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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 Kellyg248


    A trick to remembering case law? 🥴


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭Fe119


    Sineaddh wrote: »
    if it came up so much on the last paper is it still likely to come up this time? :confused:

    I feel like Misrepresentation and Terms keep coming up all the time and can't be left out :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭ihatethesea


    Kellyg248 wrote: »
    A trick to remembering case law? ��

    I try and think of how the name could some how relate to the facts of a case. One example is to remember that in Hyde v Wrench, a counter offer amounts to rejection of original offer I think "If i wanted to reject someone I would HYDE"
    They can get quite silly but its the only thing that works for me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 Kellyg248


    Brilliant, thank you, I won't forget that one for sure now!!
    I try and think of how the name could some how relate to the facts of a case. One example is to remember that in Hyde v Wrench, a counter offer amounts to rejection of original offer I think "If i wanted to reject someone I would HYDE"
    They can get quite silly but its the only thing that works for me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭DUMSURFER


    I’d cover limitations of actions and damages too for essay questions!

    Took a look at the questions for Damages there, is it generally the same question every time?

    Looks like if you just hit the points below (unless the question restricts you to only aggravated and punitive), you should be good... Is it a lot more nuanced or would this basic outline suffice for an answer on it?

    - Compensatory Damages
    (i) Pecuniary
    (ii) Non-Pecuniary
    - Aggravated Damages
    - Punitive Damages
    - Nominal & Contemptuous


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭nmurphy1441


    DUMSURFER wrote: »
    Took a look at the questions for Damages there, is it generally the same question every time?

    Looks like if you just hit the points below (unless the question restricts you to only aggravated and punitive), you should be good... Is it a lot more nuanced or would this basic outline suffice for an answer on it?

    - Compensatory Damages
    (i) Pecuniary
    (ii) Non-Pecuniary
    - Aggravated Damages
    - Punitive Damages
    - Nominal & Contemptuous

    Exactly yeah! That’s what I’ve done anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 mcgreee


    EU

    Thoughts on Equivalence and Effectiveness being asked again this year?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 PerryMason2020


    Could anyone break down section 71(2) of the Succession Act for me, I always struggle to work out who it should go to:

    Degrees of blood relationship of a direct lineal ancestor shall be computed by counting upwards from the intestate to that ancestor, and degrees of blood relationship of any other relative shall be ascertained by counting upwards from the intestate to the nearest ancestor common to the intestate and that relative, and then downward from that ancestor to the relative; but, where a direct lineal ancestor and any other relative are so ascertained to be within the same degree of blood relationship to the intestate, the other relative shall be preferred to the exclusion of the direct lineal ancestor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 lawstudentirl


    Could anyone break down section 71(2) of the Succession Act for me, I always struggle to work out who it should go to:

    Degrees of blood relationship of a direct lineal ancestor shall be computed by counting upwards from the intestate to that ancestor, and degrees of blood relationship of any other relative shall be ascertained by counting upwards from the intestate to the nearest ancestor common to the intestate and that relative, and then downward from that ancestor to the relative; but, where a direct lineal ancestor and any other relative are so ascertained to be within the same degree of blood relationship to the intestate, the other relative shall be preferred to the exclusion of the direct lineal ancestor.

    Maybe this will help you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭nmurphy1441


    DUMSURFER wrote: »
    Took a look at the questions for Damages there, is it generally the same question every time?

    Looks like if you just hit the points below (unless the question restricts you to only aggravated and punitive), you should be good... Is it a lot more nuanced or would this basic outline suffice for an answer on it?

    - Compensatory Damages
    (i) Pecuniary
    (ii) Non-Pecuniary
    - Aggravated Damages
    - Punitive Damages
    - Nominal & Contemptuous

    Exactly yeah! That’s what I’ve done anyway!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭channing90


    Eu
    I have :
    citizenship
    DE
    Judicial review
    Equality
    Free movement of goods
    Institutions
    Kinda know general principles
    People’s thoughts ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭jewels652


    mcgreee wrote: »
    EU

    Thoughts on Equivalence and Effectiveness being asked again this year?

    Is that free movement of goods? :€


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭Sineaddh


    could someone explain innominate terms to me? i cant even identify it in my manual :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭jewels652


    channing90 wrote: »
    Eu
    I have :
    citizenship
    DE
    Judicial review
    Equality
    Free movement of goods
    Institutions
    Kinda know general principles
    People’s thoughts ?

