the car you have to apply to the DVLA for a retention certificate for the plate. you have to do that while the car is in the country. and the car would have to be registered in your name at an english address which might be tricky for you.

so would almost be better off telling the seller to move on the plate.

ohnonotgmail · 11-03-2020 03:53PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

so would almost be better off telling the seller to move on the plate.

much easier from your perspective.

Truckermal · 11-03-2020 04:37PM

Augeo wrote: »

Current add mentions ......... "Minor damage, fixable"

That makes it more confusing as it was only purchased last week! If you follow this thread you might remember me viewing that Car in Mayo but the dealer was a d1ck... Not a lot goes wrong with them in fairness...

Last week ABS sensor that cost €40 quid fitted, PDC sensor before that and a TPMS sensor that I haven't got around to yet!

traco · 11-03-2020 05:12PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

that is absolutely magnificent. Fully loaded seats all round and the fridge, the fridge....

Its been for sale for a while, pretty sure I saw it a few months back.

Missing a few things although but they come fairly loaded as standard in the UK, other nice options rear tables, rear DVD, heated steering wheel and can't tell if it has the rear phone or panoramic roof.

The price is good and I'd say its well maintained. Only issue is whats the VRT going to be if bringing back into the republic. I was budgeting 8-14k for VRT.

Spec in my one for ref, took me nearly 12 months to find it.
SA codes
Parameter Value
09N STEUERCODE WERK SINDELFINGEN/GRAZ
14N STEUERCODE WERK SINDELFINGEN/GRAZ
205B OWNERS MANUAL AND SERVICE RECORD - ENGLISH
218 REAR-VIEW CAMERA
221B SIGN COOLANT/REFUELING - ENGLISH
223 REAR BACK REST ADJUSTMENT AND HEAD RESTRAINTS, ELE
229 PARK ASSIST
231 GARAGE DOOR OPENER
233 AUTONOMOUS INT. CRUISE CONT. PLUS (DISTRONIC PLUS)
249 INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR MIRROR,AUTOMATICALLY DIMMING
250B MOBILO LIFE/EUROPE SERVICE PACKAGE
275 MEMORY PACKAGE (DRIVER SEAT, STRG. COL., MIRROR)
276 MEMORY REAR SEAT
282 THROUGH-LOADING FEATURE VIA ARMREST IN REAR
283B AIRBAGLABLE - ENGLISH
289 LEATHER STEERING WHEEL WITH TRIM INSERT
297 ELECTRIC ROLLER SUN BLINDS IN REAR DOOR LH AND RH
308 REFRIGERATOR IN REAR
310 DUAL CUP HOLDER
368U FLINTGRAY - METALLIC PAINT
388 PHONE MOBILE, MTUS-SYSTEM
390 EQ SERVICE MAINTENANCE
401 FRONT SEAT CLIMATE CONTROL
402 REAR SEAT CLIMATE CONTROL
406 MULTI-CONTOUR REAR SEAT
407 FOLDING TABLE,MANL.ADJUSTAB.,IN REAR LEFT
408 FOLDING TABLE,MANL.ADJUSTAB.,IN REAR RIGHT
413 PANORAMIC SLIDING SUNROOF/GLASS SUNROOF
423 5-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
432 DYNAMICS SEAT,FRONT LEFT AND RIGHT
436 COMFORT HEADREST DRIVER AND FRONTPASSENGER
437 COMFORT HEADREST REAR
443 HEATED STEERING WHEEL
461 INSTRUMENT WITH MILES IND. AND ENGLISH LEGEND
475 TIRE PRESSURE CONTROL
487 ABC SUSPENSION (ACTIVE BODY CONTROL)
500A EXCLUSIVE LEATHER TRIM
501A EXCLUSIVE LEATHER - BLACK/ANTHRACITE
527 COMAND DVD APS WITH NAVIGATION
537L GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND
540 ROLLER BLIND, ELECTRIC, FOR REAR WINDOW
551 BASIC ANTITHEFT ALARM SYSTEM (ATA)
573 CHILD SEAT MOUNTING, ISOFIX IN REAR
581 AUTOMATIC CLIMATE CONTROL
582 AIR CONDITIONER IN THE REAR
595 HEAT INSULATING+IR REFLECTG.SAFETY GLASS SIDE+REAR
5XXL EUROPE
600 HEADLAMPS - CLEANING EQUIPMENT
610 NIGHT VIEW ASSIST
616 BI-XENON HEADLICHT W.ACTVIE CURVELIGHT LEFT-DRIVE
619 CORNERING ILLUMINATION
666 PRODUCT PROT.F.TRANSPORT VEH. W/O TIE-DOWN HOOKS
669 SPARE WHEEL / FOLDING WHEEL
673 HIGH-CAPACITY BATTERY
731 TRIM PIECES - WOOD BURRED WALNUT VENEER
770 AMG 19" SPOKED WHEELS WITH MIXED TIRES
807 AEJ 06/1/M/X
807 *1 722.6__ 19960119 AEJ 06/1/M/X
807 *2 221____ 20030428 YEAR OF MODIFICATION
807 *3 275.9__ 20040909 YEAR OF MODIFICATION
810 PREMIUM SOUND SYSTEM
814 DVD CHANGER
856 PHONE HANDSET IN REAR ARMREST
863 TV-TUNER DIGITAL TO ANALOG
864 REAR ENTERTAINMENT (2 SCREENS)
875 HEATED SCREEN WASH SYSTEM
876 INTERIOR LIGHT ASSEMBLY
881 REMOTE TRUNK LOCKING
882 SENSOR SYSTEM AND ANTITHEFT ALARM SYSTEM
883 POWER CLOSING SYSTEM
885 HIGHTEN THEFT PROTECTION
889 KEYLESS - GO
910 DYNAMO WITH HIGHER CAPACITY (FFO)
91V SPEED- + LOADINDEX 96Y+101Y
983 COC PAPER EURO 4 TECHNOLOGY W/O REG. CERT. PART II
989 IDENTIFICATION LABEL UNDER WINDSHIELD
F221 SERIES 221
FV SEDAN ELONGATED
GA AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
HA REAR AXLE
K10 SOFTWARE CONTROL FOR STATIC CURVE ILLUMINATION
K11 ADAPTIVE STOP LIGHT FLASHING
K12 STEUERCODE FUER SERVICEINTERVALL 30000 KM
K14 CONTROL CODE FOR SERVICE INTERVAL 20000 KM
M275 V12-GASOLINE ENGINE M275 BI-TURBO
M55 CAPACITY 5,5 LITRE
R RIGHT-HAND STEERING
R01 SUMMER TIRES
U60 PEDESTRIAN PROTECTION - ACTIVE ENGINE HOOD
U72 DVD PLAYER WITH REGIONAL CODE 2, EUROPE, JAPAN
VL FRONT AXLE HALF, LEFT
VR FRONT AXLE HALF, RIGHT

Voodoomelon · 11-03-2020 08:26PM

I'm amazed at how many of these cars stay unsold in the UK, considering the sheer size of the market over there, the cheaper motor tax, the more favorable attitude towards motoring by the public and the amount of wealth to boot.

I've seen countless Flying Spurs, 760Lis, S600s sit for months on end. I'd be all over them if it wasn't for the VRT lottery, virtually all of them have been removed from the calculator.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 11-03-2020 08:38PM

If you owned that V12 Merc you'd HAVE to straight pipe it!

Eric Cartman · 11-03-2020 08:59PM

Voodoomelon wrote: »

I'm amazed at how many of these cars stay unsold in the UK, considering the sheer size of the market over there, the cheaper motor tax, the more favorable attitude towards motoring by the public and the amount of wealth to boot.

I've seen countless Flying Spurs, 760Lis, S600s sit for months on end. I'd be all over them if it wasn't for the VRT lottery, virtually all of them have been removed from the calculator.

Sometimes its a case of finance companies saying no. In the UK you can hire purchase almost anything under 15 years old, however finance companies work on weird voodoo logic, you could get a 2008 s600 on finance for 260 pounds a month say , if your credit is good and computer says yes. However , if the company determines that your area is high risk for the car (s600 knightsbridge - yes , s600 sheffield council estate - no) , if the car has been previously reposessed, if the garage has a bad reputation with the finance company , theyll all flag the rejections on the system, other finance companies have access, see a rejection or two and just stay away from a perfectly good car just incase. UK hire purchase voodoo keeps a lot of those cars sitting in place waiting for a cash buyer which the uk people aren't fans of cash buying motors.

traco · 11-03-2020 09:30PM

These uber barges aren't for the faint hearted either as they can bring eye watering bills. Here's an example of the thought process on them. Ironically I didn't find this thread until after I'd actually test drove this exact car in January.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1807179

I just checked and its still for sale. Its an honest car. Excellent history fro the last 40k miles. Can't believe its still available. I have loads of info on it of anyone is interested. Might need new rear drop links or bushes or something. Rear suspension rattle but apart from that a solid car. I nearly bought it but the VRT put me off as I reckon I'd have been into the 20-25k range by the time I got it back,

https://www.wilsons.co.uk/used-cars/10898054-mercedes-benz-s-class-s600-l-4dr-auto-bi-turbo-automatic/

Voodoomelon · 11-03-2020 11:46PM

The right year as well, 2006 is the last year a petrol car will allowed become a classic under current legislation. I think one of the best investments to be made if you have a spare €100k lying around is to build a small shed/warehouse, fill it with x10 V12s and sit on them for 5-10 years. You'd surely double your money.

Idbatterim · 11-03-2020 11:54PM

yeah, when I last saw a s600 w221 it was 20k, double cost of a S500. Whatever about the S500, the servicing etc and fuel on the 600 is depraved. The S500 is the one that makes by a mile the most sense in my opinion...

selectamatic · 12-03-2020 12:10AM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

If you owned that V12 Merc you'd HAVE to straight pipe it!

"Effspot" on youtube has some videos of a v12 s600 and a v12 Toyota century with full custom exhausts. Well worth a watch.

12-03-2020 12:20AM

Voodoomelon wrote: »

The right year as well, 2006 is the last year a petrol car will allowed become a classic under current legislation. I think one of the best investments to be made if you have a spare €100k lying around is to build a small shed/warehouse, fill it with x10 V12s and sit on them for 5-10 years. You'd surely double your money.

That seems oddly arbitrary. Is there a reason for it?

Voodoomelon · 12-03-2020 12:51AM

There's a fair few of us who eyeball V8 and V12 luxobarges continuously. We all agree that they are getting scarcer and scarcer. Which almost contradicts my other post a few posts back regarding how long certain models take to sell. The difference is the price. Trying to find poorly specced, let alone nicely specced V12s from the German brands for under £15k is getting harder and harder. V8s are a little easier to find, but also starting to disappear.

The main reasons I feel are due to much more efficient petrols with smaller displacement, electrification looming and yokes being exported. The days of picking up decent barges for peanuts are limited I feel. A well specced E38 750 with 50k miles will go for over £10k now, same goes for the 8 series except double to treble the price.

Those W221s will go up as the predecessor is no where near as sought after unless AMG. Great spec E65s are £7-8000 in the UK.

Granted nothing major will happen pricewise in the next 1-2 years, but I think there will be a dramatic shift towards electric beyond that which will make these cars far more collectable.

Midnight_EG · 12-03-2020 01:01AM

Voodoomelon wrote: »

There's a fair few of us who eyeball V8 and V12 luxobarges continuously. We all agree that they are getting scarcer and scarcer. Which almost contradicts my other post a few posts back regarding how long certain models take to sell. The difference is the price. Trying to find poorly specced, let alone nicely specced V12s from the German brands for under £15k is getting harder and harder. V8s are a little easier to find, but also starting to disappear.

The main reasons I feel are due to much more efficient petrols with smaller displacement, electrification looming and yokes being exported. The days of picking up decent barges for peanuts are limited I feel. A well specced E38 750 with 50k miles will go for over £10k now, same goes for the 8 series except double to treble the price.

Those W221s will go up as the predecessor is no where near as sought after unless AMG. Great spec E65s are £7-8000 in the UK.

Granted nothing major will happen pricewise in the next 1-2 years, but I think there will be a dramatic shift towards electric beyond that which will make these cars far more collectable.

I think he meant why cars post 2006 can't become classic

Esel · 12-03-2020 01:04AM

Midnight_EG wrote: »

I think he meant why cars post 2006 can't become classic

I'd be interested in the answer too, as I have not seen this mentioned before.

Voodoomelon · 12-03-2020 10:32AM

The proposed legislation infers no fossil fuel vehicle will be issued an NCT after 2045. As to whether FF cars after 2006 will be allowed become classics I don't know.

traco · 12-03-2020 04:33PM

Voodoomelon wrote: »

There's a fair few of us who eyeball V8 and V12 luxobarges continuously. We all agree that they are getting scarcer and scarcer.

They are getting hard to find and it helps to be a bit daft to buy these things. I spent 12 months looking for one and bought the W220 S280 in the interim as an apprenticeship car to be honest. I wanted to see what they were like to work on and its been and enjoyable experience.

While looking I toyed with the V8's and S55 versions as finding a nice 600 was not easy. However I made the decision that if I was going to buy one car as a long term keeper then it had to be V12 and it had be LWB and it had to be as loaded as I could find. I looked at a few in the UK but as luck would have it an Irish one turned up and a deal was done. My granny always said "whats for you won't pass you", so who am I to argue??

I have it about 5 weeks now and apart from running Star (fair few errors) on it and charging the battery I haven't done anything with her but I do have a list.

They are a special car, if you haven't heard one start its worth a listen, the starter sound is special until it catches. I have to smile when I put my hand on the engine cover while its running and there's no vibrations.

Then there's the torque of that engine - its immense. Flooring it at standstill is a waste of time unless you like buying new tyres or just sitting there making noise but when up and rolling and you squeeze the pedal (no need to floor it) it gathers pace at an astonishing rate and its all hushed with no fuss. Considering it weighs over 2000kg its a bit bonkers.

Here's a completely wreckless video on public roads and I think this one is running a DMS tune. Watch the tacho when the speedo tops out at 260kph. The car has other ideas, grabs 5th and goes for more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXXzgTBJQSo

Equal length headers on 600 that sounds like an F1 car, doesn't work the same on the Biturbo engine though as the turbos muffle the scream.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSSfFLl3N2g

Back box removal is simple and sounds really nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEtzMsCO0rU

My plan is to keep it very long term and enjoy it. It will rotate with the Boxster on/off the road due to our stupid tax system. I plan to get it back to as close to how it left the factory but who knows. :rolleyes: Maybe a 320CDi badge?

traco · 12-03-2020 05:37PM

Back on topic - 2003 CL500 for sub 4k, NCT Jan 21
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/cl-500amazing-specnct-01-21/24315210

LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

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