Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

namloc1980 · 08-03-2020 09:58PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

So after a handful of cases how many medical staff are out of action now in Ireland?

So there's 100 in CUH and another 75 in Limerick. Bound to be another big number in the Bons in Cork after today's confirmation

is_that_so · 08-03-2020 09:58PM

STB. wrote: »

He is not a random person. He has identified himself. His name is Daniele Macchini, He is a surgeon at a totally overwhelmed hospital in Northern Italy. As reported on Sky Italy.

https://tg24.sky.it/cronaca/2020/03/08/coronavirus-italia-facebook-daniele-macchini.html

The reason he did it is because some people are complaining about the effects on their everyday abilities to go to football practice etc or refusing to understand the seriousness of what is going on. Does that sound familiar to you ???????

Italy were in the same boat as Ireland a few weeks back. Now they are fighting a health epidemic.

FFS.

I don't think we'd respond that way at all. We are generally good little soldiers. If we have to go that route, doubtful IMO, I think we'd accept it.

Call Me Jimmy · 08-03-2020 09:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The new outbreak in Hanoi is just down the road. Eight foreigners have it now and they flew from England so it's likely to go around the places I usually be at. Small city in terms of where foreigners go.

Some colleagues have a friend here who spent five days with two people who were a few seats behind the woman who brought it here from Italy. She's facing five to twelve years for manslaughter if anyone she gave it to dies.

Did you buy the numbers there before these people brought it on? Did your school go back at all or did you get put into stricter conditions?

08-03-2020 09:59PM

New Home wrote: »

Found it. The total number of tests carried out in Italy as of 6PM local time today was 49937. On top of the 7375 cases in Italy, there are also 36 cases in San Marino and 1 in the Vatican.

Added a bit.

This makes me fume - they're old, so they don't matter as much, is that it?

The reported death count for today was:

1 person in the 0-49 age bracket;
1 person in the 50-59 age bracket;
14 people in the 60-69 age bracket;
39 people in the 70-79 age bracket;
60 people in the 80-89 age bracket;
18 people over 90.

As for the "dispute" on the reported/unreported cases is, could it be that they've been recorded but not yet disclosed? If you take Italy as an example, the number went up by over 1300 yesterday (or was it Friday? I'm losing count) because they said that some of the cases from a specific area had not been previously reported/disclosed. There's nothing to say that something similar mightn't be happening here.

My mam is in that bracket and I have to mind her for a week from Paddy's day. Will be going on lockdown myself. Have to go into work unfortunately, but other than that its a lockdown for me personally. One of the tips of that Bergamo doctor was going to the shops when it was quiet, so if that means nipping down a few minutes before closing, thats fine.

odyssey06 · 08-03-2020 09:59PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Like the 1.9 million claim from another source, I see no proof in any of the speculation.

It's not speculation, or scare-mongering.

It's not proof that there will be 1.9 million cases, but there is proof that HSE have models showing that up to 1.9 million people could be infected:
https://www.businesspost.ie/health/irish-health-authorities-predict-19m-people-will-fall-ill-with-coronavirus-701e4838

The head of the HSE does not dispute those figures:
https://www.thejournal.ie/hse-chief-cant-dispute-1-9-million-5037746-Mar2020/

expectationlost · 08-03-2020 09:59PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

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as a result of the doc?

dxhound2005 · 08-03-2020 10:00PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

Please let us know if there is any testing conducted whatsoever.

Please, please let them at least use a temperature monitor.

I'd say on a Sunday night there would not be too many staff around. And with nearly every country in the world having cases, it would make sense to check everyone. Having passengers waiting around for hours for testing, could run the risk of "clean" people picking it up from mingling with infected people.

Kermit.de.frog · 08-03-2020 10:00PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

So there's 100 in CUH and another 75 in Limerick. Bound to be another big number in the Bons in Cork after today's confirmation

Not looking great, is it?

gabeeg · 08-03-2020 10:00PM

Miike wrote: »

They are not 'my' lists of anything. The important take home from the guidelines are that there is set criteria and the affected areas will be ever changing on a daily basis. When the guidelines references an 'affected area' I would be looking at WHO SitReps for up-to-date information concerning those. I hope this clears things up

Kind of. what you posted is really troubling.

If they're meeting on a daily basis and what you're showing me is the outcome of those meetings - our very latest criteria - then we're in a terrible state

Miike · 08-03-2020 10:00PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

So after a handful of cases how many medical staff are out of action now in Ireland?

I would posit this is highlighting how the case definitions need to be broadened significantly in the interest of maintaining our meek health service.

Beanybabog · 08-03-2020 10:01PM

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/coronavirus-brave-volunteers-can-earn-17886474

Coronavirus: Brave volunteers can earn over €4,000 by taking part in vaccine trial

Not a chance I’d do this

ChikiChiki · 08-03-2020 10:01PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

So after a handful of cases how many medical staff are out of action now in Ireland?

175 my count

STB. · 08-03-2020 10:01PM

[QUOTE=Miike;112767542]

In those guidelines you will see that fever isn't a requirement of testing but it's based on a whole host of differential presentations that we now know the disease can present with.[/QUOTE]

Well Miike, I have heard first hand how kids who came back from Italy and were worried etc were being considered/or not considered for testing.

The simple matter is there may not be any immediate symptoms. This very testing regime did not work in Italy and has them were they are. It's long finger testing, telling people to go home and isolate, if they believe they have been in contact or in a region, only for them to return when they cannot breathe and have infected their family and community.

"differential presentations" my backside. We are copying other peoples mistakes. Thats why it is now in communities and traceability isn't worth a curse.

is_that_so wrote: »

I don't think we'd respond that way at all. We are generally good little soldiers. If we have to go that route, doubtful IMO, I think we'd accept it.

The guy I responded to thinks its all a big joke. Head in the sand stuff.

touts · 08-03-2020 10:01PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

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Isn't there a slight flaw in the idea of isolating 60 or 70 medical staff every time someone with this virus walks into a hospital. With the Sunday Business Post reporting an expected 1.9 million cases we would need around 140 million trained doctors and nurses. Surely they realise that the 135 medical staff they isolated in just two hospitals in the last few days have **** all chance of getting to the end of this two weeks isolation period before they are recalled to deal with the influx of actually sick people.

is_that_so · 08-03-2020 10:02PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

So there's 100 in CUH and another 75 in Limerick. Bound to be another big number in the Bons in Cork after today's confirmation

I saw somewhere that some of them are back working but being tested twice a day. The Bon Secours is only 2.

SwordsRunner · 08-03-2020 10:02PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

Please let us know if there is any testing conducted whatsoever.

Please, please let them at least use a temperature monitor.

Just to be clear: I am not on that plane. I just took a screenshot from the app.

Miike · 08-03-2020 10:02PM

gabeeg wrote: »

Kind of. what you posted is really troubling.

If they're meeting on a daily basis and what you're showing me is the outcome of those meetings - our very latest criteria - then we're in a terrible state

I'm saying the guidelines for definitions will not change as much as or as quickly as a list of affected areas, and as such, I personally would find my list of affected areas from an international body.

Call Me Jimmy · 08-03-2020 10:02PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

So after a handful of cases how many medical staff are out of action now in Ireland?

Hopefully we won't see numbers like that happening with more experience and awareness. God knows we can't afford too many anyway

Lashes28 · 08-03-2020 10:03PM

2 new cases

177 healthcare workers on lockdown

touts · 08-03-2020 10:03PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

175 my count

Insanity. We will run out of medical staff by mid week at this rate. But at least all out medical staff will be safe wrapped up at home in case there is a pandemic of a killer virus and we need them back at work. Oh wait.....

caveat emptor · 08-03-2020 10:03PM

Miike wrote: »

(For those of you who have been reading my posts thus far, I'm sorry you have to see me continuously repeating myself. I would just like as many people as possible to get as informed as possible when it comes to this topic. It's quite important in my honest opinion.)

Testing is done on a case definition basis. The case definitions we are currently working under in Ireland (under Phase 1) are guided by ECDC Guidelines and HPSC Guidelines which can both be found here . I would also like to just briefly highlight these case definitions and criteria are both not absolute, they are dynamic and under constant review by all bodies. Given that 2 new cases of community transmission, we would hope this will now broaden the scope of testing criteria in light of that evidence.

In those guidelines you will see that fever isn't a requirement of testing but it's based on a whole host of differential presentations that we now know the disease can present with.

When did this community transmission occur?

It seems as though HSE is using a number of tactics to play for time for whatever reason.

GDPR..... A man in the east. That is next to useless when there are near real-time accurate updates via other channels. We are an island and news travels.
Testing time turn around. Why has this increase massively over the weekend?
Strategically releasing actual cases days after they've been confirmed. Usually at night when supermarkets have closed.

I get there is a need to manage panic but people are complacent thus potentially unaware of spreading the disease further.

It seems as though the net effect of these tactics are ensures widespread community transmission so that economy is not hit as hard. If everyone has it, may as well watch cheltenham in the pub, bet a fortune, got to the parade.

owlbethere · 08-03-2020 10:04PM

Is there any update about the family of 4 from Clare? Anybody on the forums local to them and know?

Is it true that al 4 of them tested positive to the virus but only one of them showed symptoms?

Would this be some sort of a key for fighting this virus? Their bodies were fighting this new virus that was going silent in them.

Taking the couple from the ship David and Sally Abel, they pulled through with ease and there were under quarantine in their room, resting and then they went to hospital where there were well looked after in Japan.

What do people think about this? Would the key here be perhaps rest while your body fights this off? If it's going silent in the body, you don't know you have it. You would probably go around your normal day not knowing you have it.

Didn't the ships outcome have some positive results?

Some experts have said that this virus has taken over even young adults and they don't know why. They are baffled.

Signore Fancy Pants · 08-03-2020 10:04PM

SwordsRunner wrote: »

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15 minutes from Dublin right now.

Seamus.....SEEAAAMMMUUUSSSSS!!!!

Get da big stick!! Da 'talian planes are comin' again!

An Ri rua · 08-03-2020 10:06PM

YFlyer wrote: »

If washing powder or washing liquid run out. One can use urine for washing clothes.

From my occasional experience of Dublin public transport, many already do.

Speak Now · 08-03-2020 10:06PM

Beanybabog wrote: »

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/coronavirus-brave-volunteers-can-earn-17886474

Coronavirus: Brave volunteers can earn over €4,000 by taking part in vaccine trial

Not a chance I’d do this

I'm in if I can have the placebo

Itssoeasy · 08-03-2020 10:07PM

There are now 500 cases in the United States.

RandomName2 · 08-03-2020 10:07PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

It seems as though the net effect of these tactics are ensures widespread community transmission so that economy is not hit as hard. If everyone has it, may as well watch cheltenham in the pub, bet a fortune, got to the parade.

I have assumed as much since they told people coming back from infected regions to go to back to school and work, and prohibited testing expect where there were observable symptoms, and deliberately didn't monitor anybody who may be a possible carrier.

It's just made a bit more obvious with the parades not being cancelled. Not sure why they bothered with the rugby match to be honest.

Cody montana · 08-03-2020 10:07PM

Went into town today.
Thinking about it afterwards.
I touched the ticket button for the car park, opened several shop doors, used escalators and used card machines.

It’s unavoidable.

wirelessdude01 · 08-03-2020 10:07PM

So the person in the Bons was admitted on the 25th of February. Wait for the cluster to be announced based on this.

jojofizzio · 08-03-2020 10:08PM

Fergal Bowers Looking kind of shoo on the news.....hope he’s ok

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP