Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) Read warnings in OP

owlbethere · 05-03-2020 11:30PM

AmberGold wrote: »

Just throwing this out there as maybe some unfortunate might be in the same position.

One of the lads in work (UK based) went to northern Italy on a skiing holiday mid Feb, came back early last week. He, his wife and daughter all very sick with a flu like illness, very productive cough and high temperature.

Went into self isolation and reported themselves to the NHS, had blood test earlier this week and results yesterday, all negative for COVID.

An odd coincidence, we all had him down as having it.

Maybe it's not showing on tests yet. Antibodies might not be high enough. Continue to self isolate.

Nijmegen · 05-03-2020 11:31PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Yes, but the logical conclusion is you then have to ban all large public gatherings before and after March 17th. How can Croke Park, the Aviva or the 3 Arena be safe if the parade is "unsafe".

There’s that penny dropping.

4068ac1elhodqr · 05-03-2020 11:31PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Zero sick pay for the majority of workers and insane medical bills will mean many people there will just carry on even with symptoms.

Yang was openly offering UBI (freedom dividend) $1k for every person in the US where this is an issue. Instead folks are eyeing up creepy Joe for POTUS20. Really does not compute.

Pseudonym121 · 05-03-2020 11:31PM

Juwwi wrote: »

Do many end up in hospital on ventilators as opposed to fighting it at home yourself do you know ?

They say about 15 to 20% will require some
Hospital care - that could just be supplementary oxygen ( the nasal prongs etc ) and nebulisers etc etc so not ventilators.

Of those 15 to 20% some portion - maybe up to half ( although this varies widely so don’t nitpick it to death ) -will need more invasive treatment such as ventilators.

Overwhelmingly the people who die are older and with existing pathology, often of a chronic and respiratory nature.

This does appear to vary by strain though (L vs S ). In China they are clear there are two strains. WHO hasn’t fully signed on to that yet but I expect they will soon.

RandomName2 · 05-03-2020 11:31PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Is there any news on patient 1 the woman from NIRL, how is she now? A progress update might calm fears, then again if she's not the best it will only add to peoples worries.

I find it interesting that we haven't heard from any patients really.

Now I know that one doesn't really want reporters going into containment areas and all, but even so.

Are those hospitalized in ICU or just isolation? Are those who have recovered (which are very many) without any long term health implications (I believe this was an issue with SARS)

stockshares · 05-03-2020 11:31PM

Apologies if this was posted already.

It's an open letter from Dr Paul O Brien to to Dr.Tony Holohan, Chief Medical Officer at Irish Department of Health and Paul Reid, Director General of Irish Health Executive Service (HSE) questioning how the outbreak has been handled relative to best practice.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/open-letter-dr-tony-holohan-cmo-department-health-paul-o-brien/?published=t

Kermit.de.frog · 05-03-2020 11:31PM

Latest from the motherland

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Hamsterchops · 05-03-2020 11:32PM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Covid-19 tally for UK & Ireland today 11am.

UK now cases = 90
Ireland cases =6

Wonder what jump we'll have later today when the daily updated figures are released?

Will we enter double figures?

Wow, what a difference a day makes. Twelve hours later & things have changed a lot.......

UK cases now =116.
Ireland cases = 13.

...that we know of.

Strazdas · 05-03-2020 11:32PM

Nijmegen wrote: »

There’s that penny dropping.

But where does it stop then? Ireland is not northern Italy.

Ninthlife · 05-03-2020 11:32PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Yes, but the logical conclusion is you then have to ban all large public gatherings before and after March 17th. How can Croke Park, the Aviva or the 3 Arena be safe if the parade is "unsafe".

Personally Id cancel them all at this stage

Ita an unnecessary risk

MoonUnit75 · 05-03-2020 11:33PM

Arrival wrote: »

The stats from Italy today say that 54% of active cases required treatment in hospital. It's seriously worrying that so many people in this country can't comprehend the implications of these kinds of stats for ourselves, especially considering the flow of Irish and Italians to and from Italy

54% of people sick enough to get a diagnosis. Probably a much lower rate in reality.

4068ac1elhodqr · 05-03-2020 11:33PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

it is though,
what's WHO's criteria for declaring a pandemic, I'd love to know

Yellow money (that has even been sprayed and dried before re-release).

tillyfilly · 05-03-2020 11:33PM

I wish I was Chinese

RandomName2 · 05-03-2020 11:33PM

Louche Lad wrote: »

It's spreading in New South Wales where temperatures are in the 20s. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/05/coronavirus-darwin-tourist-becomes-first-in-nt-to-test-positive-as-australian-cases-rise-to-52

That sounds like pretty terrible news, if true.

Tordelback · 05-03-2020 11:33PM

gmisk wrote: »

Low risk if under 65/70.
I think a lot of the younger categories had a death rate at roughly 0.2%

Which if your figure is correct is twice the mortality of flu, which almost exclusively kills the elderly and otherwise vulnerable. So the consolation in your post is that if infected you are young and fit you are only twice as likely to die of Covid-19 as an octogenarian diabetic is to die of seasonal flu. I'll pass, thanks.

cloudatlas · 05-03-2020 11:33PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

With all of the virus excitement going on I'm just wondering have we forgotten that we don't have a government ? Or does that matter anymore. Seems to have disappeared

Northern Ireland have survived without one. Maybe we'd be better off.

solidasarock · 05-03-2020 11:34PM

https://www.rte.ie/news/post/103348890/

Was the HSE on a 2 week holiday and is only now catching up on their paperwork or something?

Nijmegen · 05-03-2020 11:34PM

Strazdas wrote: »

But where does it stop then? Ireland is not northern Italy.

The only country that has so far contained a major outbreak is China (and even then, it’s not stopped).

They welded people into their apartments.

Gods Gift · 05-03-2020 11:34PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Latest from the motherland

What’s the grey 1 in the middle. I’m moving there!!!

10000maniacs · 05-03-2020 11:34PM

Ninthlife wrote: »

Dawn of the Dead.

Off to Dundrum Shopping Centre

Don't worry. Iodine tablets, Strepsils and a naggin of Jameson will sort it out.

4068ac1elhodqr · 05-03-2020 11:35PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Latest from the motherland

De fatherland surrendered when it got to 20 cases, perhaps it wouldn't have been so bad if used better controls. Even a delay helps, assuming June heatwave and dry spell.

05-03-2020 11:35PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Yes, but the logical conclusion is you then have to ban all large public gatherings before and after March 17th. How can Croke Park, the Aviva or the 3 Arena be safe if the parade is "unsafe".

They aren't.

stephenjmcd · 05-03-2020 11:35PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Latest from the motherland

Interesting that the vast majority of cases are in 2 or 3 areas really.

harr · 05-03-2020 11:35PM

Strazdas wrote: »

But where does it stop then? Ireland is not northern Italy.

Not yet

Pseudonym121 · 05-03-2020 11:35PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

I find it interesting that we haven't heard from any patients really.

Now I know that one doesn't really want reporters going into containment areas and all, but even so.

Are those hospitalized in ICU or just isolation? Are those who have recovered (which are very many) without any long term health implications (I believe this was an issue with SARS)

I was reading a study today in which they isolated it from a “cured” patients cerebrospinal fluid so that speaks to both the risk of encephalitis ( which he had ) and it finding reservoirs within “cured individuals” who could then either relapse or potentially spread it again.

Too early to tell but finding it in the CSF is both interesting and a bit frightening.

skimpydoo · 05-03-2020 11:35PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

Swine flu hysteria? It killed half a million people you know. I am not joking.

Given that it infected nearly 20% of the world's population, that's not an incredibly bad fatality rate.

I had not realized that containment of swine flu simply failed. Attitudes like yours need to be curtailed or ignored. All pandemics start with a single individual. The longer it takes for people to take it seriously the more difficult it is to do anything about it.

It looks likely that it is too late in relation to covid-19. Hopefully it doesn't do well in warm weather. Given the lack of southern hemisphere and african cases currently, that may be true.

It's already in Africa.

05-03-2020 11:35PM

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

They say about 15 to 20% will require some
Hospital care - that could just be supplementary oxygen ( the nasal prongs etc ) and nebulisers etc etc so not ventilators.

Of those 15 to 20% some portion - maybe up to half ( although this varies widely so don’t nitpick it to death ) -will need more invasive treatment such as ventilators.

Overwhelmingly the people who die are older and with existing pathology, often of a chronic and respiratory nature.

This does appear to vary by strain though (L vs S ). In China they are clear there are two strains. WHO hasn’t fully signed on to that yet but I expect they will soon.

I don't think that the 20% would all need oxygen. People in hospital with a viral illness also need to be kept rehydrated with IV fluids to stop organ failure.

owlbethere · 05-03-2020 11:36PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

What’s the grey 1 in the middle. I’m moving there!!!

Is that 302 cases in the west of Germany?

RandomName2 · 05-03-2020 11:36PM

tillyfilly wrote: »

I wish I was Chinese

Genuinely.

Even though they caused it they are actually serious about containing it. They don't say 'let people travel from Wuhan to other parts of China and then wait and see what happens'.

The Chinese government doesn't even particularly care about the welfare of its people, but it seems to be doing a better job at protecting them in relation to this than any Western government.

They were presented with an almost impossible job of containment and they seem to be managing. We were presented with a really easy one (for instance DON'T GO TO NORTHERN FKING ITALY) and we completely ballsed it up.

fritzelly · 05-03-2020 11:36PM

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

This does appear to vary by strain though (L vs S ). In China they are clear there are two strains. WHO hasn’t fully signed on to that yet but I expect they will soon.

There is zero evidence there is any difference in the strains (the difference between the two is minute) and now you are talking about different levels of care needed for the different strains

You want to be taken seriously??? FFS

Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) Read warnings in OP