Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

sdanseo wrote: »

When the post-mortem (apologies for the morbid pun) is done on the response to this crisis, there will be a clear winner. China, despite causing the whole thing, will be lauded as having cracked down hard and prevented spread.

Europe, Ireland included, will be villified as caught on the hop, too slow to respond, and not taking the threat seriously. Compounded by continuing to do so once they realised it was too late for containment.

Who will be dong the judging. America and Africa?

according to this website China has only had 80,000 cases for a population of 1 Billion - Why are we expecting around 40% infecions when China where the number of infections are now reducing daily only had 80,000 , given the poplulation of Wuhan the epi -centre is 11 million.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

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The true infected rate is now believed to be almost 1000 on the island of Ireland.

Computer Science Student wrote: »

The true infected rate is now believed to be almost 1000 on the island of Ireland.

Thanks for generating a new random number

Deleted User wrote: »

And according to this, they do daily bloods if delivered there by 10am. I thought my hospital was doing the testing as we had a negative result in under 7 hours.
https://nvrl.ucd.ie/node/209

Honestly, people like you are a disaster for misinformation in these kinds of situations. So sure of the truth and then when called on it just switch to another story.

and yet this

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1236663706999758848?s=20

Pretzill wrote: »

I have a GP appointment tomorrow - (it's neccessary...otherwise I wouldn't go) Anyone think it would be rude to ring them from the carpark and ask they ring me back when the Doctor is ready for me? I'm going to try my best to limit my time in public now...at least until we get clear directives about this epidemic. There are some needed appointments to attend in the coming weeks but I'm going to take every preventative measure I can to limit contact with this...however, today I have a bad chest and a slight cough. I'm just hoping it's not already here...I mean how do any of us know we haven't been in contact with this already...how often do any of us catch a cold?

I'm getting fed up of being told not to panic and then on Sunday we hear projections of 1.9 million sufferers - Crisis, What Crisis?

Pseudonym121, a hospital consultant, said they were already recommending waiting in cars to their patients.

thebaz wrote: »

according to this website China has only had 80,000 cases for a population of 1 Billion - Why are we expecting around 40% infecions when China where the number of infections are now reducing daily only had 80,000 , given the poplulation of Wuhan the epi -centre is 11 million.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Because 11 million people in Wuhan have not left their appartments in 2 months? Can't see that happening here..

sdanseo wrote: »

When the post-mortem (apologies for the morbid pun) is done on the response to this crisis, there will be a clear winner. China, despite causing the whole thing, will be lauded as having cracked down hard and prevented spread.

Europe, Ireland included, will be villified as caught on the hop, too slow to respond, and not taking the threat seriously. Compounded by continuing to do so once they realised it was too late for containment.

They could admit they were wrong tomorrow and it won't save them. The ECDC and WHO guidelines dictate most EU countries response here and they are going to cause untold devastation even if deaths are only 0.1%.
China fúcked up but their response was magnificent. The west stuck its head in the sand.

It remains to be seen can they get people back to work. I've heard some indication that places like Shanghai are getting back to normal in the last week but I'd imagine when they are really firinig on all cylinders we'll hear about it.

lostatsea wrote: »

The most important number, in terms of controlling this virus, is the number of Active cases. In China, this number has been falling for a number of weeks. The Active cases number is calculated by subtracting the Recovered cases and Deaths from Confirmed Cases. It was reported yesterday there were no new cases of the virus in Hubei province outside Wuhan. In many provinces around China, the number of Active cases is now in very low numbers (0--50) having had confirmed cases in the hundreds.

Media outlets are concentrating on the number of Confirmed cases whereas the number of Active cases is a better indicator of our ability to control this virus. My most recent visit to the website shows the following numbers worldwide:

I don't think there's any fault to your logic here in terms of numbers and chronology, but you're discounting the fact that China is a very different country with a very different government, and that the CCP have taken several draconian measures to reach the levels of containment they've reached.

In affected Chinese provinces, public areas are still being disinfected pretty much constantly. And they're empty, because every household has one "pass" that allows one person to leave their home once every three days to get essential provisions. The penalties for breaking quarantine are severe. Doors have been welded closed to ensure compliance. People suspected of having Covid-19, who may well have no more than a common cold, have been dragged off into quarantine where they are much more likely to actually get it.

I don't see any Western government attempting these measures, let alone doing so with any success. And that's why I think the spread in European countries and the USA will continue on without seeing the same dip until so many people have been infected that herd immunity starts to have a protective effect or a vaccine is produced.

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

They've been in isolation since Thursday? With an incubation period of up to 14 days.

I know breaking their own guidelines. Don't what's going on, are those not showing ok to go back to work and they have 100 now in iso or is everyone still in iso

gabeeg wrote: »

Funerals have been suspended in Italy.

Think about this for a second. Your loved one gets sick. Then gets very sick. You call the hospital. They send an ambulance. You're not allowed to go with him/her because of the risk of virus spreading and basic capacity. You rush a goodbye. Then nothing. You ring frequently to try to find out how he/she is doing, but never get any info other than he/she is still being treated. A few days pass and you get a phone call. He/she got pneumonia and passed away. They are not releasing the body and can't say if they ever will.

Heartbreaking.

It has happened already in the UK... The family said they were unable to arrange a funeral for him because they were self-isolating.

"This whole nightmare is not something that we or our loved one asked for...

"As we are in isolation currently, we cannot arrange for him to be put to rest, and with all the activity that is going around with regards to everyone's concerns, we cannot grieve him as we would wish to."

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51784498

spookwoman wrote: »

and yet this

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1236663706999758848?s=20

What's this? Thought it was 60