    Throw in workers if you can. Is short enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    mcgreee wrote: »
    EU

    Thoughts on Equivalence and Effectiveness being asked again this year?

    Wasn’t that just on the October paper?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 mcgreee


    Wasn’t that just on the October paper?

    It was but he's asked it twice in a row before and I'm paro it'll come up again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 mcgreee


    jewels652 wrote: »
    Is that free movement of goods? :€

    I think its MS Liability/General principles. Only discovered it going through the papers so not sure!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭jewels652


    Oh god I nearly panicked there. Not doing general principles so I should be fine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭channing90


    jewels652 wrote: »
    Throw in workers if you can. Is short enough.

    I kinda have that with citizenship alri actually.
    Hopeful for equality it’s a nice essay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 EAL2019


    Sineaddh wrote: »
    could someone explain innominate terms to me? i cant even identify it in my manual :/
    Sineaddh wrote: »
    could someone explain innominate terms to me? i cant even identify it in my manual :/

    It might not be listed as a specific topic on its own, but it would probably be in whatever chapter the condition/warranty distinction is.

    So some terms are conditions, a breach of which allow the contract to be repudiated, and some are warranties which only lead to damages if breached.

    Innominate terms are terms that can’t be clearly classified as either conditions or warranties.

    The main case is Hong Kong Fir Shipping, where the privy council (I think? English anyway) basically said that terms shouldn’t be “pigeon holed” as either conditions or warranties and their categorisation depends on the degree of the breach, ie how serious it’s effects are. That approach was adopted in Irish Telephone Rentals v ICS

    There was a subsequent English decision Hansa Nord, where they set out factors to be considered: whether the term was expressly stated to be a C/W, whether it was impliedly stated, whether statute/case law gave a classification and whether the effect was such as to substantially deprive the party of all benefit.

    I don’t actually have my notes in front of me right now so hopefully someone else will explain better, but hopefully that’ll give you a basic idea!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    mcgreee wrote: »
    I think its MS Liability/General principles. Only discovered it going through the papers so not sure!

    I didn’t know that, thanks for the heads up!

    Has anyone got sample answers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭mydogwentroof


    Sineaddh wrote: »
    could someone explain innominate terms to me? i cant even identify it in my manual :/

    I second this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 TheLawGuy


    Sineaddh wrote: »
    could someone explain innominate terms to me? i cant even identify it in my manual :/
    I second this

    Do ye think this has a high chance of coming up again ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭godfather2


    I second this

    Something that is not defined as either a condition or a warranty. The effect of its breach will determine which one it actually is.so a court will decide which it is depending on the effect it has on the contract.
    I swear I am not trying to wreck your head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭EmmaO94


    What will it take for these exams to be cancelled...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 HellsBellsxx


    Just wondering if anyone had a spare copy of the succession act?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭Sineaddh


    Misrepresentation

    Would I be right in saying it’s actionable in tort for negligent and fraudulent - damages

    If it’s innocent then it’s equity and can be rescinded?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 JimmyJazzz


    Sineaddh wrote: »
    Misrepresentation

    Would I be right in saying it’s actionable in tort for negligent and fraudulent - damages

    If it’s innocent then it’s equity and can be rescinded?


    Sales of Goods 1980 s. 45 - damages for non-fraudulent misrepresentation too (unless the misrepresenting party had reasonable grounds to believe the misrepresentation and did believe it)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 lawyersuffolk


    how do you know in a consumer protection Q whether to apply SOG leg or unfair regs??? I know MQ under SOG Act is only in course of business & consumer under SOG is person buying goods not in course of business - so is SOG = consumer not in course of business + is Unfair Terms Reg = re consumer to business contracts? getting very mixed reading past reports


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭ahhhhhFE1s


    how do you know in a consumer protection Q whether to apply SOG leg or unfair regs??? I know MQ under SOG Act is only in course of business & consumer under SOG is person buying goods not in course of business - so is SOG = consumer not in course of business + is Unfair Terms Reg = re consumer to business contracts? getting very mixed reading past reports

    I know unfair regs applies to terms that have not been individually negotiated so if there is some mention of term not having been discussed you would want to apply it but honestly I'd mention the two of the in any consumer protection question regardless


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