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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Jaysus.
    The hoax, is a hoax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Gods Gift wrote: »
    Jaysus.
    The hoax, is a hoax.

    Time to shut down the ports & airports so :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    ixoy wrote: »
    So we'd have international business as usual with our neighbours who are shut down..

    Internal and international are two different words with different meanings and actually spelt differently too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Serious and Critical cases have dropped another % down to 17%

    CFR is barely hovering over 6% at the moment also.

    The real problem with the figures is that it's taking so long to confirm recoveries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Internal and international are two different words with different meanings and actually spelt differently too




    Hold on, actually - it is Juche you are proposing!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,850 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    It's 3 weeks to a month. Nobody is talking about turning us into a north Korean style hermit Kingdom where everyone must have the same haircut as Leo

    Point is that even Russia, while restricting some movement to contain the virus has not totally shut down.
    Closing down completely at this time is not a proportionate response and may be too much too soon.
    I do think that it's crazy to continue with St Patrick's Festival and other large gatherings so early into the incubation of the virus.
    It would make sense to be restrictive in this do that we have less infections and get back to normal in time for Summer season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    CFR is barely hovering over 6% at the moment also.

    The real problem with the figures is that it's taking so long to confirm recoveries.


    Could mean it is going down or could mean they healthcare in some locations are stretched. so stretched they can't even test as many people.


    Who knows!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭sjb25


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Rte now reporting it wasn't a hoax

    The HSE has written to members of a young musical group, asking them to self-isolate until Sunday 15 March.

    It is a precautionary measure linked to the first confirmed case of Covid-19 in the Republic of Ireland and arises from a community band session last Saturday over two hours, attended by the patient.

    No new confirmed case of the virus is involved and this is part of contact tracing by public health doctors.

    It applies to members of the band only and not to members of any other bands, who practice at the location, under the age of 10 or under 18 years of age.

    Earlier reports circulating that the letter was a hoax are untrue.
    So the hoax was a hoax

    https://images.app.goo.gl/KWoXgfeWZ4BMpZAp6


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Well you can see why everyone including national journalists also retracted the story a while ago when the department of health put this out at the same time.

    Either way its linked to the initial case. So why on earth was someone being tested for it allowed to go band practise and during the same time they were confirming the case of said person


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Almost certain I heard about this letter on Newstalk this morning and it's an elaborate fake.

    HSE have confirmed it’s real after some of it’s press office initially said it was fake.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Stop the lights. Panic over. We can all go home now ;)

    Taoiseach seeking Cabinet approval to establish special committee examining coronavirus impact

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/taoiseach-seeking-cabinet-approval-to-establish-special-committee-examining-coronavirus-impact-985339.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Monkeynut wrote: »
    Its just part of life now. We will most likely all get it or most of us.



    We just have to try and slow the process down of all getting it at the same time. Following the recommendations. Wash hands, etc. You get symptoms, self isolate.

    Or slow it down enough that most of us don't get it over the next 18-24 months by which time a vaccine will hopefully be produced and tested and ready for mass inoculation.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Well you can see why everyone including national journalists also retracted the story a while ago when the department of health put this out at the same time

    HSE and Dept. Of Health communication clearly broken down. Ridiculous really.

    Seen the twitter post this morning, has since been deleted. A complete YOKE. A yoke!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 Tomato1


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Rte now reporting it wasn't a hoax

    .

    The journal literally just reported it was a hoax.
    Which is it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Clearly my thoughts on closing the airports and ports to passengers is not a popular one. I haven't time to keep a conversation with 6 people going so il stop hogging the thread.

    The airports and ports aren't closing its business as usual. Enjoy your holidays whoever is going and wash your hands regularly.
    Peace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,383 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    sjb25 wrote: »

    Wooooowww the hoaxie coakie wooooowww the hoaxie coakiieee


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Yikes... I assumed it wasn't as I never see any sign of it being treated in that manner.

    Detailed reports on the type of Influenza and infection rates are compliled each year. This information is used to determine outbreak type and mortality afaik


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    You've got to laugh, only a few months ago we were scaring ourselves silly here in UK that the possible measures announced today would have to be put in place for a no deal Brexit. Now after thinking that was a lucky escape, here we are. Oh well...keep calm and carry on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Any truth in the rumour that the HSE are going to stop testing people because the Coronavirus complained about its GDPR rights?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 Tomato1


    HSE and Dept. Of Health communication clearly broken down. Ridiculous really.

    Seen the twitter post this morning, has since been deleted. A complete YOKE. A yoke!

    Communication is not the HSE's strong point.
    The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing on every possible level.

    Can't stress this enough. Anybody who works for the HSE will know.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭mlem123


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    For one thing, flu isn't a notifiable disease. If we want to relate it to a disease in the same category I think we should be saying, it's like TB pre-antibiotics.

    Positive Influenza is actually a notifiable disease


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/03/the-longest-holiday-parents-coping-with-coronavirus-school-closures-in-east-asia
    Wong and her two daughters, Chloe and Greeta, are at a co-working space in Jordan, Kowloon. Chloe has set her desk up like home, with an iPad, her own lamp, and an aromatherapy diffuser. The girls, aged 12 and eight, are listening to online lessons from their school which has been closed because of the coronavirus.

    I wonder will our school system be able to do something like this or will they just make the kids come into school in the summer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    Swine flu was announced as a pandemic back in 2009 but coverage would not have been as widespread as today across the likes of social media.

    HSE did issue recommendations to schools etc (as they did this week again for Coronavirus) but I don't remember there being the same sense of panic or worry.

    Is it because we know too much about what happens around the world these days? Ignorance is bliss and all that.

    I know they are different viruses and all that but it's probably the closest scenario in recent times bar Sars, Mers, ebola which remained further away from home thankfully.

    Even today people still die from swine flu Ireland.

    There are a number of court cases ongoing for side effects from the vaccine that was quickly developed.

    Some swine flu tidbits from 2009.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dG3DTL2tXn8

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4xfiPRxcXp4

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-CGuduXqDOs

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cZdXfzF_zRk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,283 ✭✭✭kenmc


    sjb25 wrote: »

    And people say that china are covering sh¹t up.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    The selfishness of people never fails to shock me.<br /><br />
    <br /><br />
    Twitter and airline phone lines other channels full of self absorbed worrywarts asking if their flights from London to NYC in NOVEMBER are going to be affected....would you not fcking take a seat and let the people who are trying to sort out plans for the next week, with urgent needs, get through to talk to airline reps? <br /><br />
    <br /><br />
    What goes through these people's heads? They can see families with flights to Italy tomorrow asking what to do, people who are booked to Korea next week asking if they can cancel and get a refund, and they think it's a good time to ask about their holiday to an unaffected region, months from now??<br /><br />
    <br /><br />
    <a href="{smilies}/confused.png" border="0" alt="" title="Confused" smilieid="2" class="inlineimg" />
    People in the west have got so used to having everything on tap and living in relative luxury that we think it's the norm. It's not. Most days for most of us are a bonus compared to what life is basically like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,144 ✭✭✭omega man


    The Nal wrote: »
    Close the airports and the ports. Stop all imports of food and medicine.

    Makes sense.

    And add the hundreds of thousands on unpaid leave, all very sensible indeed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,837 ✭✭✭quokula


    Looks like it was a mess up because somebody in the HSE thought it was a hoax purporting to be a new case and they were aware there have been no more cases, but it was just another piece of correspondence that's part of the same case. They need to get on top of those kinds of slip ups, but it's kind of understandable with the amount of misinformation flying around that they're trying to combat.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Effects wrote: »
    HSE have confirmed it’s real after some of it’s press office initially said it was fake.

    This is exactly what your man was talking about on Claire Byrne last night. There needs to be one cohesive voice and everyone needs to be on the same page. He said you can't have one spokesperson saying one thing and another saying something else.

    They must have known that letter would be shared and they should have been ready to simply say "yes it's related to the first case. There is still only one case" . Simple. Instead they accused the public of fabricating letters. How can they not see that they are creating mistrust with that carry on?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Monkeynut wrote: »
    Could mean it is going down or could mean they healthcare in some locations are stretched. so stretched they can't even test as many people.


    Who knows!

    If they can't test as many I'd expect it to go up, as only serious or critical cases would be tested in that instance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Swine flu was announced as a pandemic back in 2009 but coverage would not have been as widespread as today across the likes of social media.

    HSE did issue recommendations to schools etc (as they did this week again for Coronavirus) but I don't remember there being the same sense of panic or worry.

    Is it because we know too much about what happens around the world these days? Ignorance is bliss and all that.

    I know they are different viruses and all that but it's probably the closest scenario in recent times bar Sars, Mers, ebola which remained further away from home thankfully.

    Even today people still die from swine flu Ireland.

    There are a number of court cases ongoing for side effects from the vaccine that was quickly developed.

    Some swine flu tidbits from 2009.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dG3DTL2tXn8

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4xfiPRxcXp4

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-CGuduXqDOs

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cZdXfzF_zRk

    About 20 times the mortality rate and a much higher Infection rate. It has the characteristics of a much greater threat


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