Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

1…144145147149150…318

Comments

  • #4382
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Don't have Italy, but here is France

    FRNC.png?itok=fUtikjzs

    that's a lot of new cases


  • #4383
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    gmisk wrote: »
    Has anyone found a good set of graphs etc about Italy? That are up to date?

    I am due to go mid April to lake garda I am not keen husband is still pretty adamant he wants to go.
    He is citing the fact the flights are still running and only 12 towns are locked down.

    I am happy to see if things change in few weeks but I am doubtful they will change for the good tbh...

    The wikipedia page is good and updated frequently

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_outbreak_in_Italy


  • #4384
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Unearthly wrote: »
    Yeah most of the multinationals have plans in place for all such events. Although it's very inconvenient to them and will cost them money, they'll survive. Their employees in Ireland will be well looked after as well in terms of salary

    If anything it'll save them money if they already have the infrastructure, software licensing etc in place. Close the office down and their heating and lighting usage is down, particularly at this time of the year


  • #4385
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    tuxy wrote: »
    Many of the larger businness have been making plans to do this for a while now, not just google.
    Someone I know who works in insurance has said their employer order hundreads of laptops over a week ago.

    Yeah most companies have something in place already

    Our own one was tested during the snow 2 years ago.


  • #4386
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Lord Trollington wrote: »
    Showing the way to/for what exactly ?

    Soylent Green.


  • Advertisement
  • #4387
    PokeHerKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,877 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Pseudonym121 wrote: »
    There are portions of contracts in the HSE for Consultants which state that if you want to talk to the media etc you need to get clearance from management and your Clinical Director not only to speak but also about what you are going to say. Not doing this can result in disciplinary action and firing. You can be certain to prevent scaremongering that the HSE is insisting that everything go through their media office. This is NOT the same as a cover-up. It is simply prudent information management allowing checking of info and accuracy before release. Call of coverups is real scaremongering and unwarranted.

    With that said let’s just be clear on this. Coronavirus is going to spread through the population in Ireland and most of the world - hence it being a pandemic. It will have a 1-2% mortality but in Ireland and the UK our health services will function far better than in most of the world, including America. You’ll be amazed at how badly America will do and the per capita death rate there compared to here. Eg. They lose 36,000 to flu every year. Ireland loses 120 (roughly). If we had the same population as them we should have about 600 flu deaths a year. We don’t because we have a good public health care system vs the shambles in America.

    Coronavirus will spread, it will cause deaths in Ireland and it will drag on into 2021. It is not, however, the apocalypse people seem to be fearing.

    Hand wash with soap and hot water, don’t go to huge gatherings and if you think you might have it phone your GP and follow their advice. Being histrionic and engaging in conspiracy theories won’t help, will actively make this worse and will make the jobs of doctors like myself and my nursing colleagues harder.

    I’m a Consultant in the Irish health care system.

    If 2% of people who got the flu every year in Ireland in you'd be looking at many 1000s dead.


  • #4388
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Kaisr Sose wrote: »
    I don't care if they are or are not a consultant, the post was informed and balanced. If as you say, anyone can write, off you go and write a balanced and informed post. If you can't, that's not a problem, just don't knock others for doing so.

    Balanced and informed.

    He said the virus will spread throughout Ireland and people will die.
    That's more of a guess based on other countries.
    The common flu spreads throughout Ireland each year and people die.

    More power to him. I didn't mean to upset you.


  • #4389
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    I'd say you kidnapped him. You're obsessed with him.

    :pac: My own private stalker. Weird

    Sorry fans I work for a living can't spend all day long pointing out the obvious.


  • #4390
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Most of Google’s 8,000 employees and contractors in Ireland have been told to work from home tomorrow after a member of staff reported flu-like symptoms.

    ..


  • #4391
    Pseudonym121
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Pseudonym121


    Andre Spoiled Lacrosse wrote: »
    That implies Ireland's population is one fifth that of the USA. The USA has a population of 327 million. Ireland has a population of less than 5 million.

    No, it implies that the Irish population is 1/60th of the size of America’s population. 36,000/60= 600. 327/60 =5.5 million approximately. I rounded to keep things simple.

    In my job, as you might imagine, precision is important. Precision and accuracy are also important in dealing with people rushing to judgement without facts and/or a basic grasp of maths, epidemiology and disease processes etc.


  • Advertisement
  • #4392
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,419 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    South Korea would have a handle on it but for
    About 60% of the country's more than 4,000 confirmed cases are members of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus religious sect. Members are believed to have infected one another and then travelled around the country, apparently undetected

    Each and every one of them should be fired into the sun.


  • #4393
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    tuxy wrote: »
    Many of the larger businness have been making plans to do this for a while now, not just google.
    Someone I know who works in insurance has said their employer order hundreads of laptops over a week ago.

    A cure in the form of chocolate drops will be developed quicker than hundreds of laptops bullt, delivered, imaged and rolled out to staff.


  • #4394
    KingBobby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭KingBobby


    hurikane wrote: »
    With the same population as the USA, we would only have 600 flu deaths a year? Doesn’t add up.

    Is the post suggesting that the states has a population merely 5 times that of Ireland?


  • #4395
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    coastwatch wrote: »
    This post should be a Sticky in the Resources Thread

    The only problem with it is that it doesn't mention the severity of the problems countries have with their health system if there is even moderate spread (South Korea, China, Iran).

    Dr Michael Ryan of the WHO warned "It doesn't matter what country you're in this disease will stretch your health system". Which is putting it mildly.

    Before China put in the bans, that stretch caused near collapse of the system. They had to fly in 40,000 health care workers and lock down to get things back from the brink.

    So if we are talking about accepting its spread, we have to understand how quickly it causes serious problems in the system.


  • #4396
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    The narkyness is strong in this one

    The stupidity and need for likes and reassurance are strong in this one.

    That little tale about a bat hanging upside down with disinfectant was like something a 6 year old would make up.


  • #4397
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,411 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Pseudonym121 wrote: »
    No, it implies that the Irish population is 1/60th of the size of America’s population. 36,000/60= 600. 327/60 =5.5 million approximately. I rounded to keep things simple.

    In my job, as you might imagine, precision is important. Precision and accuracy are also important in dealing with people rushing to judgement without facts and/or a basic grasp of maths, epidemiology and disease processes etc.

    You don't even know the population of the Republic of Ireland and you expect to be taken seriously... Calling foul on this play.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #4398
    channaigh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭channaigh


    Pseudonym121 wrote: »
    No, it implies that the Irish population is 1/60th of the size of America’s population. 36,000/60= 600. 327/60 =5.5 million approximately. I rounded to keep things simple.

    In my job, as you might imagine, precision is important. Precision and accuracy are also important in dealing with people rushing to judgement without facts and/or a basic grasp of maths, epidemiology and disease processes etc.

    So if you had flights booked to go to Amsterdam on Friday for the weekend would you go asking for a friend :))


  • #4399
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Pseudonym121 wrote: »
    There are portions of contracts in the HSE for Consultants which state that if you want to talk to the media etc you need to get clearance from management and your Clinical Director not only to speak but also about what you are going to say. Not doing this can result in disciplinary action and firing. You can be certain to prevent scaremongering that the HSE is insisting that everything go through their media office. This is NOT the same as a cover-up. It is simply prudent information management allowing checking of info and accuracy before release. Call of coverups is real scaremongering and unwarranted.

    With that said let’s just be clear on this. Coronavirus is going to spread through the population in Ireland and most of the world - hence it being a pandemic. It will have a 1-2% mortality but in Ireland and the UK our health services will function far better than in most of the world, including America. You’ll be amazed at how badly America will do and the per capita death rate there compared to here. Eg. They lose 36,000 to flu every year. Ireland loses 120 (roughly). If we had the same population as them we should have about 600 flu deaths a year. We don’t because we have a good public health care system vs the shambles in America.

    Coronavirus will spread, it will cause deaths in Ireland and it will drag on into 2021. It is not, however, the apocalypse people seem to be fearing.

    Hand wash with soap and hot water, don’t go to huge gatherings and if you think you might have it phone your GP and follow their advice. Being histrionic and engaging in conspiracy theories won’t help, will actively make this worse and will make the jobs of doctors like myself and my nursing colleagues harder.

    I’m a Consultant in the Irish health care system.
    Just to be clear this is an anonymous internet poster and their views carry no more nor less weight than anyone else on this site as they do not have verified rep status


  • #4400
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    It's a break from the never ending climate change chat all the same.


  • #4401
    Monkeynut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Some lad seemed very confident earlier about there being 700 new cases announced there today.

    Italy new cases
    36a24b91b90f811ae2f62e7d2144c032d874161c.png


  • Advertisement
  • #4402
    Kaisr Sose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,683 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Balanced and informed.

    He said the virus will spread throughout Ireland and people will die.
    That's more of a guess based on other countries.
    The common flu spreads throughout Ireland each year and people die.

    More power to him. I didn't mean to upset you.

    I am not upset at all. As I said the post was balanced and informed. You seem to agree now.


  • #4403
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    You don't even know the population of the Republic of Ireland and you expect to be taken seriously... Calling foul on this play.

    HSE getting their figures wrong, you'd have thought that eh.


  • #4404
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    Or feel the need to expectorate the contents of their nose/throat/lungs onto the ground like the charming gent who got off the bus in front of me this morning and immediately did a fcuking huge gollier onto the footpath.

    Ah C'mere to me. Your post brought me right back, it's absolutely YEARS since I heard that word gollier. Thanks for that.


  • #4405
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Pseudonym121 wrote: »
    No, it implies that the Irish population is 1/60th of the size of America’s population. 36,000/60= 600. 327/60 =5.5 million approximately. I rounded to keep things simple.

    In my job, as you might imagine, precision is important. Precision and accuracy are also important in dealing with people rushing to judgement without facts and/or a basic grasp of maths, epidemiology and disease processes etc.

    Sorry that doesn't add up for me

    In a population 1/60th the size we have approx. 120 flu deaths a year.

    So with 60 times the population surely the figure would be 120x60 = 7200?

    Still significantly lower than 36000


  • #4406
    Speak Now
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,764 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    hurikane wrote: »
    With the same population as the USA, we would only have 600 flu deaths a year? Doesn’t add up.

    Worded wrong I'd say he meant if we had the same death rate from flu we'd be at 600 instead of 120. Makes sense if you crunch his USA numbers.


  • #4407
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Kaisr Sose wrote: »
    I am not upset at all. As I said the post was balanced and informed. You seem to agree now.

    Not even a little bit. Each to their own though.


  • #4408
    Cuckoo7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    Boggles wrote: »
    South Korea would have a handle on it but for



    Each and every one of them should be fired into the sun.
    Didn’t their leader get on his knees to ask forgiveness and said it wasn’t intentional?
    Such a weird thing to see.


  • #4409
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    I thought I heard Italy were changing their test criteria recently, anyone know how long ago that was?


  • #4410
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    gozunda wrote: »
    To be fair I dont think any (many?) really believe there is some type of a cover up.

    State organised contingency planning has a fairly woeful reputation in this country imo. Maybe things have changed and we are fully prepared - that said I have my doubts.

    At present - the HSE etc appear to have adopted a fairly restrictive set of criteria for testing possible cases. This despite similar prescriptive type testing having been highlighted as being a factor in the rapid initial spread in Wuhan etc

    It is also noticable that there have been no initiative to date to set up testing or quarantine for returning individuals from affected regions as seen in the UK. Relevant departments cite the WHO's advisory as the rationale behind this. This despite the WHO praising China doing just that.

    To me the whole approach so far seems fairly hap hazard so far. Now maybe the hamsters are furiously peddling away - but for the lack of effective communication - you'd be hard pushed to know it tbh.

    Agreed. Far too lax and people flying in from affected areas should be quarantined. I doubt we will contain this the way China did. We have zero restrictions or quarantine for people. Heard on a radio show in a shop that there wasn’t even soap in the toilets in the Dublin airport!!

    China closed down cities to contain this and did a good job of doing so imo. People downplaying this as ‘just another cold or flu’ are irresponsible and don't comprehend how people beyond themselves can be seriously ill with this. They don’t comprehend the strain and knock on affects it will have on health services. No doubt this mentality will have it rampant here in no time.

    There is no need for panic but I feel this needs to be taken seriously to protect vulnerable people.


  • Advertisement
  • #4411
    TomSweeney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Boggles wrote: »
    South Korea would have a handle on it but for



    Each and every one of them should be fired into the sun.


    Religious nutters, an evangelist group is behind one of the clusters in Spain too - these f*cking c*nts are dangerous - they believe it's all God's plan, so they will either get it/not get it / die/not die anyway.




    The hazards of belief!


This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement