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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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  • #5462
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,274 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    sjb25 wrote: »
    Boris will shake hands with everyone

    https://www.facebook.com/164665060214766/posts/3479244058756833/?vh=e&d=n


    The comments section :eek:


  • #5463
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0303/1119921-coronavirus/


  • #5464
    joe40
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Up to 30% of those that spread the flu exhibit no symptoms themselves. See point 5.

    https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/10-flu-myths

    Is that the same for covid-19. According to HSE literature they were uncertain about that at this stage.


  • #5465
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,683 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    the butcher wrote: »
    "expected to miss us by about 16.36 times the distance from Earth to the Moon."

    giphy.gif


  • #5466
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    That's really interesting. I actually did learn something from this thread today

    "You haven't got the flu, but a cold. If you had the flu you would know all about it" is only true in a minority (about 25%) of cases.


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  • #5467
    Steve F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭Steve F


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Up to 30% of those that spread the flu exhibit no symptoms themselves. See point 5.

    https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/10-flu-myths

    Love point number 7 also.However Irish Mammys and Grannies' wouldn't like it :pac:


  • #5468
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    It's 3 weeks to a month. Nobody is talking about turning us into a north Korean style hermit Kingdom where everyone must have the same haircut as Leo


    How long do you reckon it would take for - businesses to start folding, people to run out of money, food, medicine, patience??


    Mention of Leo makes you look even more ridiculous tbh,

    Go and wash your hands.


  • #5469
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    joe40 wrote: »
    Is that the same for covid-19. According to HSE literature they were uncertain about that at this stage.

    Unknown as of yet. But if it turned out to be true, Covid-19 won't be stopped IMO if you had that number of 'silent' carriers.


  • #5470
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    sjb25 wrote: »
    Boris will shake hands with everyone

    https://www.facebook.com/164665060214766/posts/3479244058756833/?vh=e&d=n


    Well you normally wouldn't wish bad on anyone but if you had to choose one cunt to get it.........


  • #5471
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Deleted User wrote: »
    "You haven't got the flu, but a cold. If you had the flu you would know all about it" is only true in a minority (about 25%) of cases.

    I will be more inclined to get a flu shot as a result of that. Didn't fully understand the implications. I have got it in the past but not every year I must admit.


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  • #5472
    kenmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,283 ✭✭✭kenmc


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Well you normally wouldn't wish bad on anyone but if you had to choose one cunt to get it.........
    I'm hoping it's you (least your username). No offense


  • #5473
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    I've been on these threads a lot over the past few weeks and have noticed a good few of posters playing this up seem to have a real issue with Leo Varadkar, the HSE, or both.



    Doesn't matter what the topic is man - Shriekers gonna shriek


  • #5474
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Well you normally wouldn't wish bad on anyone but if you had to choose one cunt to get it.........

    that would be the Iranian Ayatollah, anyone else is just being mean :pac:

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #5475
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Akrasia wrote: »
    And most of the same people who call people 'alarmists' for believing the science on climate change, are now declaring the end of the world, calling for the whole country to be locked down and calling all the experts idiots who don't know what they're talking about

    It's mad, the economic harm from shutting the borders of our 'Small Open Economy' for the ??? length of time it would take to wait for this global pandemic to blow over, would cover the cost of buying every single household in the country an EV (assuming it knocked a conservative 15% off our GNP)

    Are they really? Have you done a full statistical analysis? I really would love to see that. Otherwise its comple bs.

    You seem to be obsessed. Any discussion. - 'Those who disagree with me about Y - all believe X'. Give it a rest ffs. The Coronavirus is not yet another opportunity to soapbox on your favourite topic.

    Yes there are screaming ninja alarmists and there are the do nothing - 'sure were all grand' posters. That goes for a lot of threads.

    In this thread I see lots of posters discussing a whole range of scenarios ranging from implementing no controls whatsoever - to placing a moratorium on flights from infected regions - all the way up to lock the door and turn off the lights.

    As for an example of a country under lockdown- we already have one - China. They did it to stop the spread of the virus. If you believe the figures they seem to be winning.

    Interestingly not the first time the world has seen countries closing borders and / or imposing restrictions. WW2 might make an intersting study. And no I'm not saying its the exact same btw.


    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/emergency-economics-ireland-during-the-second-world-war-1.1861902


  • #5476
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Up to 30% of those that spread the flu exhibit no symptoms themselves. See point 5.

    https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/10-flu-myths

    This refers to the Influenza virus NOT Coronavirus

    Apples and Oranges !


  • #5477
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    For one thing, flu isn't a notifiable disease. If we want to relate it to a disease in the same category I think we should be saying, it's like TB pre-antibiotics.

    Yes that’s also a very good point!


  • #5478
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Youd have to wonder about the mental health of people who put out those fake HSE letters


  • #5479
    Monkeynut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Or constructing a giant dome to place over the country? Frankly I think it's a disgrace the government aren't considering these measures. You can't be too careful.


    There was talk of building a dome in the weather forum last week.


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=112615105


    Maybe a joint project will keep the costs down. :mad:


  • #5480
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,406 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0303/1119921-coronavirus/

    I'm gonna quote from that article as not everyone will follow the link:

    Professor John Oxford, a virologist based in the UK... he said, the Chinese postponed the Chinese New Year celebrations because of the virus. They took it so seriously, he said.
    He added that a "big outbreak" could be prevented by cancelling St Patrick's Day events.
    He cited Italy as an example who he said "sat there for weeks thinking they didn't have a case, suddenly there was an explosion. They're the new epicentre now."

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #5481
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    joe40 wrote: »
    So what happens after 3 weeks to a month. The Virus will still exist, there will still be no vaccine.
    Back where we started with severe economic disruption.

    The situation will have to be reviewed. Who knows what happens in the meantime other countries may adopt the same approach or spiral out of control. Their economies will be far worse off. Ireland could be a Corona free zone with internal business as usual while our neighbors are shut down and overwhelmed.
    Close the borders. Do it now. Contain the virus


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  • #5482
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    The situation will have to be reviewed. Who knows what happens in the meantime other countries may adopt the same approach or spiral out of control. Their economies will be far worse off. Ireland could be a Corona free zone with internal business as usual while our neighbors are shut down and overwhelmed.
    Close the borders. Do it now. Contain the virus


    Can you provide some substance for this argument, am intrigued!


  • #5483
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    This refers to the Influenza virus NOT Coronavirus

    Apples and Oranges !


    I know that, but if Coronavirus eventually turns out to have roughly the same percentage of 'silent' carriers you won't stop it in the long run IMO.


  • #5484
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,039 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    The situation will have to be reviewed. Who knows what happens in the meantime other countries may adopt the same approach or spiral out of control. Their economies will be far worse off. Ireland could be a Corona free zone with internal business as usual while our neighbors are shut down and overwhelmed.

    So we'd have international business as usual with our neighbours who are shut down..


  • #5485
    Tomato1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27 ✭Tomato1


    Still no updates from National Ambulances Service management beyond the A4 sheet of paper they gave us back in January.

    Well that's a lie. We did receive an email saying we all need to log on Moodle and watch a video of how to put on a flu kit and mask.

    Y'know the kits we haven't been issued. The kits we all scrambled for and raided the stock rooms for what little supply we have from last winter.
    Masks? Try rob them from the emergency department store room lads.

    Some clinical information and reading would be nice! Literally anything. We're being kept in the dark.

    I'm not panicking about the situation currently, but it's such a joke the lack of action.

    I'm more afraid of NAS and HSE management trying to identify my boards account and disciplining me than I am of the virus at this stage.

    It would be nice to see them get off their holes for once and do a bit of work for the boots on the ground.


  • #5486
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Serious and Critical cases have dropped another % down to 17%


  • #5487
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    The situation will have to be reviewed. Who knows what happens in the meantime other countries may adopt the same approach or spiral out of control. Their economies will be far worse off. Ireland could be a Corona free zone with internal business as usual while our neighbors are shut down and overwhelmed.
    Close the borders. Do it now. Contain the virus

    If the government weren't prepared to do this a month ago, I can't see it happening now, the calculus hasn't fundamentally changed.


  • #5488
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    For one thing, flu isn't a notifiable disease. If we want to relate it to a disease in the same category I think we should be saying, it's like TB pre-antibiotics.

    I think you will find that Influenza is indeed a notifiable disease

    https://www.hpsc.ie/notifiablediseases/listofnotifiablediseases/


  • #5489
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    GM228 wrote: »
    Ryanair cancelled a quarter of Italian flights last night as has BA and many other airlines around the world.

    The airline industry will also be badly hit and will no doubt use it as an excuse for cuts etc., Cathy Pacific for example has grounded more than half it's fleet and laid off (temporarily) 25,000 of it's 33,,000 workforce.

    It is predicted that this could affect the airline far worse than for example 9/11 or the SARS outbreak, it took the airline industry years to fully recover from 9/11.

    Excuse? to be fair it would seem like a perfectly valid reason to cut back. Or would people prefer they go to the wall?


  • #5490
    Monkeynut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I know that, but if Coronavirus eventually turns out to have roughly the same percentage of 'silent' carriers you won't stop it in the long run IMO.


    Its just part of life now. We will most likely all get it or most of us.



    We just have to try and slow the process down of all getting it at the same time. Following the recommendations. Wash hands, etc. You get symptoms, self isolate.


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  • #5491
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,406 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    gozunda wrote: »
    I think you will find that Influenza is indeed a notifiable disease https://www.hpsc.ie/notifiablediseases/listofnotifiablediseases/

    Yikes... I assumed it wasn't as I never see any sign of it being treated in that manner.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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