Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

Ipso · 10-03-2020 02:25PM

CrankyHaus wrote: »

Better yet, zero accountability for those responsible and taxpayer funded redress scheme for anyone affected, and their lawyers. So we'll all get to pay for the cock up while paying the massive pensions of those who cocked up.

There is accountability every time an election comes around. The party that bankrupted the country could be in government again, Irish people don’t really do accountability.

Cork Boy 53 · 10-03-2020 02:25PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Everyone is giving out about the hse and the government doing nothing but with all these schools and colleges closing and people working from home huge efforts and changes are happening in this country.

All these schools and colleges that are closing and companies enabling their employees to work from home are doing so of their own accord and not by Government directive. Anyway there are indications that that will soon change. Better late than never I suppose.

Stevieluvsye · 10-03-2020 02:26PM

Bob24 wrote: »

So just got an email that 2 employees in my company tested positive after returning from an “affected area”. It says they haven’t been back to the office since coming back - let’s see how the company reacts but I expect a notice to work from home soon.

Where?

gabeeg · 10-03-2020 02:26PM

joe40 wrote: »

I think the UK will be a useful indicator of outcomes for ourselves but unfortunately they are only slightly ahead, but so far similar response.
Italy does seem to be somewhat of an outlier in Europe in terms of the magnitude of cases and death they're enduring. I don't know why.
I agree flights from Northern Italy should have been curtailed earlier and self isolation for people returning.
The mid term break saw a lot of people returning, which probably caused a lot of our current problems. This would also have discouraged subsequent trips to that region.

On a per capita basis, the UK has done many times more testing than we have. They may not be further ahead.

saabsaab · 10-03-2020 02:27PM

jackal wrote: »

Would you give it a rest? Ryanair are not the government or a charity. If and when the government deem flights to be a risk they will tell them to stop. Enough about it already.

Not at all they need to be pressured to do anything. It is just plain logic.

05eaftqbrs9jlh · 10-03-2020 02:28PM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Got an email from UCC yesterday evening and another from the president at a conference for the business school today saying it’s business as usual within the university and they will be checking with the HSE for guidance on what to do.

Wonder how soon the other Unis will follow suit with trinity, especially UCC now considering how close the Bons case is and how most of the cases in cork are from some undetected source

I have an interview for a Masters programme in UCC tomorrow. Been in self-chosen isolation since last Wednesday. I'm going to ring the interviewer and ask if they're alright with me rescheduling. Not sure whether or not to bring up the virus and my family details.

bekker · 10-03-2020 02:28PM

An analysis of publicly available data on infections from the new coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, that causes the respiratory illness COVID-19 yielded an estimate of 5.1 days for the median disease incubation period, according to a new study led by researchers at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. This median time from exposure to onset of symptoms suggests that the 14-day quarantine period used by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for individuals with likely exposure to the coronavirus is reasonable.

The analysis suggests that about 97.5 percent of people who develop symptoms of SARS-CoV-2 infection will do so within 11.5 days of exposure. The researchers estimated that for every 10,000 individuals quarantined for 14 days, only about 101 would develop symptoms after being released from quarantine.

Source: Johns Hopkins University {cf https://neurosciencenews.com/covid-19-incubation-period-15883/}

PaybackPayroll · 10-03-2020 02:28PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Risk of contamination.

Contamination from what? - I thought the stuff sanitises stuff.
I suppose you got to weigh up the risks.

DrumSteve · 10-03-2020 02:28PM

Eliana Uptight Caterpillar wrote: »

I have an interview for a Masters programme in UCC tomorrow. Been in self-chosen isolation since last Wednesday. I'm going to ring the interviewer and ask if they're alright with me rescheduling. Not sure whether or not to bring up the virus and my family details.

I think they will be OK with potentially not catching the virus.

Spanish Eyes · 10-03-2020 02:30PM

Wondering about the GAA Allianz league matches at the weekend.

Dubs v Meath in Croker for example. Will GAA self isolate ��

Bob24 · 10-03-2020 02:30PM

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Where?

Company has multiple locations in Ireland, they didn’t specify which one.

nthclare · 10-03-2020 02:30PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I just heard today that Poland have 17 cases. In preparation for a worst case scenario they have started stopping cars entering Poland from Germany, Slovakia and Czech Rep and testing people at the border. They have also erected large marquee type units in case their A and E become overwhelmed.

They're probably more organised and more than likely they're conscientious about their people.

Unlike the show must go on gombeenism you'll get here, ah sure it'll only effect certain ages and people who have underlying health issues.
We're an Island nation no need to panic.

In layman's terms let the weak and frail get it, and the rest will be fine.

Basically people in responsible positions more than likely psychopaths and npd's held in high regard by the minions.
No doubt there's people reading these posts grinning and getting off on the chaos.

The types of people who resort to asking people on these threads is everything ok, or wtf are you on about....

MuffinsDa · 10-03-2020 02:30PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Nobody is saying "we'll be grand". By all means plan for a worst case scenario, but that doesn't mean you have the implement a worst case scenario strategy as your very first port of call.

Given that our case numbers are low, we still have enough time to weigh up our options ; the Govt could switch to a worse case scenario rapidly if they need to.

This is blatantly incorrect and dangerous. By not acting for what appears to be a "certain" scenario rather than worst case, any further action will be made redundant. This has probably been already posted here but take a look -
why it's better to panic early:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Kga5HeAqk

Drumpot · 10-03-2020 02:31PM

KWAG2019 wrote: »

Even stronger action may be needed sooner: this from A&E consultant in Northern Italy via consultant in London.

https://twitter.com/jasonvanschoor/status/1237142891077697538?s=21

Jesus, thats harrowing, is it legitimately confirmed doctor ?

PokeHerKing · 10-03-2020 02:31PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Nobody is saying "we'll be grand". By all means plan for a worst case scenario, but that doesn't mean you have the implement a worst case scenario strategy as your very first port of call.

Given that our case numbers are low, we still have enough time to weigh up our options ; the Govt could switch to a worse case scenario rapidly if they need to.

Your consistent posting/approach is "see that small fire in the kitchen, no reason to think it'll burn the whole house down, let's see how it plays out before trying to put it out"

Strazdas · 10-03-2020 02:32PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Wondering about the GAA Allianz league matches at the weekend.

Dubs v Meath in Crocker for example. Will GAA self isolate ��

Latest is that the Govt will issue recommendations for indoor and outdoor events by Thursday.

gabeeg · 10-03-2020 02:33PM

The HSE have just updated their list of affected regions.

Places where there is spread of coronavirus

China
Hong Kong
Singapore
South Korea
Iran
Japan
Italy

That is crazy. How many cases are we missing because of this?

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/advice-for-people-returning-from-affected-areas.html

facehugger99 · 10-03-2020 02:33PM

joe40 wrote: »

"
Station eleven" no zombies or even that much fighting, but I really enjoyed it

Yes, forgot about that one - excellent novel.

Rob A. Bank · 10-03-2020 02:33PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Nobody is saying "we'll be grand". By all means plan for a worst case scenario, but that doesn't mean you have the implement a worst case scenario strategy as your very first port of call.

Given that our case numbers are low, we still have enough time to weigh up our options ; the Govt could switch to a worse case scenario rapidly if they need to.

LOL That "we'll be grand" is exactly what you have been saying for the last month !

The effect of what we do today will only be apparent in one or two weeks time.

I fear that by that time we will be on the exponential curve upwards of daily cases.

Horse - stable door - bolted - about a week or two ago

banie01 · 10-03-2020 02:33PM

KWAG2019 wrote: »

Even stronger action may be needed sooner: this from A&E consultant in Northern Italy via consultant in London.

https://twitter.com/jasonvanschoor/status/1237142891077697538?s=21

Jesus H Christ!

That twitter thread if accurate, makes for very, very sobering reading.
Particularly the triage!
If I was in Lombardy with a severe case of Covid-19 at the moment, knowing that as a relatively fit, 40yo male...

That due to my co-morbidities I would be left without intubation, ventilation or ICU support is terrifying.

What do we want our Government to do with the headstart they have been grante by dint of fate?

galwaynative · 10-03-2020 02:33PM

Eliana Uptight Caterpillar wrote: »

I have an interview for a Masters programme in UCC tomorrow. Been in self-chosen isolation since last Wednesday. I'm going to ring the interviewer and ask if they're alright with me rescheduling. Not sure whether or not to bring up the virus and my family details.

contact them and explain circumstance and perhaps they could arrange a skype interview? If you have reason to be in isolation please do not turn up at UCC, nobody would want that risk!

jobeenfitz · 10-03-2020 02:35PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Loads of factors come into play : environment, temperature, weather, proximity of people living near to each other, basic hygiene, cultural customs, the state of the local health service and so on.

You cannot just extrapolate that what happens in one region will happen in another region of another country 1500 miles away.

Maybe not. Can't say it won't happen or we might be eventually worse. We need to be looking at what Italy done a week or twoago and be way more cautious in our decisions.

Strazdas · 10-03-2020 02:35PM

PokeHerKing wrote: »

Your consistent posting/approach is "see that small fire in the kitchen, no reason to think it'll burn the whole house down, let's see how it plays out before trying to put it out"

Shutting down a country in itself poses risks to the nation. It could cause fatalities and some people to become unwell.....people being quarantined to this degree is unnatural and unhealthy.

KWAG2019 · 10-03-2020 02:35PM

Drumpot wrote: »

Jesus, thats harrowing, is it legitimately confirmed doctor ?

Link was posted by an Irish GP. Von Schoor is listed on UCL website with same picture as described. No blue twitter tick. We each make our own call on it.

ArchXStanton · 10-03-2020 02:35PM

bekker wrote: »

North, South, East, West - and there was I believing we were citizens, not subjects. Those paid by us to administer the country on our behalf believe that they have some divine right to treat us as mushrooms - keep in dark and apply ****.

That old social contract between government and people died a long time ago here...

Funsterdelux · 10-03-2020 02:36PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Wondering about the GAA Allianz league matches at the weekend.

Dubs v Meath in Croker for example. Will GAA self isolate ��

Hopefully the dubs will and give meath some sympathy points

Volthar · 10-03-2020 02:36PM

Meanwhile in Poland, one of the major cities will close all schools and creches for 2 weeks in an attempt to stop the Covid-19 spread. They have also cancelled all mass gatherings, festivals and whatnot. AFAIK they only have 1 confirmed case in that city.

Bob24 · 10-03-2020 02:36PM

Bob24 wrote: »

So just got an email that 2 employees in my company tested positive after returning from an “affected area”. It says they haven’t been back to the office since coming back - let’s see how the company reacts but I expect a notice to work from home soon.

Just heard they tested positive after coming back from a skiing trip in Italy.

Stevieluvsye · 10-03-2020 02:36PM

KWAG2019 wrote: »

Link was posted by an Irish GP. Von Schoor is listed on UCL website with same picture as described. No blue twitter tick. We each make our own call on it.

Doctors don't get blue ticks

saabsaab · 10-03-2020 02:37PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Nobody is saying "we'll be grand". By all means plan for a worst case scenario, but that doesn't mean you have the implement a worst case scenario strategy as your very first port of call.

Given that our case numbers are low, we still have enough time to weigh up our options ; the Govt could switch to a worse case scenario rapidly if they need to.

If you go back to the earlier threads you will see that an early strong approach would have been correct. God knows what time we have now maybe it is already too late. Hit early and hard!

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP