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Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • #8342
    NH2013
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭NH2013


    ArchXStanton wrote: »
    Yeah but I thought I read they had something like 1000 cases, we've got what? 19?

    So we're doing even better then, not only have we no mortality rate but have contained it for the most part and only have 19 cases, even better than Germany. :cool:


  • #8343
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,748 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    I think that may be a fair point. Many of the arguments against restricting air travel are from the POV of other places restricted flights from hot-spots. Some of them, eg people will travel anyway, would not apply in this case. How many of the ski-trips would have gone ahead for example?

    I suspect they'd have been afraid of the economic impact. Whereas now when there's feck all coming or going (based on anecdotal reports of near empty planes) that ship has sailed.
    Yeah very true. Unfortunately money is coming before lives in many places.


  • #8344
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    They banned flights from China on 31 January. Their case numbers only ballooned on 21 February.

    They banned flights from China before any proper diagnosis was made?


  • #8345
    WhiteMemento9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    Bob24 wrote: »
    Lets wait and see what they do before we call it "full lockdown" ...

    Some details here.


  • #8346
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    NH2013 wrote: »
    At the same stage we're at now?

    Should we close all shops and businesses tomorrow, ground all flights, stop all schools and colleges, no cars/buses/trains, no GAA training, no public gatherings, everyone stay in their houses in order to make sure we don't spread it to other countries?

    Wait, maybe that's ridiculously excessive. So if you're suggesting that Italy should have done that then 4 weeks ago, surely you expect us to do that now?

    The thing is it was just as crazy a decision for the chinese as it is for us to contemplate. They had all the same worries and problems. I'm not saying it's the right thing for the west but it puts the Chinese actions in perspective.


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  • #8347
    auspicious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,529 ✭✭✭auspicious


    To be confirmed lockdown region map


  • #8348
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I'm on about flights to/from Italy. If they had locked down the region completely and closed Milan airport, we (and many other European regions) would have no cases.


    Looking at how the virus spread across Europe I think it's delusional to believe that banning flights from one country 2 weeks ago would stop this. Look how fast it's moving everywhere in the world right now. Did they all get it from Italy?


  • #8349
    stockshares
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭stockshares


    Beanybabog wrote: »
    How do we not have enough test kits... South Korea has tested huge amounts of people. Are they making their own kits? Would it not be useful to start testing everyone with flu like symptoms here rather than rely on contact tracing. I imagine that’d throw up a few random cases

    It seems the obvious thing to do but the HSE are a cluster **** of an organisation.

    It is highly likely though that there are very few test kits. If the US are short we definitely are


  • #8350
    Mwengwe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    What do people use to wipe their phone down? Don't really want to damage my phone by using Dettol wipes or something


  • #8351
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,748 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Looking at how the virus spread across Europe I think it's delusional to believe that banning flights from one country 2 weeks ago would stop this. Look how fast it's moving everywhere in the world right now. Did they all get it from Italy?
    All of ours came from Italy. They didn't drive and they didn't get a boat.


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  • #8352
    Looptheloop30
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭Looptheloop30


    Portmarnock golf club


  • #8353
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    They banned flights from China before any proper diagnosis was made?

    They had two Chinese tourists confirmed that day.


  • #8354
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,022 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    NH2013 wrote: »
    Same reason we have no mortality rate. Surely we are doing something right?

    The first death usually happens 30 days after the first diagnosis.
    If there's still nobody dead in 3 weeks we can start congratulating ourselves.


  • #8355
    NH2013
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭NH2013


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I said 'at the inkling of an outbreak'. We're not even close to an outbreak. 95% of our cases came from Italy. Their numbers ballooned on the 21st of February, and they didn't react.

    Surely we're now at the "inkling" of an outbreak now with 19 cases out of a population of 4 million?

    So full steam ahead with total lockdown in Ireland for the next 3-4 weeks? Close all shops and businesses tomorrow, ground all flights, stop all schools and colleges, no cars/buses/trains, no GAA training, no public gatherings, everyone stay in their houses in order to make sure we don't spread it to other countries?

    Because that's what you're suggesting Italy should have done but when it comes home you can see exactly how unpalatable it actually is.


  • #8356
    ectoraige
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭ectoraige


    Miike wrote: »
    All departments do run 24/7. It's not like they close up shop at 5 and say listen lads handle the rest your selves.

    They don't. Acute assessment units for example are Monday to Friday, so cases at the weekend or late Friday ends up in ED


  • #8357
    Fireball81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Fireball81


    Looptheloop30 wrote: »
    Portmarnock golf club

    Is that whatsapp message real?


  • #8358
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    What do people use to wipe their phone down? Don't really want to damage my phone by using Dettol wipes or something
    milton wipes. baby section.


  • #8359
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,748 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    NH2013 wrote: »
    Surely we're now at the "inkling" of an outbreak now with 19 cases out of a population of 4 million?

    So full steam ahead with total lockdown in Ireland for the next 3-4 weeks? Close all shops and businesses tomorrow, ground all flights, stop all schools and colleges, no cars/buses/trains, no GAA training, no public gatherings, everyone stay in their houses in order to make sure we don't spread it to other countries?

    Because that's what you're suggesting Italy should have done but when it comes home you can see exactly how unpalatable it actually is.
    Outbreak (in my mind) involves mass transfer. Most of our cases don't involve that, and so far (based on the numbers we have) it's being contained. I don't think you should be comparing Italian and Irish numbers. We're at VERY different stages.


  • #8360
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Does anyone believe the figures declared all over?

    I'm on the fence on this. Hopefully they are true.


  • #8361
    roosterman71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,002 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    So most people who contract this prick of a virus get mild symptoms. Can someone tell me what the definition of mild is here?


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  • #8362
    New Home
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,055 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    auspicious wrote: »
    To be confirmed lockdown region map

    Confirmed. It's a draft decree, but it does read "no changes" (i.e. no changes to be made to its contents).

    http://www.savonanews.it/fileadmin/archivio/savonanews/2_Bozza_DPCM_7_marzo_con_revisioni_ore_18_-_NO_REVISIONI.pdf.pdf


  • #8363
    juno10353
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭juno10353


    Miike wrote: »
    But they don't close and even if they didn't, in the context of SARS-CoV-2 - Having every member of staff at work won't speed up the trajectory of illness or result in quicker discharge.

    True. The illness will run its course, but having full 24/7 hospital services as exist elsewhere, would allow for quicker throughput of patients, fuller testing, and would allow for smoother running of health service in general.


  • #8364
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,259 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    NH2013 wrote: »
    At the same stage we're at now?

    Should we close all shops and businesses tomorrow, ground all flights, stop all schools and colleges, no cars/buses/trains, no GAA training, no public gatherings, everyone stay in their houses in order to make sure we don't spread it to other countries?

    Wait, maybe that's ridiculously excessive. So if you're suggesting that Italy should have done that then 4 weeks ago, surely you expect us to do that now?

    There was an interesting report on Sky News yesterday saying even total lockdown of a country might not have the desired effect : you could dramatically reduce the cases alright but the virus could simply rebound in the autumn / winter instead.

    Overall they were positive though, saying such viruses tend to come in peaks and troughs and follow a similar pattern.


  • #8365
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Dorian Damp Text wrote: »
    milton wipes. baby section.

    Not to be seen anywhere. Where did you get them?


  • #8366
    US2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    What's going on with portmarnock golf course?


  • #8367
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    What do people use to wipe their phone down? Don't really want to damage my phone by using Dettol wipes or something

    My tongue.


  • #8368
    whiskeyman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Fireball81 wrote: »
    Is that whatsapp message real?

    Looks fake.
    An advisory should be from the HSE and not the golf club, even though it has an apparent HSE logo.


  • #8369
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Cody montana wrote: »
    My tongue.

    You from Iran or what? :p


  • #8370
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Does anyone believe the figures declared all over?

    I'm on the fence on this. Hopefully they are true.

    There might be timing issues, EG our today were based on the picture at 2pm, but broadly I would trust the figures in any western country for what they say they are. The likelihood of it being leaked if the declared figures were wrong is high.


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  • #8371
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Not to be seen anywhere. Where did you get them?
    Loads in the local super valu yesterday.


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