Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP

wadacrack · 04-03-2020 03:21PM

Strazdas wrote: »

GAA matches, soccer matches, rugby matches, race meetings.......

What's the obsession with targeting St Patricks Day only?

Theirs tourists travelling over. St Patrick's day is much higher risk than the eents you mentioned.

Their will be restrictions on those after community spread is evident

jam_mac_jam · 04-03-2020 03:22PM

Strazdas wrote: »

GAA matches, soccer matches, rugby matches, race meetings.......

What's the obsession with targeting St Patricks Day only?

Because its a large crowd of people. Larger the crowd the higher the risk.

Downlinz · 04-03-2020 03:23PM

Strazdas wrote: »

International travel will continue apace with or without St Patricks Day, the 6 Nations or Euro 2020.

The authorities have to look at this sensibly. They can't just shut down major events for the sake of shutting them down or to appease the internet panic merchants.

If you're going to cancel them, you should be looking at cancelling just about everything.

Cancelling major events gives less incentive for those from abroad to travel here though I'd certainly prefer if we were banning travel from those areas entirely as well.

dan786 · 04-03-2020 03:23PM

UK cases really affecting Cheltenham odds again, 9/2 to 12/5. Did get to 11/10 after it got to 35 for a brief period of time. 85 is a lot more so expect it go change further.

is_that_so · 04-03-2020 03:23PM

Strazdas wrote: »

GAA matches, soccer matches, rugby matches, race meetings.......

What's the obsession with targeting St Patricks Day only?

The sheer numbers in a location. Even in a small town you'd have up to half the population in one place.

Bob24 · 04-03-2020 03:23PM

Strazdas wrote: »

What's the obsession with targeting St Patricks Day only?

The larger a gathering, the more dangerous it is in terms of spreading the virus. And I assume Paddy’s day is the largest gathering in the country and it is logically the first “target” for cancellation.

Rob A. Bank · 04-03-2020 03:23PM

Strazdas wrote: »

International travel will continue apace with or without St Patricks Day, the 6 Nations or Euro 2020.

The authorities have to look at this sensibly. They can't just shut down major events for the sake of shutting them down or to appease the internet panic merchants.

If you're going to cancel them, you should be looking at cancelling just about everything.

The government has to decide which is more important... the health of it's citizens or business interests.

They had no problem pulling the drawbridge up when animal health was threatened in 2001.

And they did it several weeks before we had our first case here !!!

SafeSurfer · 04-03-2020 03:24PM

Strazdas wrote: »

GAA matches, soccer matches, rugby matches, race meetings.......

What's the obsession with targeting St Patricks Day only?

It’s simply the biggest public gathering in Ireland bar none. Hundreds of thousands of people in close proximity in every major town and city.
Look at the experience of cities which continued with parades during the Spanish flu pandemic compared with those that banned them.

wakka12 · 04-03-2020 03:24PM

34 new casesin the UK, 85 now

GooglePlus · 04-03-2020 03:24PM

Big increase in UK numbers will make them think twice about Cheltenham surely?

jam_mac_jam · 04-03-2020 03:24PM

I don't understand the difference to the foot and mouth crisis.
Why was it ok to postpone for that?

pc7 · 04-03-2020 03:24PM

dan786 wrote: »

UK cases really affecting Cheltenham odds again, 9/2 to 12/5. Did get to 11/10 after it got to 35 for a brief period of time. 85 is a lot more so expect it go change further.

What kind of numbers would attend cheltenham? Its a huge event isn't it?

odyssey06 · 04-03-2020 03:25PM

Strazdas wrote: »

GAA matches, soccer matches, rugby matches, race meetings.......

What's the obsession with targeting St Patricks Day only?

it isn't.

if we were playing South Korea or Italy in a soccer playoff at the Aviva or Croke Park, people would be saying play it behind closed doors.

pc7 · 04-03-2020 03:25PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

I don't understand the difference to the foot and mouth crisis.
Why was it ok to postpone for that?

#cowslivesmatter

is_that_so · 04-03-2020 03:25PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yeah i agree with you on this.

For example the Slovakia v Ireland match, headlines of it being behind closed doors etc are pointless when we have 2 cases they have 0. So long as there wasn't a major outbreak people will still travel. The media are fueling a hell of alot of the panic.

TBF to them they are just feeding out the huge stream of information available. The public is doing most of the fuelling.

MadYaker · 04-03-2020 03:25PM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Surely the WHO will have to call this a pandemic. Maybe then governments around the world including our own will start taking this more seriously.

It’s insane to imagine St. Patricks Day parades proceeding all around the country. Absolute insanity.

But this makes no sense. If they are banning paddy’s day gatherings they have to ban all public gatherings or else there’s no point. Close all schools, universities, factories, shopping centres, sporting events, weddings etc etc. What’s the difference between 4000 people at a paddy’s day parade and 4000 people in a factory or on a university campus or in Dublin City centre on a Friday morning? We can’t shut the whole country down ffs.

dan786 · 04-03-2020 03:25PM

pc7 wrote: »

What kind of numbers would attend cheltenham? Its a huge event isn't it?

Over 266,000 attended last year, average of 65,000 people a day.

GooglePlus · 04-03-2020 03:25PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

I don't understand the difference to the foot and mouth crisis.
Why was it ok to postpone for that?

Economy balances on a knife edge these days.

pc7 · 04-03-2020 03:26PM

dan786 wrote: »

Over 266,000 attended last year, average of 65,000 people a day.

Wow, ok can see why its such a big risk if numbers keep increasing.

jam_mac_jam · 04-03-2020 03:27PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Economy balances on a knife edge these days.

And it didn't then?

Cilldara_2000 · 04-03-2020 03:27PM

silver2020 wrote: »

Aviva was not deemed unsafe. What was deemed unsafe was an estimated 3,000 italians coming to Dublin from Northern Italy which is their Rugby heartland.

By cancelling the match it gives less reason for these fans to travel to the city.

Are you sure about this?

I understood that they didn't want x number of Italian fans in close proximity with many tens of thousands of Irish people for a number of hours. Small groups of tourists wandering streets or mixing in pubs with limited capacities (relative to Landsdowne Road) are much lower risk.

wakka12 · 04-03-2020 03:28PM

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3065016/coronavirus-pet-dog-belonging-covid-19-patient
The dog in Hong Kong has been confirmed as having contracted the virus and has been quarantined until he tests negative, it is the first verified case of human to animal transmission

GooglePlus · 04-03-2020 03:28PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

And it didn't then?

Not as much so, no.

Our economy took a huge hit then of course, but maybe they're holding off this time around.

odyssey06 · 04-03-2020 03:28PM

MadYaker wrote: »

But this makes no sense. If they are banning paddy’s day gatherings they have to ban all public gatherings or else there’s no point. Close all schools, universities, factories, shopping centres, sporting events, weddings etc etc. What’s the difference between 4000 people at a paddy’s day parade and 4000 people in a factory or on a university campus or in Dublin City centre on a Friday morning? We can’t shut the whole country down ffs.

France banned enclosed events for more than 5000 people. Switzerland banned gatherings of more than 1000 people.
I am assuming they didn't just pick that number of the sky.
Nobody is saying it means the country should shut down.
It's a non-essential gathering.

Contact tracing easier in factory, university and the contacts are repeatable.

When shopping you are not in the constant close proximity as you would have at a concert or sporting event.

the butcher · 04-03-2020 03:28PM

https://twitter.com/alyhdi/status/1235204551839567872

Tea Shock · 04-03-2020 03:28PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Closing the stable door a month after the horse bolted !

And sadly we seem to be doing the same.

Drivel

What about offices, pubs, restaurants, hotels, shopping centers, public transport....banning visitors/deliveries to people's home....the street! Still....at least the 2 people who would have got it in the cinema/theatre will be grand.....for an extra week or two!

The funniest thing I've seen is Iran letting 54,000 people out of prison and telling the.....hey lads, come back in a couple of weeks and we'll let ye all back in

04-03-2020 03:29PM

Bob24 wrote: »

The larger a gathering, the more dangerous it is in terms of spreading the virus. And I assume Paddy’s day is the largest gathering in the country and it is logically the first “target” for cancellation.

Add to that the amount of drink consumed, kissing, hugging, more drink, less likely to wash hands, queues for toilets, urinating/vomiting in streets, public transport usually jammed on the day. You can see why they might consider cancelling it.

purple hands · 04-03-2020 03:29PM

wakka12 wrote: »

34 new casesin the UK, 85 now

No longer publishing the location of new cases on a daily basis either, only once a week now

MadYaker · 04-03-2020 03:29PM

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

Are you sure about this?

I understood that they didn't want x number of Italian fans in close proximity with many tens of thousands of Irish people for a number of hours. Small groups of tourists wandering streets or mixing in pubs with limited capacities (relative to Landsdowne Road) are much lower risk.

Do people really think all the Italians who had flights and hotels paid for are going to stay at home because the match is cancelled? Not much craic in Italy at the moment I think I know what I’d be doing.

SafeSurfer · 04-03-2020 03:30PM

MadYaker wrote: »

But this makes no sense. If they are banning paddy’s day gatherings they have to ban all public gatherings or else there’s no point. Close all schools, universities, factories, shopping centres, sporting events, weddings etc etc. What’s the difference between 4000 people at a paddy’s day parade and 4000 people in a factory or on a university campus or in Dublin City centre on a Friday morning? We can’t shut the whole country down ffs.

Well because the parade isn’t essential. It’s gathering a huge number of people together in close proximity for nothing. Can you imagine the outcry once infection cases increase in the aftermath of the parades? It would be political suicide not to have taken a precautionary approach.
Maybe when the first politicians get sick we will have a change in attitude.

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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP