Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

Strazdas · 09-03-2020 03:48PM

dan786 wrote: »

There you go...

The Cabinet sub-committee dealing with the coronavirus has decided to cancel the St Patrick's Day Parade in Dublin.

One wonders if the actual four day festival can go ahead (a series of cultural events spread right across the city....presumably far less of a health risk).

Rob A. Bank · 09-03-2020 03:48PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Overall deaths across the planet are less than 4000. It's way too soon to be making projections of hundreds of thousands or millions of fatalities. The virus could go into decline long before that ever happens.

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New Home · 09-03-2020 03:48PM

el Fenomeno wrote: »

There are no casualties from those under 9. Doesn't necessarily mean they are immune.

To be honest, we don't know. Yesterday Italy reported one death in the age group 0-49. There was one infant in ICU in Lombardy as of last week (albeit with previous conditions). There's nothing to confirm or disproof it wasn't her.

flynnlives · 09-03-2020 03:49PM

Trump is going to be responsible for thousands of US Deaths as well as ensuring that this virus will eventually go global and never be eradicated.

Even if all the other countries in the world manage to contain this the shambolic Trump admin will ensure it will spread again outside the US

JP Liz V1 · 09-03-2020 03:49PM

recyclebin wrote: »

Cork parade is cancelled

About time

Cuckoo7 · 09-03-2020 03:49PM

citysights wrote: »

Did I read somewhere it was kids under nine who had immunity? Are they sure if this?

There have been cases reported of children as young as 4 (that I recall) showing symptoms.

gozunda · 09-03-2020 03:49PM

citysights wrote: »

Did I read somewhere it was kids under nine who had immunity? Are they sure if this?

No. Kids do not have 'immunity'. Babies, toddlers and young children can all be infected. Currently there have been no deaths in the 0-9 age group. However some children in China were found to have developed asymptomatic pneumonia when CT scanned.

Children are also recognised as 'super spreaders' of a number of infectious diseases.

tobefrank321 · 09-03-2020 03:49PM

Strazdas wrote: »

The point is that Wuhan and Bologna have not been replicated all over the place. People are putting two and two together and coming up with fifty : assuming there will be thousands of fatalities in every country where CV appears.

Well the point I would make is every country where CV struck or even before it struck, the governments said we don't envisage a problem, we have modern healthcare, etc.

I remember a couple of months ago some people saying it could never spread in Ireland like it does in China because China still has poor health infrastructure unlike us.

Guess what, China have already turned the corner, and its us who have the poor health infrastructure.

China could build a hospital in 12 days. The same hospital would take 12 years here. You can't stick CV patients in with non CV patients in an ordinary hospital, as you spread it even more to vulnerable patients and also to staff, as we saw in Cork.

So yes, Italy, Iran, US, Spain, Ireland, UK, they never thought it would be as bad as China. This complacence has cost us big time. We didn't even bother to stop flights from red zones, because we thought we were largely immune to it. Madness.

09-03-2020 03:49PM

citysights wrote: »

Did I read somewhere it was kids under nine who had immunity? Are they sure if this?

Nobody is immune to it. Children don't seem to be showing symptoms to the same degree as other age groups but they can get the virus and can pass it on.

JP Liz V1 · 09-03-2020 03:50PM

stockshares wrote: »

To put things in perspective.

From Worldometers website

CLOSED CASES
66,581

Cases which had an outcome:
62,695 (94%) Recovered / Discharged

3,886 (6%)Dead

So up to now there is a 6% chance of death if you catch it.

Hector Savage wrote: »

And most of those deaths were in Wuhan

Italy has a high death rate too

frillyleaf · 09-03-2020 03:51PM

flynnlives wrote: »

Trump is going to be responsible for thousands of US Deaths as well as ensuring that this virus will eventually go global and never be eradicated.

Even if all the other countries in the world manage to contain this the shambolic Trump admin will ensure it will spread again outside the US

Why do you think this ?

Tootsie_1 · 09-03-2020 03:51PM

dan786 wrote: »

There you go...

The Cabinet sub-committee dealing with the coronavirus has decided to cancel the St Patrick's Day Parade in Dublin.

It says "should be" cancelled not that it is cancelled....

Heighway61 · 09-03-2020 03:51PM

Next doors kids and my kids off to school this morning on the same school bus to the same school.

Was just talking to the neighbour over the fence just now and they were in Disney Paris for the weekend.

With the outbreak at Disneyland just announced would you keep your kids home from school?

Strazdas · 09-03-2020 03:51PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

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You can claim that 3.5m will contract the virus within 4 weeks and nobody will be able to contradict you. It's open season for ever alarmist in the country.

Boggles · 09-03-2020 03:51PM

flynnlives wrote: »

Trump is going to be responsible for thousands of US Deaths as well as ensuring that this virus will eventually go global and never be eradicated.

Even if all the other countries in the world manage to contain this the shambolic Trump admin will ensure it will spread again outside the US

Even by Trump standards he is having the mother of all breakdowns on Twitter today.

They might have to section him.

Satturnfalls · 09-03-2020 03:52PM

Why wont they just cancel it. **** it peoples health is more important than money

Kaisr Sose · 09-03-2020 03:52PM

Snow Garden wrote: »

Great. People can stop obsessing about it.

We're saved!

Only if Cheltenham falls too!

Fr_Dougal · 09-03-2020 03:52PM

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1237027356314869761?s=21

Oh thank god.

09-03-2020 03:53PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Cheltenham to go ahead, even though a new case in Gloss Test Sure

Gloss ter

Kermit.de.frog · 09-03-2020 03:53PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1237027356314869761?s=21

Oh thank god.

A complete lunatic.

Boggles · 09-03-2020 03:53PM

Heighway61 wrote: »

Next doors kids and my kids off to school this morning on the same school bus to the same school.

Was just talking to the neighbour over the fence just now and they were in Disney Paris for the weekend.

With the outbreak at Disneyland just announced would you keep your kids home from school?

It wasn't an outbreak, it was a 1 maintenance worker who had no contact with the public.

Drumpot · 09-03-2020 03:53PM

fr336 wrote: »

Are you not a little worried about Germany and France? A pattern is emerging...maybe it won't be as quick as Italy, but...

Supposedly we have to wait until it gets a certain amount bad before making big decisions.

A lot of science experts have to tow a certain line when communicating information to the public. Watch any WHO conference and you will hear different governments cherry pick the parts they want to follow. Since January WHO have Been telling governments to prepare themselves and their countries for this. Most haven’t bothered doing much population education until cases started showing up.

What I take from WHO conferences is that they lay out what they think is best and then instead of having a go at country’s not doing enough they praise the countries that are being proactive and repeat the message that it’s not too late to get your sh*t together. They praised Italy for finally doing what must be done, they aren’t praising the rest of Europe , they are warning them in a manner that these countries can ignore and pretend “they aren’t talking about us”.

If we can only test 40-100 (?) a day and it’s taking up to 36 hours for results we are actually over a day behind the results we are getting. Couple this with our already under resources healthcare system and I would argue that we need to be 2 steps ahead in our decisions to make up (or compensate) for our limited capacity in these areas.

flynnlives · 09-03-2020 03:54PM

frillyleaf wrote: »

Why do you think this ?

Community transmission is probably rampant now in the US. But we dont know cause of the lack of testing and shambolic response.
So in say 6 months time even if we get control of it, the virus will still be able to get here and elsewhere becasue of flights to and from the US.

Many Trumptards still think this is a hoax and or just a cold. Also locking down US cities is never going to happen.

fin12 · 09-03-2020 03:54PM

Why couldn’t they have held cheltenham behind closed doors, people could still bet online and watch on tv.

otnomart · 09-03-2020 03:54PM

Just looking back at the recent timeline:
23 February: Italy had done 3000 tests and found 132 positives
Lockdown starts for the epicentres, population 50000 people, with police and army check points
4 March: approx 2700 positives - Italy closes schools and universities

France and Germany today have well over 1000 cases each and still no lockdown of their epicentres, what are they sleepwalking into ?

fr336 · 09-03-2020 03:54PM

If schools close maybe parents could look after their children rather than palming them off to at risk grandparents.

amor3 · 09-03-2020 03:55PM

I am literally 2 minutes away from a creche that was closed yesterday because a worker's mother is a suspected case. My kids go to school with students that go to the afterschool of said creche. Too close to home (literally) now!

circadian · 09-03-2020 03:55PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1237027356314869761?s=21

Oh thank god.

If you need any more proof that he doesn't care about citizens and only the stock market.

cnocbui · 09-03-2020 03:55PM

Wuhan doctor, ex-colleague of Coronavirus whistleblower Li Wenliang, also dies

The retired doctor from Wuhan, who used to work with Coronavirus whistleblower Li Wenliang passed away on Monday

Zhu Heping was a doctor from the ophthalmology department at Wuhan Central Hospital

Updated March 9, 2020 19:33 +08

...

It should be noted that Zhu was a colleague of Li Wenliang, who died on February 7 at the age of 33. Li was the first doctor who raised the alarm about a lurking outbreak in Wuhan in the early stages.

The 67-year-old Zhu was an expert who was invited back to the Wuhan Central Hospital after his retirement.

https://www.ibtimes.sg/wuhan-doctor-ex-colleague-coronavirus-whistleblower-li-wenliang-dies-covid-19-40720

I think this rather indicates the figures coming out of China are a bit ify.

darjeeling · 09-03-2020 03:55PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Overall deaths across the planet are less than 4000. It's way too soon to be making projections of hundreds of thousands or millions of fatalities. The virus could go into decline long before that ever happens.

The projections are based on what we do about it.

Do nothing, and a very high % will be infected during the epidemic because this is moderately infective and so won't stop spreading until ~40% - ~70% of people have acquired immunity, which none of us have right now.

If instead we make lots of interventions - at the personal level (hygiene, social contacts, self-isolation), medically (quick diagnosis, isolation of patients) and at the state level (restricting gatherings, movement when necessary) - then the do-nothing case projections will not come to pass.

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP