Clerical Officer 2020

EO2019 · 10-03-2020 7:54am #1

Just went live - nationwide incl Dublin. Looks like no aptitude tests.

https://publicjobs.ie/en/index.php?option=com_jobsearch&view=jobdetails&Itemid=263&cid=114837&campaignId=2037907

I wonder why? · 10-03-2020 11:57am

Good luck to everyone

suppet · 10-03-2020 2:47pm

So what happens to the other panel? Does is expire now that this is up?

niallmacsuain · 10-03-2020 2:50pm

That was a pleasantly quick application process. Best of luck everyone!

Bubbles100 · 10-03-2020 5:35pm

Hi all,

Do the aptitude tests not get sent on after the initial application? I went for the recent TCO campaign and the tests followed through email via a link.

MCLAW · 10-03-2020 5:39pm

suppet wrote: »

So what happens to the other panel? Does is expire now that this is up?

Yes I wonder.....

greensausage · 10-03-2020 5:49pm

This is my first time applying for this, as someone mentioned already its a really quick application process online so I'm just wondering how they decide who to interview or how does the process work?

pjcpolly · 10-03-2020 5:54pm

greensausage wrote: »

This is my first time applying for this, as someone mentioned already its a really quick application process online so I'm just wondering how they decide who to interview or how does the process work?

You will get a familiarisation test to fill out on the 27th to be completed by the 30th and how you answer will determine if you go to interview/aptitude stage(if there is an aptitude test.

pjcpolly · 10-03-2020 5:55pm

Bubbles100 wrote: »

Hi all,

Do the aptitude tests not get sent on after the initial application? I went for the recent TCO campaign and the tests followed through email via a link.

It said on the booklet that the test will be issued on the 27th March

greensausage · 10-03-2020 7:01pm

pjcpolly wrote: »

You will get a familiarisation test to fill out on the 27th to be completed by the 30th and how you answer will determine if you go to interview/aptitude stage(if there is an aptitude test.

Thanks for the info.

ge_ch · 10-03-2020 7:03pm

pjcpolly wrote: »

You will get a familiarisation test to fill out on the 27th to be completed by the 30th and how you answer will determine if you go to interview/aptitude stage(if there is an aptitude test.

The online assessment questionnaire (multiple choice and situation based) should not take more than an hour to complete. Candidates will then be given a panel number and will be called for interview based on this. There will be NO aptitude tests for this competition.
Sounds very similar to the TCO recruitment process.

Larryduff2018 · 10-03-2020 8:39pm

I cant seem to find the booklet on it. It just said booklet to follow. Where did you find the dates 27th?
Many thanks

ge_ch · 10-03-2020 10:16pm

Larryduff2018 wrote: »

I cant seem to find the booklet on it. It just said booklet to follow. Where did you find the dates 27th?
Many thanks

It was there this morning but can’t see it now. Took a screenshot of it, see attachment

Elai · 11-03-2020 2:27am

Hi I have applied for the clerical officer 2020 the first step today. Was it just general details there was no question on previous employment or education. I just want to make sure this was correct thanks

greensausage · 11-03-2020 7:24am

Elai wrote: »

Hi I have applied for the clerical officer 2020 the first step today. Was it just general details there was no question on previous employment or education. I just want to make sure this was correct thanks

Yes that was it for now.

EmmetWhitey · 11-03-2020 9:56am

suppet wrote: »

So what happens to the other panel? Does is expire now that this is up?

The 2018 panel remains open until the first interview in the new campaign is done. So probably another month or so

HungrySeagull · 11-03-2020 11:17am

EmmetWhitey wrote: »

The 2018 panel remains open until the first interview in the new campaign is done. So probably another month or so

****e. I called PAS yesterday and the person who I spoke to thought it was open for another few months. There are only 10 people ahead of me in Kildare for the current campaign. I will be gutted if it ended before I was called and I did my interview 6 months ago. The thoughts of going through the whole process again....

applejunkie · 11-03-2020 11:23am

HungrySeagull wrote: »

****e. I called PAS yesterday and the person who I spoke to thought it was open for another few months. There are only 10 people ahead of me in Kildare for the current campaign. I will be gutted if it ended before I was called and I did my interview 6 months ago. The thoughts of going through the whole process again....

If I were you I would apply for the new campaign just in case the panel closes that your on. Just to be on the safe side

HungrySeagull · 11-03-2020 11:55am

applejunkie wrote: »

If I were you I would apply for the new campaign just in case the panel closes that your on. Just to be on the safe side

I will be but I will be so angry if my panel closes as I am so close.

applejunkie · 11-03-2020 12:01pm

HungrySeagull wrote: »

I will be but I will be so angry if my panel closes as I am so close.

I cant see the new panel being set up for a couple of months at least, people will have to be interviewed, go through clearance and Garda vetted for the new panel and that all takes time.
Hopefully they will get to you before that

HungrySeagull · 11-03-2020 12:02pm

applejunkie wrote: »

I cant see the new panel being set up for a couple of months at least, people will have to be interviewed, go through clearance and Garda vetted for the new panel and that all takes time.
Hopefully they will get to you before that

Fingers crossed!!

UI_Paddy · 11-03-2020 12:29pm

Just applied myself as I'm looking to change location. I think it's great that there seemingly isn't going to be aptitude tests this time, I've been working in this kind of role for 3 years now and those tests are not a good indicator of a candidate's potential work performance. It also means the panel should move faster and more people will get jobs

Larryduff2018 · 11-03-2020 7:48pm

Tks for that

Slippin Jimmy · 11-03-2020 7:51pm

Also applied for this. Happy in my current job, but always looking for new opportunities.

Janas · 11-03-2020 9:34pm

I submitted applucation today but couldn't find the actual application form with education and work details...anybody throw some light on this? Did I do it incorrectly?

I wonder why? · 11-03-2020 10:16pm

I think you are okay. Mine was the same

pjcpolly · 12-03-2020 1:51pm

Janas wrote: »

I submitted applucation today but couldn't find the actual application form with education and work details...anybody throw some light on this? Did I do it incorrectly?

You will receive an application form to fill out on the 27th once they have closed on the 24th

shmeee · 13-03-2020 1:13am

Information booklet attached, since removed from the site. Not sure why.

Might be to do with dates getting moved due to the ongoing Coronavirus.

tringle · 13-03-2020 9:11am

Just applied, want to move location too and mobility shut down this Wednesday.

Elai · 13-03-2020 8:59pm

Hi did anyone do a preparation course for these positions or know of anyone who did. There are a few companies who do them. Thanks

doc22 · 14-03-2020 9:08am

UI_Paddy wrote: »

Just applied myself as I'm looking to change location. I think it's great that there seemingly isn't going to be aptitude tests this time, I've been working in this kind of role for 3 years now and those tests are not a good indicator of a candidate's potential work performance. It also means the panel should move faster and more people will get jobs

I don't know about this, the questionnaire even if it were a good indicator can be done by someone else and no way check. And How will the panel move faster, if anything the panel will move alot slower as those with poor maths/verbal skills won't be weeded out.How will having no aptitude tests mean people will get more jobs?

Sweetiesloth · 14-03-2020 1:31pm

If CO is based on similar questions to TCO all well and good but somehow I find it hard to believe that this is the case. Why is this CO 2020 different to the previous CO campaigns ..... they love using the aptitude tests which I find unfair as not everyone is good at these aptitude tests but it does not mean they cannot do the job! People shouldn't be judged on these tests to do the work. I myself have worked as a TCO and have done the job but when it comes to these bloody tests they knock my confidence.

Sweetiesloth · 14-03-2020 1:43pm

doc22 wrote: »

I don't know about this, the questionnaire even if it were a good indicator can be done by someone else and no way check. And How will the panel move faster, if anything the panel will move alot slower as those with poor maths/verbal skills won't be weeded out.How will having no aptitude tests mean people will get more jobs?

Yes, I know what you are saying about weeding out poor math and verbal skills. They have to have some sort of aptitude test, they must have. There will be loads of people applying for thee positions, so I am sure there will have to be some sort of test to narrow down the applicants.

SB1982 · 14-03-2020 7:18pm

tringle wrote: »

Just applied, want to move location too and mobility shut down this Wednesday.

What do you mean when you say “mobility shut down”.

chaikhosi · 16-03-2020 10:39pm

Any idea if Brits can still go for this after Brexit? I looked at the eligibility rules Word document and it talks about EEA citizens or people with a stamp 4 visa. At the moment I'm neither.

EO2019 wrote: »

Just went live - nationwide incl Dublin. Looks like no aptitude tests.

November Golf · 17-03-2020 9:44am

chaikhosi wrote: »

Any idea if Brits can still go for this after Brexit? I looked at the eligibility rules Word document and it talks about EEA citizens or people with a stamp 4 visa. At the moment I'm neither.

Brits are unusual in that even after brexit, with the common travel area, they are likely to retain the right to live and work in Ireland - which is essentially the requirement you are referring too

UK are EEA until 31/12/2020 and I would assume your eligible, if you were eligible at the time of applying.

If your concerned, send PAS an email however you may need to point out the above in your email so to be clear why you believe you should be eligible.

Mollywolly · 18-03-2020 5:02pm

chaikhosi wrote: »

Any idea if Brits can still go for this after Brexit? I looked at the eligibility rules Word document and it talks about EEA citizens or people with a stamp 4 visa. At the moment I'm neither.

I'm a Brit, living here 20+ years. I applied and was successful in the TCO campaign 2020 and I'm waiting for PAS to offer me a temp position, but in the meantime I'll be applying for the permanent position.

So I would say go for it - best of luck!

the1eyedsnake · 19-03-2020 4:00am

Has anyone tried applying through Irish Language? or has done it previously?

tringle · 19-03-2020 3:02pm

SB1982 wrote: »

What do you mean when you say “mobility shut down”.

Got an email from Peoplepoint last week (well actually 17 emails) saying my organisation has put everyones mobility on hold and will review it in 6 months. So applying for CO 2020 as may get through that quicker. Ive an hours commute each way to work and would like to be closer to home.

SB1982 · 19-03-2020 3:08pm

tringle wrote: »

Got an email from Peoplepoint last week (well actually 17 emails) saying my organisation has put everyones mobility on hold and will review it in 6 months. So applying for CO 2020 as may get through that quicker. Ive an hours commute each way to work and would like to be closer to home.

I’m not eligible for mobility for another year but I’m on the list...didn’t get any email at all.

tringle · 19-03-2020 4:00pm

SB1982 wrote: »

I’m not eligible for mobility for another year but I’m on the list...didn’t get any email at all.

Im not eligible either but counting down the daysðŸ˜‚. Must have been specific to our department, was tough on those ready to move in the next few weeks

DarceyEllie · 19-03-2020 7:32pm

the1eyedsnake wrote: »

Has anyone tried applying through Irish Language? or has done it previously?

Yes I was going to apply via the Irish language stream but worried my Irish wouldn't be good enough. Are you fluent ?

Gumbi · 22-03-2020 1:50am

I am also interested in applying for the Irish language position. I am worried that the counties I choose might limit my ability to exploit this extra skill? Or it my interest in the Irish language side evaluated separately?

Anybody know what standard is expect? It says a B2 will be required according to the European self assessment framework. Is that equivalent to the Leaving Cert?

jackreacher · 22-03-2020 10:25pm

Applied now.

Does anyone know where you can practise the aptitude tests?

DarkJ · 22-03-2020 10:37pm

jackreacher wrote: »

Applied now.

Does anyone know where you can practise the aptitude tests?

Try this. Links are at the bottom of the page.

https://www.publicjobs.ie/en/information-hub/our-recruitment-process/test-advice

November Golf · 22-03-2020 11:32pm

jackreacher wrote: »

Applied now.

Does anyone know where you can practise the aptitude tests?

Not sure they are doing aptitude tests time around, or at least the information booklet didnt specify numerical/verbal reasoning was involved.

With the economy going so well, i dont think they were expecting high interest in these roles this time around... of course, that was before the economy collapsed last weekend

tinofapples · 23-03-2020 1:21pm

Mike Foxtrot wrote: »

Not sure they are doing aptitude tests time around, or at least the information booklet didnt specify numerical/verbal reasoning was involved.

With the economy going so well, i dont think they were expecting high interest in these roles this time around... of course, that was before the economy collapsed last weekend

I was gonna post earlier, does anyone else think the ways things have gone over the last few weeks and the inevitable downturn in upcoming months/years this campaign may not be a very active one ? The state is gonna be heavily indebted after all this, don't know is recruitment in the public sector gonna be high on their agenda.

manus35 · 24-03-2020 11:02pm

In the booklet it mentioned interviews / required tests in late April. I'm not sure of the exact wording because I don't now have the booklet. it it seems kind of odd. They will give you that behaviour / personality test,then give you an Order of Merit ,then a possible interview and test. Surely that aptitude test should be done online and before any interview not to waste anyone's time,the tests are useless anyway and don't reflect real life at all !!

Also wondering how the Coronavirus will impact the whole process.On one hand the economy is screwed but then there is increased need for more staff to deal with unemployment and backlog

ge_ch · 25-03-2020 1:27am

manus35 wrote: »

In the booklet it mentioned interviews / required tests in late April. I'm not sure of the exact wording because I don't now have the booklet. it it seems kind of odd. They will give you that behaviour / personality test,then give you an Order of Merit ,then a possible interview and test. Surely that aptitude test should be done online and before any interview not to waste anyone's time,the tests are useless anyway and don't reflect real life at all !!

Also wondering how the Coronavirus will impact the whole process.On one hand the economy is screwed but then there is increased need for more staff to deal with unemployment and backlog

Next step, there will be an online assessment questionnaire (multiple choice and situation based) that should not take more than an hour to complete. Candidates will then be given a panel number and will be called for interview based on this. PAS have confirmed there will be no aptitude tests for this competition.

The_Brood · 25-03-2020 1:43pm

It's sick how little money they offer. Have they no shame? How are people especially in Dublin supposed to survive on such salaries? You'd think the government at least would look to match the salaries they offer, even for lower positions, with the costs of living. Does anyone in this country care for non-high paid workers?

Laura99 · 25-03-2020 2:45pm

The_Brood wrote: »

It's sick how little money they offer. Have they no shame? How are people especially in Dublin supposed to survive on such salaries? You'd think the government at least would look to match the salaries they offer, even for lower positions, with the costs of living. Does anyone in this country care for non-high paid workers?

It's not a bad salary scale for entry level work.

Clerical Officer 2020

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