Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Nijmegen wrote: »

So I’ve been here since day 1 of these threads, and all along it has been “X that occurred overseas isn’t going to occur here, go away with you.”

We now have predictable outbreak patterns in a number of countries and also predictable knock on results. Cops in Australia (and other countries) have ended up having to break up knife fights over loo roll. Of course shops will get resupplied, though to your point about bridges not getting blocked... if there’s a quarantine, in an area you will not be able to go to the shops. Government has taken over supplying households in many affected locked down areas. People rush to the shops before that because, well, they don’t trust the government.

I don't think Irish people will be having knife fights over loo roll,just too laid back for that.
there isn't much point in quarantines as it will be everywhere, the bridge comment was partly a reference to your username

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I hope people don't get alarmed at the number of cases over the next few days. Most of these as elsewhere will be mild cases - severe cold type symptoms. Some will be more severe particularly with underlying problems but again it's following the exact trend of Iran, Italy, Germany...

It's all the same trajectory.

What I am personally concerned about is that the only country whereby we seem to see a reduction in new cases is China (if we can believe the figures), but many keep forgetting this followed the implementation of super drastic measures to limit propagation.

I fear because of this many countries (including European ones) are now getting complacent and thinking they just need to wait for 2 months and the number of new cases will start dropping; which I am not sure is a wise assumption. I think we might soon see different outcomes depending on how counties have managed the situation (and to say it bluntly I am more hopeful about Singapore or Korea than about Ireland or Italy).

Duke of Url wrote: »

You're repeating what everyone knows already.

I have a feeling your stating this over and over again for your "I told you so Moment" post.

Its a Pandemic. Everyone knows its a pandemic.

A damn less annoying than people saying 'hysteria' and 'alarmist'.

All the guys from northern Italy will be coming at the weekend. Nobody will be tested unless they present themselves to be tested.

Containment is over, the joke is there was never any containment in the first place.

Bob24 wrote: »

What I am personally concerned about is that they only country whereby we seem to see a reduction in new cases is China (if we can believe the figures), but many keep forgetting this followed the implementation of super drastic measures to limit propagation.

I fear because of this many countries (including Europe ones) are now getting complacent and thinking they just need to wait for 2 months and new cases will start dropping; which I am not sure is a wise assumption.

Totally agree, China locked things down really quickly. 50 million people quarantined, and they contained it. Without that drastic action it would have been a lot worse. At what point will ireland quarantine? It seems like never, but let's see what the next week brings....

Bob24 wrote: »

What I am personally concerned about is that they only country whereby we seem to see a reduction in new cases is China (if we can believe the figures), but many keep forgetting this followed the implementation of super drastic measures to limit propagation.

I fear because of this many countries (including Europe ones) are now getting complacent and thinking they just need to wait for 2 months and new cases will start dropping; which I am not sure is a wise assumption.

Well in terms of active cases around Europe hopefully we should see some sort of reduction in numbers once those currently active recover in the next week or so given we're less than 2 weeks into this really in Europe.

frillyleaf wrote: »

The fact that thousands of people are flying in from a heavily infected region shows how poorly this is being handled imo. In no way am I saying that we should overreact as there is no need to as it will be here either way . But I think having no restrictions whatsoever to and from Italy has been a very poor decision as it means we could have more cases in a shorter time frame which will put pressure on an already inefficient health system.

There was, in fact, no point postponing the match if they weren't going to attempt to stop the spread of the disease.

frillyleaf wrote: »

We can’t avoid the virus and I’m not suggesting that we can. However dealing with large numbers of cases in a shorter timeframe is more difficult.

Everyone could have avoided the virus if all the different countries had pulled their act together. Italy, in Europe, seemed to totally drop the ball, and then their problem became our problem. The response by different countries has been very uneven in its effectiveness. Ireland basically did nothing - it had a little stand in Dublin airport that would had out leaflets if you went up to them. That was the entire scope of our containment policy.

Question may have been answered before but, does an infected person have to be admitted to hospital? Home or self treatment option would take pressure off hospital resources.

Have to say, getting on the 16 instead of literally any other bus this morning was a bad idea. The amount of face covering, coughs and sneezes. Guy behind me is pulling an ocean in through his nose with the sniffing.

Mav11 wrote: »

Question may have been answered before but, does an infected person have to be admitted to hospital? Home or self treatment option would take pressure off hospital resources.

It'll vary. I think 80-85% of cases will be mild. I imagine potentially a few more where the person doesn't cop they have more than a slight cough as well. The majority of cases will not require hospital treatment.

tails_naf wrote: »

Except the professional advice is wrong. They won't get tested. They can ask, but unless you are symptomatic, no test for you. That's as of yesterday, from a close relative who had a stronger contact with a case than the OP here.

I’m so glad we have the internet, so randomers can save us by knowing better than professionals.

RandomName2 wrote: »

A damn less annoying than people saying 'hysteria' and 'alarmist'.

All the guys from northern Italy will be coming at the weekend. Nobody will be tested unless they present themselves to be tested.

Containment is over, the joke is there was never any containment in the first place.

It's heartbreaking. Like watching a slow motion car crash. The amount of heartbreak this virus is going to bring with it.
We had an opportunity to stop it but failed at every step.
Didn't want to 'panic the people' or 'crash the economy'
Well, we can all watch it crash and burn now..
I'm disgusted to be honest. Not one official listened to the experts.
WHO have been banging the aggressive containment drum for a long long time now. Not one person in gov or hse listened.
Telling a doctor and teacher carry on? Wtf? How on earth is that aggressive containment? And people on here trying too say it was WHO guidelines. Newsflash: it wasn't. We know cause we were paying attention.
Disgusting. I'm sooooo angry at the it will be grand people. There is now a man in cork fighting for his life, he's in his forties and his crime was trusting those in authority.

Duke of Url wrote: »

not really. 85% of confirmed cases are mild. so most likely could be treated at home.

Better stock up on the paracetamol so!!

daheff wrote: »

Surely the point of quarantine is to stop it getting everywhere??

it's too late, the cases we know of are scattered around the country, not much point now