Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

wakka12 wrote: »

, Spain had 100 new cases today l

Day is not over yet. 100 cases though is very serious.

It's the sh!tshow that;s gonna come out of Germany need to focus on in terms of policy changes imo.

+154 cases so far in France but Germany still in the lead there by 1.

I think today's numbers may be unsettling enough in Germany to prompt change of approach

The end of day results for Germany are going to be sobering.

I wonder how it plays out.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Not true. Up to 30% may exhibit no symptoms but have the flu virus and can spread it. See point 5:

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/10-flu-myths

Maybe I should have said I don’t think people realise how bad it can get!

Scotty # wrote: »

Correct. I jumped the gun. However, that figure is the rate in the US. The global avg could be much higher.

Flu is 0.1% which takes into account an estimate for unconfirmed infections which is more than double the confirmed ones.

Covid-19 is around 3.4% atm with no estimate of unconfirmed cases. With that estimate you could at least half that figure which would put it around 16-17 times deadlier at the moment.

That's for people who get the virus. It's supposed to be less transmissible than the flu so how much deadlier than the flu it is, is anyone's guess atm but certainly far deadlier.

Hopefully with some more effective treatments that number will drop but it could go up if it overwhelms healthcare systems across the world.

JDD wrote: »

My husband works for a foodstuff company. For a particular line of products, they would normally get orders for approximately 25,000 boxes of the product across the country from all the supermarkets in any one week. Last week they got orders for 33,000 boxes, and they've just got this weeks orders in - 55,000 boxes.

They have the stock - unusually, because normally they run a JIT logistics strategy, but they had built up some stock as a Brexit buffer. So they can supply the supermarkets. So I'm guessing that's what's happening. The manufacturers are running down their stocks, so the shelves in most places are generally full, but that won't last.

But it will be enough because people won't consume at this rate, they're also just stocking up, the same as your husband's company.
Whenever the worst passes, that company will have a few quiet months while people work through their stocks.
This is a good example of why it's good to have some stock and not to be JIT all the way along the supply chain.

Deleted User wrote: »

Not true. Up to 30% may exhibit no symptoms but have the flu virus and can spread it. See point 5:

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/10-flu-myths

Yes, but unless you've been tested, then you don't know.

If you've got the sniffles, you most probably don't have the flu.
If you're laid up in bed for 2 weeks thinking you're never going to feel good ever again, then you've the flu.

As frillyleaf, people who've had the flu don't go around saying they've a touch of the flu. Some people shrug off the Black Death, but I'm sure people in the middle ages didn't go around saying they'd just a "touch of the Black death" :P

tuxy wrote: »

No way of telling how many will get on the flights they booked.
If they are not getting refunds then some will try to make the most of it and visit Ireland.

I hear they are gonna be bused down to Cork to kiss the Blarney Stone

JDD wrote: »

My husband works for a foodstuff company. For a particular line of products, they would normally get orders for approximately 25,000 boxes of the product across the country from all the supermarkets in any one week. Last week they got orders for 33,000 boxes, and they've just got this weeks orders in - 55,000 boxes.

They have the stock - unusually, because normally they run a JIT logistics strategy, but they had built up some stock as a Brexit buffer. So they can supply the supermarkets. So I'm guessing that's what's happening. The manufacturers are running down their stocks, so the shelves in most places are generally full, but that won't last.

Does he actually work in ordering, I have worked in enough factories to know how these stories get escalated.

tuxy wrote: »

No way of telling how many will get on the flights they booked.
If they are not getting refunds then some will try to make the most of it and visit Ireland.

I’d say most of them will come (many must have also prepaid for accommodation) if they can’t get a refund and aren’t told not to come.

Tbh you can’t blame them ... neither Italian not Irish authorities have suggested travelling should be restricted to is a public health concern, so they wouldn’t be defying any health or travel recommendations.

I do place order daily and it is like Xmas in last two days

Brexit stock has been cleared earlier last year, but still plenty of reserve in warehouses.

Suppliers are having good time. Now.

dan786 wrote: »

Update:

Guidelines on the holding of mass gatherings are being discussed at a meeting of a stakeholder forum which is beginning around now.

Employer groups, trade unions, voluntary groups and civic society representatives are attending the discussion to decide how to proceed with large events in the face of the coronavirus.

It's expected the guidelines will be published sometime this evening after the meeting ends.

Good.
Hopefully the World Irish Dance Championships will be one of the first cancelled events because there isn't a hope of them cancelling unless its government directed (I have relatives taking part).
13,000 international visitors congregating in cramped, hot conditions in Dublin Convention Center for 10 days is the last thing we need right now. It would be a breeding ground for infection.
Competitors/spectators come from as far afield as the US, Canada, Australia as well as mainland Europe and the UK, making it an absolute nightmare in terms of containment.
If any of them were to get sick, we just don't have the medical resources to look after them. We barely enough to look after ourselves.

I hope the government finally asserts itself and puts a stop to any unnecessary mass gatherings. Going ahead at this point is absolute insanity.

Of course the Italians will still come. Its probably safer here than at home

No news or rumours of any more cases in cork today anywa, besides the 60 quarantined doctors which I suppose is a good thing unless it totally changes at the announcement later on tonight.

To the person who said over 400 people have been tested in cork, where did you get that info out of a matter of interest?