Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

Stevieluvsye · 10-03-2020 02:37PM

Bob24 wrote: »

Just heard they tested positive after coming back from a skiing trip in Italy.

Well the government is going to give that advice by the latest Friday anyway, re working from home

nthclare · 10-03-2020 02:38PM

Bob24 wrote: »

Just heard they were back from a skiing trip in Italy.

More than likely they walked through the airport and not a bother to the system.

If people are getting it that easy from ski trips, that part of Italy must be riddled with the virus absolutely rampant.

givyjoe · 10-03-2020 02:39PM

gabeeg wrote: »

The HSE have just updated their list of affected regions.

That is crazy. How many cases are we missing because of this?

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/advice-for-people-returning-from-affected-areas.html

When are they going to add Ireland to that list

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tobefrank321 · 10-03-2020 02:40PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Shutting down a country in itself poses risks to the nation. It could cause fatalities and some people to become unwell.....people being quarantined to this degree is unnatural and unhealthy.

And also people should be careful travelling too far as they might fall off the edge of the world!

You really are the foremost flatearther around here Strazdas.

thomas 123 · 10-03-2020 02:40PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Shutting down a country in itself poses risks to the nation. It could cause fatalities and some people to become unwell.....people being quarantined to this degree is unnatural and unhealthy.

Yeah much worse than lung failure.

If we don’t shut down now this will shut us down anyway.

Sure how many hospitals are cancelling appointments/surgeries already? Seems
Pretty shut down to me.

Strazdas · 10-03-2020 02:41PM

saabsaab wrote: »

If you go back to the earlier threads you will see that an early strong approach would have been correct. God knows what time we have now maybe it is already too late. Hit early and hard!

I was listening to an Italian journalist on R5 saying that even if the country had gone into lockdown a week or ten days earlier, she doubts it would have made much difference.

It's very easy to be wise after the event. Even many scientists were divided on what to do.

completedit · 10-03-2020 02:41PM

It does feel like in this case, a propensity for cynicism and need for rationality is going to come back to bite us. Maybe even our mentality to look at the news as entertainment rather than some5hing that effects us. I am guilty of it myself. I went out last weekend, Friday and Saturday. There was no sense or “No seriously stay put unless otherwise completely necessary” As people have said, The LLS was peddling a “business as usual. Be grand line” I listened to Dave McWilliams podcast from last week and hope I’m not misinterpreting the expert he had on, but he was very understated about the whole thing. One week on, the tone of the podcast was a lot more serious.

Mic 1972 · 10-03-2020 02:41PM

joe40 wrote: »

I think the UK will be a useful indicator of outcomes for ourselves but unfortunately they are only slightly ahead, but so far similar response.
Italy does seem to be somewhat of an outlier in Europe in terms of the magnitude of cases and death they're enduring. I don't know why.
I agree flights from Northern Italy should have been curtailed earlier and self isolation for people returning.
The mid term break saw a lot of people returning, which probably caused a lot of our current problems. This would also have discouraged subsequent trips to that region.

UK has 4.7 infected every 1 million people, we have 4.9
We are slightly ahead, not them
As for Italy having a higher death rate, that happens when hospital capacity has maxed out. People with critical symptoms can't be treated and die

givyjoe · 10-03-2020 02:42PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Shutting down a country in itself poses risks to the nation. It could cause fatalities and some people to become unwell.....people being quarantined to this degree is unnatural and unhealthy.

So is allowing our health system to become overwhelmed before taking the required action, which is unfortunately what's happened in (Lombardy) Italy.

Wibbs · 10-03-2020 02:42PM

banie01 wrote: »

What do we want our Government to do with the headstart they have been grante by dint of fate?

Banie, I've had dealings with a few arms of government and politicians down the years and I hate to say it but the majority are scarily and I do mean scarily ignorant/stupid/uninformed beyond glad handing and the parish pump bollocks that gets them back in to power(that's at the "higher end", local counsellors are more like a room full of special needs people and jobsworths). On that basis we're fooked essentially.

facehugger99 · 10-03-2020 02:42PM

PokeHerKing wrote: »

Your consistent posting/approach is "see that small fire in the kitchen, no reason to think it'll burn the whole house down, let's see how it plays out before trying to put it out"

Unlike the more sensible posters who would just bulldoze the entire house down.

YFlyer · 10-03-2020 02:43PM

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

As an aside - I can't believe there's only 56 cases declared in India. Covid-19 was first confirmed there on Jan 30th. With a population of 1.3billion and a large proportion of the them in squalid living conditions I'd expect it to be a hotbed for spread of this virus.

How many test have they carried out?

tobefrank321 · 10-03-2020 02:43PM

Bob24 wrote: »

Just heard they tested positive after coming back from a skiing trip in Italy.

Please let us know if they are included in official figures later today otherwise there could be under-reporting going on.

Mic 1972 · 10-03-2020 02:43PM

Strazdas wrote: »

I was listening to an Italian journalist on R5 saying that even if the country had gone into lockdown a week or ten days earlier, she doubts it would have made much difference.
It's very easy to be wise after the event. Even many scientists were divided on what to do.

a journalist opinion is what makes you confident?
Lock down is the way to go as seen with countries like China and Singapore taht managed to stop the outbreak
Codongo italy also stopped the outbreak after more than 10 days in lock down, first place in italy to reverse the trend

Ipso · 10-03-2020 02:43PM

Gwan Wuhan.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0310/1121281-coronavirus-world/

Kermit.de.frog · 10-03-2020 02:44PM

gabeeg wrote: »

The HSE have just updated their list of affected regions.

That is crazy. How many cases are we missing because of this?

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/advice-for-people-returning-from-affected-areas.html

They should be testing anyone they can and anyone who wants to be tested, simple as that.

No wonder actual results are in low single daily figures.

Strazdas · 10-03-2020 02:44PM

thomas 123 wrote: »

Yeah much worse than lung failure.

If we don’t shut down now this will shut us down anyway.

Sure how many hospitals are cancelling appointments/surgeries already? Seems
Pretty shut down to me.

A fit and healthy young person can survive a nationwide lockdown without difficulty.

For many others, it could be problematic (even in terms of mental health or for those who are already sick or isolated)

4068ac1elhodqr · 10-03-2020 02:45PM

Uk is forecast to be in Italian type condition within 2wks.
Ireland maybe another few days after this.

hurikane · 10-03-2020 02:45PM

Eliana Uptight Caterpillar wrote: »

I have an interview for a Masters programme in UCC tomorrow. Been in self-chosen isolation since last Wednesday. I'm going to ring the interviewer and ask if they're alright with me rescheduling. Not sure whether or not to bring up the virus and my family details.

Just be honest with them.

Tell them you couldn’t bare the thought of having to tear yourself away from the boards threads.

otnomart · 10-03-2020 02:45PM

gabeeg wrote: »

On a per capita basis, the UK has done many times more testing than we have. They may not be further ahead.

So far, the only two European Countries that have been widespread testing have been UK and Italy (25 K and 50 K respectively).
Seems that the other Countries have been afraid of what they could find - they could have been lucky as the UK in terms of cases, who knows.
An accurate assessment of the situation is key and if you don't test, you can't assess and take informed decisions.

gabeeg · 10-03-2020 02:45PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

They should be testing anyone they can and anyone who wants to be tested, simple as that.

No wonder actual results are in low single daily figures.

And no wonder they all seem to be from Northern Italy.

I can't get my around this. That list was updated this morning. It's the single most important webpage in the entire country, and they've ballsed it up.

Mic 1972 · 10-03-2020 02:45PM

Ipso wrote: »

Gwan Wuhan.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0310/1121281-coronavirus-world/

good on them!
Perfect example of how the outbreak can be stopped - or prevented

completedit · 10-03-2020 02:46PM

It’s a farce, I rang them up, have a headache, been using public transport, was out in town at two big gatherings over the weekend and they won’t test it. Don’t know if I have the flu or not.

Blazer · 10-03-2020 02:46PM

banie01 wrote: »

What do we want our Government to do with the headstart they have been grante by dint of fate?

The government had a headstart 2 weeks ago.... and blew it.

Mic 1972 · 10-03-2020 02:46PM

otnomart wrote: »

So far, the only two European Countries that have been widespread testing have been UK and Italy (25 K and 50 K respectively).
Seems that the other Countries have been afraid of what they could find - they could have been lucky as the UK in terms of cases, who knows.
An accurate assessment of the situation is key and if you don't test, you can't assess and take informed decisions.

France is doing very little testing, it's scary considering how bad the situation is in France

YFlyer · 10-03-2020 02:47PM

Apologies if I don't reply to everyone that replied to me. Forum going fast.

Bob24 · 10-03-2020 02:47PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Please let us know if they are included in official figures later today otherwise there could be under-reporting going on.

I will try but since details are scarce I am not sure I can (I just got the email from the company now, but I don’t know if they might have been tested yesterday and included in previous figures ... and I am not sure the information related to new cases in the media will be enough for me to link them).

givyjoe · 10-03-2020 02:47PM

Strazdas wrote: »

I was listening to an Italian journalist on R5 saying that even if the country had gone into lockdown a week or ten days earlier, she doubts it would have made much difference.

It's very easy to be wise after the event. Even many scientists were divided on what to do.

Wouldn't really give that opinion much weight.

Naggdefy · 10-03-2020 02:47PM

Our problem at the moment is we don't know where the horse is. The Italians took him to France and many other places. He's in Cheltenham apparently.

In Ireland we can't see him at the moment. We're about to lock the stable. He could be in a corner sleeping away and we'll lock him in before he bolts, or he could have bolted a week ago. We should know by Friday.

facehugger99 · 10-03-2020 02:47PM

saabsaab wrote: »

If you go back to the earlier threads you will see that an early strong approach would have been correct.

What do the hysterical earlier threads prove exactly?

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP