Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

eviltimeban · 11-03-2020 09:18AM

LastFridayNight wrote: »

I have the porridge, the tea bags, and the UHT milk in myself.

I've made what I call my "zombie apocalypse" shopping list; I'm going to see what this evening's numbers are like and if they are doubling again, I'll get that shop done asap.

Tootsie_1 · 11-03-2020 09:20AM

eviltimeban wrote: »

I've made what I call my "zombie apocalypse" shopping list; I'm going to see what this evening's numbers are like and if they are doubling again, I'll get that shop done asap.

What’s on the list ? Curious now .

namloc1980 · 11-03-2020 09:20AM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Morning

I’m skipping numerous pages again. What’s SK’s numbers?

+242. Was below 100 yesterday.

Tootsie_1 · 11-03-2020 09:21AM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Morning

I’m skipping numerous pages again. What’s SK’s numbers?

242 new cases

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

whisky_galore · 11-03-2020 09:22AM

smelly sock wrote: »

To me the radical measures of lock downs and community testing needs to start now. This evening they will probably announce 20 plus cases.

I love the way they're called "lock downs".

Who is going to stop you going out? Will there be martial law and defence forces out monitoring people?

pjohnson · 11-03-2020 09:22AM

None of the Cheltenham morons should be let return to any kind of job. Ideally ground flights and just leave them floating in the Irish Sea like the other corona cruises.

dougm1970 · 11-03-2020 09:23AM

"Trump talks down virus as his properties face possible hit"...

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/trump-talks-virus-properties-face-hit-69495458?cid=referral_taboola_feed

11-03-2020 09:24AM

iguana wrote: »

I had just this dream last night. I was carrying my toilet paper from the car to the house and everyone was staring and pointing at me.

Wait till the dream is real and they mug you of it!

Joke

Mr Velo · 11-03-2020 09:25AM

smelly sock wrote: »

First match called off this evening. So they are doing the right things. Not the horsey lads though.

Game only called off this evening as Arsenal players have gone into self isolation. No cancellation due to mass gatherings etc. (yet).

odyssey06 · 11-03-2020 09:26AM

whisky_galore wrote: »

I love the way they're called "lock downs".

Who is going to stop you going out? Will there be martial law and defence forces out monitoring people?

They don't have to monitor the people directly. Just that pubs, restaurants, cinemas, community halls etc are all shut after 6pm. No weddings, no funerals, no baptisms.

In Italy the army is locking down areas not people as in you can't leave your region, they have checkpoints on major roads.

nthclare · 11-03-2020 09:26AM

pjohnson wrote: »

None of the Cheltenham morons should be let return to any kind of job. Ideally ground flights and just leave them floating in the Irish Sea like the other corona cruises.

I hear you but do you seriously think that the horsey crowd will be treated like the rest of the population?

More than likely they'll be left sauntering in with a hop skip and a jump...

Dont quarantine those people they're the echelons of society, they're toffs.

Drumpot · 11-03-2020 09:26AM

Did anybody hear the reports that the virus is far more contagious then they thought! Supposedly Chinese studies suggested that a person on a bus got the virus 4.5 metres distance away. Just as alarming was that another person was traced to getting the virus on a bus 30 minutes after the infected person got off. This is apparently one of the reasons why a mask would offer some protection!

Also can last for days on surfaces and lasts longer on 37oC or lower so we can forget about our summer helping us out.

Also, USA are in big trouble, most people won’t be able to afford to be tested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZV9z0RVhy4

If you don’t know who is in the YouTube club watch more videos (he tells you who he is) or don’t annoy me. He’s been calling this pretty much spot on since early January and he has the credentials to discuss this better then anybody I’ve read in any of these threads.

jester77 · 11-03-2020 09:27AM

dougm1970 wrote: »

"Trump talks down virus as his properties face possible hit"...

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/trump-talks-virus-properties-face-hit-69495458?cid=referral_taboola_feed

He is one dangerous loon

namloc1980 · 11-03-2020 09:27AM

dougm1970 wrote: »

"Trump talks down virus as his properties face possible hit"...

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/trump-talks-virus-properties-face-hit-69495458?cid=referral_taboola_feed

The most incompetent person imaginable to be in charge of this crisis. I think the US is going to be ravaged by this virus and it'll be down to sheer incompetence and Trump's continuous lying.

amacca · 11-03-2020 09:29AM

sydthebeat wrote: »

That could be a post about my mother as well. She's 72 and still in good health, but it's a struggle to get her to understand she has to avoid going to unnecessary gatherings. She went out last night to a play! It's a very tricky balance to get the point across without scaring her into being a hermit with no human contact

I'm currently in the process of scaring my parents into being hermits, I feel if they get it were talking about a death sentence for one if not both of them. They are very high risk, compromised immune systems, underlying conditions galore. It's a struggle to get them to realise going to mass and routine appointments to renew prescriptions isn't advisable. It's my opinion if you're serious about preventing at risk people from having a horrible death and all the guilt associated with that be a hermit for as long as possible .... it's the only sure way.

I personally can't understand this "it's not time yet" horse****

You want to delay the spread of a virus then limit opportunities for transmission now to ****....I think it's irresponsible to delay because of some plan ...i hope we don't find out later the plan was disastrous ....the things the govt don't want to do will happen anyway when this is an even bigger problem ...why not limit spread now? We kmow the health service can't cope with a spike....i also have my doubts about the data, I'm very afraid we don't have community transmission because we are not testing for it

Don't wait until horse has bolted to shut the barn door

industry accountant · 11-03-2020 09:30AM

Drumpot wrote: »

Did anybody hear the reports that the virus is far more contagious then they thought! Supposedly Chinese studies suggested that a person on a bus got the virus 4.5 metres distance away. Just as alarming was that another person was traced to getting the virus on a bus 30 minutes after the infected person got off. This is apparently one of the reasons why a mask would offer some protection!

Also can last for days on surfaces and lasts longer on 37oC or lower so we can forget about our summer helping us out.

Also, USA are in big trouble, most people won’t be able to afford to be tested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZV9z0RVhy4

If you don’t know who is in the YouTube club watch more videos (he tells you who he is) or don’t annoy me. He’s been calling this pretty much spot on since early January and he has the credentials to discuss this better then anybody I’ve read in any of these threads.

I stopped reading at then:pac:

Thewife · 11-03-2020 09:30AM

Sorry if this was posted before , also I’m sure I asked similar before but can’t find replies ..

Regarding the “lockdown “ in Italy .
I would have presumed a lockdown was exactly that , no one in and no one out but yet airports and other modes of travel are still operating ? Italy hasn’t stopped flights into and out of the airports and it seems its up to the individual countries or airlines to make that decision .

Pascal o donoghue was asked on the Sean o rourke show why we haven’t stopped flights from Italy coming here and amongst other things he said we need to think how Ireland would feel if a country banned us from landing or our citizens from arriving .. I was absolutely shocked that he seems to be looking at this travel ban as a insult to the Italians if it were to happen .. Am I taking him up wrong and totally over reacting or was I correct in saying that’s what his main agenda seemed to be ?

Xertz · 11-03-2020 09:33AM

That’s how it came across to me too. Seemed like he was more worried about offending the Italians. To be fair, I do not think anyone in Italy would be remotely offended either.

Working class heroes · 11-03-2020 09:35AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51827356

The might concentrate the minds.

screamer · 11-03-2020 09:36AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

The most incompetent person imaginable to be in charge of this crisis. I think the US is going to be ravaged by this virus and it'll be down to sheer incompetence and Trump's continuous lying.

Scariest thing is even people I know in the US, who I work with and would consider to be smart people are believing what he’s saying. I even had one quote the seasonal flu infection/ death rate in us compared to coronavirus to me to try and give me some peace of mind..... needless to say I’ve lost all confidence in their decision making abilities.
America are going to be overwhelmed by this, and they don’t even know it’s there.

whisky_galore · 11-03-2020 09:37AM

amacca wrote: »

I'm currently in the process of scaring my parents into being hermits, I feel if they get it were talking about a death sentence for one if not both of them. They are very high risk, compromised immune systems, underlying conditions galore. It's a struggle to get them to realise going to mass and routine appointments to renew prescriptions isn't advisable. It's my opinion if you're serious about preventing at risk people from having a horrible death and all the guilt associated with that be a hermit for as long as possible .... it's the only sure way.

I personally can't understand this "it's not time yet" horse****

You want to delay the spread of a virus then limit opportunities for transmission now to ****....I think it's irresponsible to delay because of some plan ...i hope we don't find out later the plan was disastrous ....the things the govt don't want to do will happen anyway when this is an even bigger problem ...why not limit spread now? We kmow the health service can't cope with a spike....i also have my doubts about the data, I'm very afraid we don't have community transmission because we are not testing for it

Don't wait until horse has bolted to shut the barn door

You would need to come over and scare my mother.
Obstinate and thick as two short planks, won't use sanitising fluid where it's provided.

NIMAN · 11-03-2020 09:38AM

whisky_galore wrote: »

You would need to come over and scare my mother.
Obstinate and thick as two short planks, won't use sanitising fluid where it's provided.

Mine would be like that too.

Some just can't be talked to. They know best:(

screamer · 11-03-2020 09:39AM

Thewife wrote: »

Sorry if this was posted before , also I’m sure I asked similar before but can’t find replies ..

Regarding the “lockdown “ in Italy .
I would have presumed a lockdown was exactly that , no one in and no one out but yet airports and other modes of travel are still operating ? Italy hasn’t stopped flights into and out of the airports and it seems its up to the individual countries or airlines to make that decision .

Pascal o donoghue was asked on the Sean o rourke show why we haven’t stopped flights from Italy coming here and amongst other things he said we need to think how Ireland would feel if a country banned us from landing or our citizens from arriving .. I was absolutely shocked that he seems to be looking at this travel ban as a insult to the Italians if it were to happen .. Am I taking him up wrong and totally over reacting or was I correct in saying that’s what his main agenda seemed to be ?

That’s what he said, but is that what he meant? I don’t think so. If we shut down flights, then it turns to ferries, what next? As an island we are very dependent on those modes of transport to survive. It could be a case of cutting off our nose to spite our face

Thewife · 11-03-2020 09:41AM

Thanks for you reply , I was really hoping I wasn’t imagining it !
I couldn’t believe what I was hearing I really couldn’t . You can be damn sure if Ireland has the kind of numbers Italy or other places had their governments wouldn’t think twice about how they might offend us from banning our entry to their country !
I’m really just not at all comfortable with the way our government seem to be adopting a “ kick the can down the road “ attitude to this virus .
More needs to be done to protect our country and it’s Citizens. The government need to bring in Stronger measures now like school closures etc rather then sit like a waiting duck until the sh*t hits the fan and then battle to the repair it !

Xertz wrote: »

That’s how it came across to me too. Seemed like he was more worried about offending the Italians. To be fair, I do not think anyone in Italy would be remotely offended either.

rovers_runner · 11-03-2020 09:41AM

Principals asked to update their txt a parent details.
Closures coming on Friday, until after Easter.
Assuming creches will follow suit......
How do families with both parents working manage?

Wibbs · 11-03-2020 09:43AM

industry accountant wrote: »

I stopped reading at then:pac:

And another half hour video from yer man, where a five minute one would suffice. And as for him "calling this pretty much spot on" he's just read out WHO and other sources from day one, with lots of added conjecture and shifting of positions.

Drumpot · 11-03-2020 09:43AM

NIMAN wrote: »

Mine would be like that too.

Some just can't be talked to. They know best:(

When a smart person knows what they know and have a habit of listening to the same sources for their “credible” information, it’s a problem.

Sure you had people talking about David McWilliams podcast a few weeks ago as if it was the beacon of sanity because it was playing things down. I listened to it and was a pile of crap and he was trying to compare a virus outbreak to a market crash. Mind you he wasn’t totally wrong or panicked people but they whole narrative was “it won’t be as bad as it looks”. Made my blood boil but it shows you that intelligent people (McWilliams is no mug) can be over confident to the point of ignorance and hubris.

cj maxx · 11-03-2020 09:43AM

On my Google feed it popped up that the English health minister has tested positive for COVID19 ,!

owlbethere · 11-03-2020 09:44AM

ricero wrote: »

I find it beyond farcical and downright disrespectful that in this time of crisis, Varadkar and the likes are jetting off around the world for St Patricks day.

It's disgusting. It really is. We should all be minimising our risks when it comes to this and would also include our politicians. Do our lads have their own private planes or flights. It doesn't bode well with me anyways. What of they pick up the virus along the way and bring it home and into the dail. Does the dail have to stop and self isolate themselves? Nonsense

hblock21 · 11-03-2020 09:44AM

https://www.wantedinmilan.com/news/coronavirus-italys-frontline-doctors-face-tough-choices.html?fbclid=IwAR1mguhWUBPLDXVMrCBMYt9Qrb4XRLkvRCSdcO8-v5fati1jonD8lnWb_O4

Doctors on the frontline speak out about reality of Coronavirus outbreak in Italy.
A growing number of Italian doctors and nurses are speaking out about the reality of the Coronavirus outbreak and the difficult choices they have to make. The picture they paint is bleak.

One doctor, working on the frontline in Bergamo in northern Italy, describes the outbreak as a "disaster" and a “tsunami that has overwhelmed us", in an emotional Facebook post.

Daniele Macchini, a surgeon at Humanitas Gavazzeni hospital, said that cases were "multiplying" daily, stating: "The results of the swabs now come one after the other: positive, positive, positive. Suddenly the emergency room is collapsing.”

War-like numbers

The Sacco hospital in Milan is intubating between 30 and 50 patients a day, said Emanuale Catena, director of the institute's intensive care unit, who likened the numbers to a war-like situation.

Responding to the question about which patients find themselves in intensive care, Catena told Sky Tg24: "They are almost exclusively adult patients, at least with us, elderly and young adults, males, females are less affected. Patients are very critical, they are intubated, connected to a ventilator, kept in a medically induced coma, and many days of hospitalisation are necessary for the illness to resolve itself."

"Being in intensive care 10 or 15 days then exposes the patient to all the long-term complications of intensive care" - Catena said - "A period of rehabilitation and convalescence is definitely necessary before returning to normal life."

Anesthesiologists are increasingly faced with the dilemma of managing a higher number of patients than available beds, leading to "morally and emotionally difficult" choices, according to a document published by the Italian Society of Anesthesia, Anelgesia, Resuscitation and Intensive Care (Siaarti).
This means prioritising younger, otherwise healthy patients over older patients or those with pre-existing conditions. In short, giving priority to those with the greatest chance of survival.
"We do not want to discriminate," said anesthesiologist Luigi Riccioni, head of the ethical committee of Siiarti, who co-authored new guidelines on how to prioritise treatment of Coronavirus cases in hospitals. "We are aware that the body of an extremely fragile patient is unable to tolerate certain treatments compared to that of a healthy person."

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP