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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭Jakey Rolling


    YFlyer wrote: »
    How many test have they carried out?

    56?

    100412.2526@compuserve.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    I'd imagine one of the biggest problems the health service will face is an influx of panic-merchants with dry coughs clogging up A&E.

    It’s not ideal but what’s the alternative. Communication needs to be relaid. Retail workers, shop workers, all these type of jobs have pretty strict absentee criteria. People need to be sure. Ultimately, you have to look after yourself. So, people need to have confirmation they have the CV, to avail of income support.

    Our whole society completely devalues the jobs that are the most vulnerable and essential for everyday life. The lad at the till in centra can’t work from home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    I have back pain and usually get Panadol extra in my local pharmacy.

    The pharmacist insisted on solpadeine. I didn't ask. Should have.

    Are they conserving stocks of paracetamol?

    Solpadeine has paracetamol. Maybe they just thought it was better for your problem?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Miike wrote: »
    If you're worried you should contact HSELive on 1850 24 1850 for a telephone screening to determine your risk. They will advise further as required. Get well soon :)

    I don't think your advice is correct. People who suspect that they have symptoms should contact their GP by phone as a first move. Your GP will advise if you should then contact HSE.

    That's my understanding of the advice being given. The GP network has the first screen task and will assess from a list of pre-determined questions that they have been circulated with.

    Full official HSE advice is here - https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/coronavirus.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭Granadino




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,283 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    I'm really surprised at Strazdas. He/she is a poster I've admired for years for being calm, sensible.

    However he/she doesn't seem to be grasping the incubation phase and time lag with this virus at all.

    Also the stance that parades should go ahead. Bringing large congregations into a small area outdoors who will then cram into pubs, restaurants, chippers etc after could only increase the chances of spreading infection.

    My point is that the response should be measured in correlation to risk. I've no issue at all with the parades being cancelled if that is what the HSE decide, ditto if schools are closed soon.

    The Govt here cannot just move straight to nationwide lockdown today without even being able to quantify the risk to the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭PIORUN


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    The Irish Times is too polite to say that plenty of hypochondriacs and other chancers clog up hospitals normally and their F-ing off now that hospitals have a higher perceived risk of infection.
    because now they can be hypochondriacs at home!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭scotchy


    Cupatae wrote: »
    Ive a question... at what point does one go to get tested for coronavirus? Ive had a cough since before the outbreak, but for all i know i could be killing the nation here, ive no other symptoms.. do you get checked? do you wait for it to get worse?? do you need more than one symptom???

    Theres a big hype about it but not much on what to do if you suspect you have it.

    Same here. Near the end of a course of anti biotics, but still have it.

    :confused:

    💙 💛 💙 💛 💙 💛



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    Haven't spent much time here on online in general today or yesterday so apologies if already discussed.

    Does anyone know how many Tests overall have been carried out in Ireland ? We have 24 Positives out of how many ?

    How likely is it that we will have school closures soon ?
    Our Kids' schools are closed this Friday and next Monday anyway.

    I am upset for Italy - such a lovely country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    Miike wrote: »
    Can you tell me what you've taken from this? I dont get the relevance of it

    It can show if you've had cryptic community spread. If you see that there's a genetic link between cases, then you know it's being passed around.

    There are now lots of these clusters of community spread showing up, where a particular mutation is detected in multiple individuals from the same place: e.g. Washington State, Queensland Aus, NSW (Aus), Netherlands etc. That was one of the first signs that the virus had been in Washington State for weeks (also the first cases detected coincided with the first deaths, and a heuristic says that each death in a situation where no control measures have been applied represents ~1k cases).

    You can also see how cases are being spread around the world - e.g. the January cluster in Bavaria is now seen to be a major source of cases in Italy, Switzerland, the Netherlands, and also further afield: the UK, S. America and a recent case in Taiwan.

    If you have enough sequences to work on you can even begin to get a crude estimate of the size of the epidemic that you can then compare with estimates from other data.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,996 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    They could use Stormont as an isolation unit in NI. Its huge and empty most of the time, including now.

    Outdated joke...but nice try


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,511 ✭✭✭harr


    So due to go on family holiday in a couple of months a good chunk paid already where we are going isn’t restricted but we have a child with a serious compromised immune system and our GP and his specialist have advised against travel so looking like we will have to cancel holiday , rang insurance company and they said we aren’t covered as it’s not a new sudden illness that is stopping us .. even though we have letter from hospital and GP .. its money we can’t afford to lose but it’s looking like we have no choice.
    Seriously Pissed off as I taught a medical letter would have been enough to claim insurance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Full info on what to do if you think you have symptoms is here :

    https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/coronavirus.html

    Please look and follow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭flynnlives


    So all the confirmations around the country are about to start.

    Have the church decided on the prudent move to postpone all confirmations that are upcoming?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    gabeeg wrote: »

    yes its already obsolete when it comes to high risk areas.

    They also advise that when you return from one of those areas you don't need to isolate unless you show symptoms, which is negligent advice at best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    harr wrote: »
    So due to go on family holiday in a couple of months a good chunk paid already where we are going isn’t restricted but we have a child with a serious compromised immune system and our GP and his specialist have advised against travel so looking like we will have to cancel holiday , rang insurance company and they said we aren’t covered as it’s not a new sudden illness that is stopping us .. even though we have letter from hospital and GP .. its money we can’t afford to lose but it’s looking like we have no choice.
    Seriously Pissed off as I taught a medical letter would have been enough to claim insurance.

    Surely it's a new risk though? I.e covid-19 didn't exist before 3 ish months ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,810 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Strazdas wrote: »
    My point is that the response should be measured in correlation to risk. I've no issue at all with the parades being cancelled if that is what the HSE decide, ditto if schools are closed soon.

    The Govt here cannot just move straight to nationwide lockdown today without even being able to quantify the risk to the country.

    Ah, you won't get anywhere here with a measured response like that - the lads hitting F5 know better than the UKs Deputy Chief Medical Officer for example, when it comes to risk assessment.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51812326

    Hysteria, overreaction and soundbites are the way to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    Another couple of weeks paid leave for the teachers - they'll be delighted no doubt.

    In trusted boards fashion, never miss an opportunity for a bit of teacher bashing. I actually thought most of your other posts were quite good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    Full info on what to do if you think you have symptoms is here :

    https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/coronavirus.html

    Please look and follow.

    There advice doesn’t make sense. They are basing it off having been in the affected countries. But the disease has been in Ireland for maybe 2 or 3 weeks at this rate. We need locations in the country, the more specific the better. I was on a dart on Friday and a gang of Italian students got out of the next carriage. That’s just one isolated example. Not saying any of them had it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,732 ✭✭✭✭josip


    You've had enough time to put a halt to her visit. Why have you not told her she cannot stay with you?


    Do you have a mother-in-law Pistachio?
    In particular an Italian one?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    flynnlives wrote: »
    So all the confirmations around the country are about to start.

    Have the church decided on the prudent move to postpone all confirmations that are upcoming?

    Some already done - our friends daughter's was last week.

    Good question though. And all the Communions to follow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭reg114


    If the schools close , it means they will have to close creches for the same reason .. alot of people are going to go out of business. If this takes hold we are really looking at a recession in a matter of months. The knock on effects on everyday life will be huge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    Full info on what to do if you think you have symptoms is here :

    https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/coronavirus.html

    Please look and follow.

    I'm just back from Madrid, I have a fever and I'm developing a cough.

    That website has no info that pertains to me. What do I do now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Cw85


    56 in the UK, I can see Ireland having 2-4 again which would be nice and positive and more looking like its very well contained


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Strazdas wrote: »
    My point is that the response should be measured in correlation to risk. I've no issue at all with the parades being cancelled if that is what the HSE decide, ditto if schools are closed soon.

    The Govt here cannot just move straight to nationwide lockdown today without even being able to quantify the risk to the country.

    Just look at what is happening in the other countries who were infected before we were !!!

    giphy.gif


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    flynnlives wrote: »
    So all the confirmations around the country are about to start.

    Have the church decided on the prudent move to postpone all confirmations that are upcoming?

    I think its absolute madness if they go ahead with em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    reg114 wrote: »
    If the schools close , it means they will have to close creches for the same reason .. alot of people are going to go out of business. If this takes hold we are really looking at a recession in a matter of months. The knock on effects on everyday life will be huge.

    Contain it and things will adjust to normal. We were at the end of the business cycle anyway. A recession was inevitable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    bilston wrote: »
    Outdated joke...but nice try

    Gatherings of people will be banned. Stormont MLAs only ever need the slightest excuse to skive off. It will be empty. They are already preparing for it.

    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/coronavirus-stormont-mlas-could-conduct-their-work-at-home-via-video-link-if-crisis-grows-39026845.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    Ah, you won't get anywhere here with a measured response like that - the lads hitting F5 know better than the UKs Deputy Chief Medical Officer for example, when it comes to risk assessment.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51812326

    Hysteria, overreaction and soundbites are the way to go.

    There are no experts on Covid-19. Do you think proper risk assessment was carried out in Italy? The UK will follow in their footsteps. I'm all for measured response but not introducing preventative measures before you half a problem is pure negligence when we have China and now Italy etc for reference.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Cw85 wrote: »
    56 in the UK, I can see Ireland having 2-4 again which would be nice and positive and more looking like its very well contained

    How does it look like its well contained? These cases are infections arising from before we took any action, i.e. Paddys day etc, which are events that hadn't happened yet anyway. Strange logic altogether.


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