Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

PixelTrawler wrote: »

I had to look it up when you said that. Wow they really took very serious action after just 571 cases. Nothing like it being done in europe...

"At 2am on 23 January 2020, authorities issued a notice informing residents of Wuhan that from 10am, all public transport, including buses, railways, flights, and ferry services would be suspended. The Wuhan Airport, the Wuhan railway station, and the Wuhan metro were all closed. The residents of Wuhan were also not allowed to leave the city without permission from the authorities.[11][12] The notice caused an exodus from Wuhan. An estimated 300,000 people were reported to have left Wuhan by train alone before the 10am lockdown.[13] By the afternoon of 23 January, the authorities began shutting down some of the major highways leaving Wuhan.[14] The lockdown came two days before the Chinese New Year, the most important festival in the country, and traditionally the peak traveling season, when millions of Chinese travel across the country.[11][14]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Hubei_lockdowns

Exactly, and that is what people don't get when they repeat the message that it is dying down in China so the same will happen here.

It is dying down in China because of early drastic measures.

In Europe, both the French and British are communicating that they believe this cannot be contained. I understand from sources that some local authorities in Germany are being told the same.

10 new cases in Austria this morning. Brings total to 51.

10000maniacs wrote: »

The doctor was probably a strapadictamy specialist. Not so much on best practices for virus containment. He should have had the good sense to get checked in Italy before he hopped on the plane.

And what's worse, he was coughing and spluttering while at work and had obvious symptoms yet never thought maybe that he had the virus and him a friggen doctor!!!

bennyl10 wrote: »

They said hunderds of thousands would die in Ireland to clarify, which wont happen

even with a 2% fatality we wont reach near those figures here

This is form looking at reporting and the country graph which has held through so far

Thats assuming our health system doesnt get overwhelmed which if all we keep doing is useless contact tracing it deffinitely will

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

10 new cases in Austria this morning. Brings total to 51.

To be honest given their location, that's not too bad

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Germany seem quite well prepared and for the number of cases not 1 death registered

That might be because Germany is a few weeks behind Italy, but we'll see.

Germany has quite a high number of hospital beds per person (at least double Ireland's). That said, staffing in the healthcare system is a huge issue.

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

And what's worse, he was coughing and spluttering while at work and had obvious symptoms yet never thought maybe that he had the virus and him a friggen doctor!!!

The guy is an idiot for showing up at work, but his management are just as bad for letting him come to work and not asking questions.

DrumSteve wrote: »

Yeah id imagine once the Germans go into lock down, Europe will follow their lead

I very much hope to be wrong but I see not evidence of measures being foreseen to put Germany into lock down.

embraer170 wrote: »

What large scale measures are European countries implementing?

Wuhan was put into lock down when China had less than 550 cases. We are far beyond that in Italy, Germany, France.

European policymakers are scared ****less of disrupting the grand European project of open borders and mass movement of people. People on here criticised and ridiculed the Chinese authorities for the "draconian" measures they implemented, but they did it for the greater good. If only our European overlords would consider some of the softer Chinese actions, it would help. At the moment, everything seems to be reactionary, rather than proactive

tillyfilly wrote: »

Three schools in the west of Ireland have reportedly closed amid coronavirus fears and more may shut, Minister for Health Rolf Harris said.

The virus, also known as Covid-19, has now infected nine people, the Irish health organisation has confirmed.

In a few days you will look back on this post as the good times.

embraer170 wrote: »

Exactly, and that is what people don't get when they repeat the message that it is dying down in China so the same will happen here.

It is dying down in China because of early drastic measures.

In Europe, both the French and British are communicating that they believe this cannot be contained. I understand from sources that some local authorities in Germany are being told the same.

Technical question: How can a virus die down? I understand severe restrictions on movement stop the immediate spread but the actual virus still exists, lying dormant, so I would have thought as soon as normal service returns the virus will just start up again.

Basically will short term drastic measures have significant long term benefits. I know things like banning the parades would probably have some benefit, but things like school closures for a few weeks, would the benefit match the disruption. Schools will eventually start up again and we will be back to square one.

It seems to me until a vaccine is discovered (and people take it) we will just have to cope with this infection.

Again I'm not an expert, just posing a question.

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Wonder if there is any correlation with student doctors having their exams brought forward 7 weeks to what is happening in Limerick and Cork?

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1235596524580675586?s=19

It is simply sensible to get more young doctors into the system ASAP.

A. They’ll need bodies to replace SHOs/interns etc who get sick or are self-isolating by then. People seem to think there will always be enough doctors and nurses to provide proper care. We have an overstretched system as it is with very little spare capacity and redundancy. Even moderate levels of self-isolation and illness among staff will have significant impacts.

B. They’ll want the reserve capacity a few hundred extra doctors give them in May/June.

C. I think it will prove difficult to organise Final Med Exams by May/June. I’ve been involved in organising them and examining a few times and
C1. It takes a lot of time away from clinical work - two consultants examining each long case for half a day over a period of almost a week. That’s a lot of time which they simple won’t have by May/June if this goes the way it could.

C2. Doing them earlier reduces the risk of infection during the exams.

C3. It gives the potential of doubling the number of interns in Hospitals across the country during a period when the stretch on resources will be ramping up. This will help.


It is good to see responsible bodies taking reasonable steps in preparation for likely scenarios. 300 extra bodies with ruthless redeployment to areas hit by illness/self isolation will really help. And they’re interns so they’ll go where told. The few who don’t will be remembered by their seniors and good luck to them making any career progress when we are on the other side of this.