Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP

babybuilder · 04-03-2020 11:23PM

ixoy wrote: »

As bad as Italy - what makes you say that? Why would we be worse than say Portugal, which has I believe 5 cases. Or will everyone be terrible? I'm not still quite sure why Ireland's going to be so much worse than these other countries because none are equipped for a huge level of isolation.

I'd say there a lot better equipped than here.

boetstark · 04-03-2020 11:23PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Nothing inevitable about it. The vast majority of cases in Europe relate to people who had been in Italy, 'not' to community infection.

One in UK already

circadian · 04-03-2020 11:23PM

Phoebas wrote: »

Has the virus mutated?

Just passed it's driving test.

For reals though, hope all involved pull through OK whatever happened. Seems serious if the helicopter is floating around here.

freshpopcorn · 04-03-2020 11:24PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Niall_Boylan/status/1235321593355808778

Going by the comments under it. This and the Coronavirus aren't related!

Get Real · 04-03-2020 11:24PM

tillyfilly wrote: »

they should have stopped the flights from China

Italy did stop the flights from China, on January 31st. Long before the cluster of 16 cases discovered in Lombardy on the 21st of Feb.

It did nothing to prevent the subsequent outbreak. In fact, made it harder to trace as people just started flying from China to "pitstop' countries, and getting in that way.

Ironically, the country that was the first in Europe to ban flights from China, is the most affected.

ThePopehimself · 04-03-2020 11:25PM

Anyone getting any idea of a specific area 'In the West' for the four cases. Anyone hear anything?

juno10353 · 04-03-2020 11:25PM

FlyBe to go into administration after last flight tonight, due to 50% drop in March bookings due to coronavirus

Loughc · 04-03-2020 11:25PM

Jin luk wrote: »

3 weeks well be well near italys numbers if not surpassed them

Despite Italy’s population being significantly higher than ours. :rolleyes:

CinemaGuy45 · 04-03-2020 11:25PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Niall_Boylan/status/1235321593355808778

what is this?

Anything to do with the virus?

Snow Garden · 04-03-2020 11:26PM

People are going to make getting the 'virus' a stigma the way they are going on. You can see signs of it on this thread.
It will only make people hide the fact that they have it and continue mixing with the general public.

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 04-03-2020 11:26PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Good thing is there's been no transmission related infections. We need to cancel all flights to and from Italy immediately. No excuses now.

These people could have flown in up to 14 days ago

Loughc · 04-03-2020 11:27PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

what is this?

Anything to do with the virus?

A lad crashed a Van on a cycle path and hit a pedestrian. So yeah totally virus related.

Ninthlife · 04-03-2020 11:27PM

Phoebas wrote: »

Has the virus mutated?

Corolla Virus

freshpopcorn · 04-03-2020 11:27PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

what is this?

Anything to do with the virus?

It appears to be an incident with a van and somebody getting knocked down going by the comments under it!

fritzelly · 04-03-2020 11:28PM

So was just thinking with the UK saying if things get bad there then the police will only be responding to serious situations
If the same happens here would we notice the difference?

Mwengwe · 04-03-2020 11:28PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

what is this?

Anything to do with the virus?

No it isn't, very weird.
Must have posted in wrong thread.

Satturnfalls · 04-03-2020 11:28PM

is it reasonable to assume that the new cases in the west (4) have been in ireland for at least 2 weeks now and, in that time, have been out and about until now showing symptoms of the wuflu willing them to the hospital? TLDR: have they been incubating for 2 weeks and spreading the virus unwittingly.

ixoy · 04-03-2020 11:28PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Doubt it would be worse but the trend is clear - we are behind a a week or two. The figures bump along for a couple of weeks before a sudden surge.

Just taking a look at Croatia as it's a similar population size, albeit part of continental Europe. First case on May the 25th and, after four days, they were at 7. Ireland's first on the 29th, and after four more days, we're at 6. So tracking fairly close so far.

igCorcaigh · 04-03-2020 11:29PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

They have an exceptionally elderly population so the mortality rate might be higher than other countries. Or ours hopefully.

Or maybe they kiss a lot...

Sorry to be flippant, but I really think its the time lag. Its the virus that kills people. And it's seeding Europe.

CinemaGuy45 · 04-03-2020 11:29PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

It appears to be an incident with a van and somebody getting knocked down going by the comments under it!

Alright a very serious incident.:(

This thread is for the virus.

stevek93 · 04-03-2020 11:29PM

a positive thought if 83% of mild symptoms is true then the majority of cases will get over it and hopefully develop immunity if so then once the vast majority of the population has immunity maybe this then might fizzle out? Correct me if I am wrong but I am seeing just doom a gloom lately and trying to hope for the best.

babybuilder · 04-03-2020 11:30PM

Get Real wrote: »

Italy did stop the flights from China, on January 31st. Long before the cluster of 16 cases discovered in Lombardy on the 21st of Feb.

It did nothing to prevent the subsequent outbreak. In fact, made it harder to trace as people just started flying from China to "pitstop' countries, and getting in that way.

Ironically, the country that was the first in Europe to ban flights from China, is the most affected.

3 weeks is not overly long before.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-incubation-period/

feargale · 04-03-2020 11:31PM

joe_99 wrote: »

I wonder what it would look like if we counted every case of flu, as an example every year? 2 million cases each year in italy,

Why not lump in everybody who dies of something or other? I've heard of whataboutery but this takes the bloody ten-tiered cake.

CinemaGuy45 · 04-03-2020 11:31PM

fritzelly wrote: »

So was just thinking with the UK saying if things get bad there then the police will only be responding to serious situations
If the same happens here would we notice the difference?

Like people not paying import tax on garlic and the like?

Gooey Looey · 04-03-2020 11:31PM

stevek93 wrote: »

a positive thought if 83% of mild symptoms is true then the majority of cases will get over it and hopefully develop immunity if so then once the vast majority of the population has immunity maybe this then might fizzle out? Correct me if I am wrong but I am seeing just doom a gloom lately and trying to hope for the best.

There have been cases of reinfection

froog · 04-03-2020 11:32PM

really good AMA with a group of medical experts on reddit. Answers a LOT of questions that pop up here regularly.

https://new.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fdf5fq/we_are_a_team_of_medical_experts_following/

fritzelly · 04-03-2020 11:32PM

stevek93 wrote: »

a positive thought if 83% of mild symptoms is true then the majority of cases will get over it and hopefully develop immunity if so then once the vast majority of the population has immunity maybe this then might fizzle out? Correct me if I am wrong but I am seeing just doom a gloom lately and trying to hope for the best.

Evidence of reinfection after testing clear - but immunity is still an unknown with figures ranging from 2 weeks to a few months and then you're fair game again

caveat emptor · 04-03-2020 11:32PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Situation is evolving rapidly and you should be thinking 2 steps ahead. I find myself in similar situation.

You should have a plan and update regularly.
Has the situation changed?

If yes you should adopt a stance that is proportional to the risk. We have a cognitive bias when it comes to low probability high impact events. Chances of your kids contracting is still low. However the 6 cases only is bollox Given the incubation period and bias towards people only seeking treatment if and when it gets bad like the last 4 people then that 6 is 6 last week.
Exponential growth has been observed in every other major national outbreak We would be naive to think that it won't occur here by which time we'll have to adopt drastic measures.

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

All official information refers to six confirmed cases. Nobody could possibly expect them to report on what they don't know about yet. There's nobody going around saying there's definitely only six cases in this jurisdiction.

My point is there are 6 cases which have manifested now and given the longer incubation period of this disease, that 6 today translates to 6 last week at the very least. Given the growth rate of cases the number of cases in the community is much larger. Thant's how we knew it was bad in China initially. Statistically it was possible to predict with high certainty that actual case count was order of magnitudes larger due to the spread internationally. Based on epidemiology modelling of human migration / flight patterns etc.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1225668790198759424?s=20

Spanish Eyes · 04-03-2020 11:32PM

stevek93 wrote: »

a positive thought if 83% of mild symptoms is true then the majority of cases will get over it and hopefully develop immunity if so then once the vast majority of the population has immunity maybe this then might fizzle out? Correct me if I am wrong but I am seeing just doom a gloom lately and trying to hope for the best.

Am hoping the same. But very sorry for the at risk groups at the same time. We shall see I suppose.

the butcher · 04-03-2020 11:32PM

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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP