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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,038 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Be good if a carrier of it could do an AMA for boards


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    sadie1502 wrote: »
    And why is this worse than SARS 1? Is there a vaccine for SARS?

    SARS 1 killed you before you got to infect too many other people.
    Covid 19 incubates a LOT longer.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,384 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Did that time-travelling machine experiment work in the end?

    The uk are actually hoping for 50% penetration rate, as an optimistic outcome. The range is wide 20-80%, and it's still too early to call from their experts.

    You must be more of an expert in all this, than all the other experts put together, fair play!

    The attack rate is one dimension, how it plays out across time is another.

    I think those figures of attack rate are reasonable, this is a new virus after all, but it really comes down to how we control the R0.

    If China is at scale 10, business as usual is at scale 0. Where are we as a country going to lie on that scale?

    From that estimation, we can then calculate the number of dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    0 outside Wuhan isn't it? Can happen when you enforce a lockdown and quarantine with an iron fist. We let a pile of Italians in for a piss up last weekend ffs.

    Sad and so true.

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    obi604 wrote: »
    Is the 9 o clock Rte news not on tonight?

    Their EPG is all messed up on Sky.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,038 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    2 staff members at Ervia have tested positive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    less than 300 deaths? theres optimism, and then theres ...

    Someone has to be.

    Beats joining the circle jerk of fear mongering nonsense going on in here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    fritzelly wrote: »
    America is gonna be Italy, Iran, Wuhan and S Korea all rolled into one
    Totally agree the map yesterday showed very wide dispersal, but lowish numbers, once each of those points spreads, and under a market led free economy (where healthcare access isn't assured): could be real messy.

    On the plus side, they probably have more 'preppers' per ratio, that anywhere outside e.g. Northern Siberia.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish



    Hate to break it to ya but the HSE have already said that they would be taking over private hospitals as needed. Not even the super-rich have an exit to escape.

    TBH if I won 40 million, a good chunk of that would go as a donation to vital services.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,612 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Except you aren't taking a best case scenario. You are taking a worst case scenario that has no basis in reality and would require 0 action from the population and government..

    what action do you see the government taking to mitigate the numbers, what should they be doing right now?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    We have had 9 years of Governments that have pillaged the health system.

    If you are only becoming aware of this now, well you well and truly are a grade A f ucking idiot.

    If you believe this, you're the idiot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    We have had 9 years of Governments that have pillaged the health system.

    If you are only becoming aware of this now, well you well and truly are a grade A f ucking idiot.

    You are. Don't dispute it.

    Always look at a society and measure it how it treats its less well off.

    Well done. You know if you are in that cohort.

    They have increased spending in healthcare by 7billion in that time.

    They haven't pillaged it.

    They have poured money into a black hole and have made no reforms.

    I hope this helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Assuming US have sorted out their testing now with the ramp up of new cases?

    Democratic hoax tho'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    European countries should be helping Italy. I know they have to prepare for their own cases but people should not be dying for want of a bed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Boobies!

    Irish humor isn’t exactly complexed, but definitely the best!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭dan786




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,425 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    BloodBath wrote: »
    We're not all jammed on a cruise ship full of infected staff and passengers though are we. We're in a sparsely populated, low density island with a tiny number of cases and we're taking early action to contain it. But hey let's use some hypothetical "worst case guesstimate scenario" BS numbers.

    Take it up with the experts. This is what happens if we don't take steps to contain it, and this is why we need to contain it.
    They're not made up numbers the HSE or Varadkar plucked from thin air. They are projections run by health experts modelling the infections.

    Up to 250,000 Scots could be hospitalised by the coronavirus in a worst-case scenario, the country’s most senior doctor has warned. Chief Medical Officer Dr Catherine Calderwood said between 50% and 80% of the population may become infected by the virus with a “peak” expected in two or three months time.
    https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/2044604/coronavirus-in-scotland-an-in-depth-look-at-what-the-first-minister-and-chief-medical-officer-said-in-their-update-today/

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Hurrache wrote: »
    If you believe this, you're the idiot.

    Apathy has got us to a considerably worse place than we could be in.

    Just because your offended, do not call me an idiot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    What town though, Kinvara, Gort, Athenry, Craughwell, Loughrea etc? Why can't they just say the places, why are they not been called out on this in their live broadcasts?

    It's kinvara I was told today. Hope they are in isolation and doing ok.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    All schools and universities need to be closed this friday, no ifs, buts or maybes.

    All sports fixtures need to be cancelled or postponed indefinitely for 3 reasons. Prevent mixing of crowds, players in dressing rooms and free up much needed capacity in hospital emergency departments. We cant have our health professionals dealing with sports injuries now. As many people need to be kept out of hospitals as possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭NSAman


    European countries should be helping Italy. I know they have to prepare for their own cases but people should not be dying for want of a bed.

    Wait till it grabs hold here. They wont be dying for a bed, they will be dying for a trolley, beds are gone almost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭sadie1502


    Silverfish wrote: »
    SARS 1 killed you before you got to infect too many other people.
    Covid 19 incubates a LOT longer.

    But is it not the same virus?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Someone has to be.
    Beats joining the circle jerk of fear mongering nonsense going on in here.

    Multi-state, expert panel level advice, and forecast modelling = nonsense?
    ok...

    Do you use this skill removing weeds from the garden (cover the eyes and repeat x3 times: "there are no weeds") Give it a go shure, might work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Totally agree the map yesterday showed very wide dispersal, but lowish numbers, once each of those points spreads, and under a market led free economy (where healthcare access isn't assured): could be real messy.

    On the plus side, they probably have more 'preppers' per ratio, that anywhere outside e.g. Northern Siberia.

    I fear the numbers here if they started doing mass testing - Cork is the new Wuhan for Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Apathy has got us to a considerably worse place than we could be in.

    Just grounded in reality and facts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    If they have upped the testing numbers to the extent they claim, we'll be starting to have a good idea of the actual spread of the infection by Friday. Personally I'm not leaving the house until then at the very least. I value the health of my family and myself over the economic plans of any government. Those of us lucky enough to escape unscathed from this period in history will look back at this and be awestruck at the lack of compassion shown to the Irish population. Many populations across Europe are already finding out just how expendable they are.


    Hate to break it to ya but the HSE have already said that they would be taking over private hospitals as needed. Not even the super-rich have an exit to escape.

    It is serious and you sound stressed but no no to go to town on what was a tongue in cheek comment.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I can see the future

    ITALYFIVE.png?itok=TFZfXqyv

    See around the 3 - 7th of February on that chart is where we will need to close the schools. This is what they didn't do in Italy, soon they will be dropping dead in the streets. (please God not)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    I don’t know if it’s been posted before.
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/all.14238


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,425 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Quite a bit different to those saying he said that that many people WILL die isn't it.

    I don't know what your sentence means because I don't know who claimed they know how many will die. Nobody knows how many will die. They are called projections. If anybody says they know how many people will die then you know for sure they are talking BS. But referencing the projections in a thread like this is not scaremongering and they are not BS figures.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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