Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

BloodBath wrote: »

These videos aren't proof of anything. Where is the statistical data? Where are you pulling numbers from?

Some videos of empty streets in 2 cities affected somehow translates into 700+ million in your mind? Oh but it has the 28 days later music to make it scary!

How many cities are like this? Where do you get 700m number from? I did see some clickbait using this number with no source.

Complete China wide travel ban? Again where are you getting this information? The dark web? My searches don't show any supporting evidence for anything you are saying. Not even clickbait. China containing all the information I suppose.

Getting pretty sick of the level of muppetry on this thread.

Calm yerself and remember China kicked out foreign press and have a great firewall.

The whole country extended the new year festival: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-holidays-idUSKBN1ZP0PQ

which means nobody was travelling home i.e. a travel ban for the country. If you can find any information that says people travelled home at the normal time I'd like to see it.

More than half of businesses extend to Feb 10:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/01/coronavirus-more-of-china-extend-shutdown-accounting-for-80percent-of-gdp.html

Here is the new york times mentioning the 700 million:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/15/business/china-coronavirus-lockdown.html

The lockdowns were of varying strictness as you say. Though you underestimate (without any evidence) how severe and vast these were and how many people isolated.

The announcement at the top came from the central government and then the local governments applied their own restrictions.

The accounts I read and heard at the time included places like Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzen.

Then there were posters on here, including cameramonkey today who posted "In most areas in China all the people I talked to said their normal life has stopped , they have been sitting at home for the last month only going out once a week for supplies."

No reason for them to lie but I'm sure you'll find a problem with it. There was another poster klaz who seemingly had many contacts countrywide. He gave out to me for talking about 'unverified' stuff and then a few days later he came back and said he was now hearing it from his contacts in China.

And lastly a bit of context, a coincidence:

"This year, the reduction rate is more significant than in past years and it has lasted longer," Ms Liu said.

"I am not surprised because many cities nationwide have taken measures to minimise spread of the virus."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51691967

A HR policy was circulated today for all HSE workers for the redeployment of staff in the event of a national pandemic.  It was written in 2010.

This is the gist
As the demand for health services increases the number of staff available to provide services may decrease due to absentees from illness.
Major emergency services must be maintained. 

Services are prioritised in 4 categories.
Priority 1: services that have to be maintained at all times during a crisis
Priority 2: services that may be suspended for a short period of time (less than 1 week)
Priority 3: services that may be suspended for a period (up to 1 month)
Priority 4: services that may be suspended for the entire period of the crisis
 
Staff in positions that are suspended will be deemed available to be redeployed to assist higher priority areas. Employees at risk of becoming ill (pregnant or immunocompromised) will be moved to non direct contact areas.

If necesssry, the services may be required of those that have retired in the last 2 years. Staff with nursing or other knowledgeable may be upskilled and deployed where they are needed.
Arrangements may be made to outsource work or engage agency staff if HSE staff cant be deployed.

Staff may be required to work different hours at a different location. Refusal of redeployment will be handled in accordance of the HSE grievance and disciplinary procedure. All scheduled annual leave will be cancelled for the duration of the crisis.

It will be interesting to see how this virus develops over the coming months. Looking at temperture readings, Lombardy in Italy is currently around 7 degrees with 98% humidity, Milan is around 11 with Seoul in SK ranging from 0-11 so very similar to our weather at present. Only difference is those countries get very warm during the summer months vs us which goes to about 18/19 degrees generally.

However I would say there is research being done on how it is spreading based on temperature. Wuhan is ranging from about 6-11 degrees aswell so all very similar at the moment. Saudi Arabia is currently 17 degrees to 26 degrees and just announced their first case, so will be very interesting to watch how the virus develops in that country.

Martina1991 wrote: »

A HR policy was circulated today for all HSE workers for the redeployment of staff in the event of a national pandemic.  It was written in 2010.

This is the gist
As the demand for health services increases the number of staff available to provide services may decrease due to absentees from illness.
Major emergency services must be maintained. 

Services are prioritised in 4 categories.
Priority 1: services that have to be maintained at all times during a crisis
Priority 2: services that may be suspended for a short period of time (less than 1 week)
Priority 3: services that may be suspended for a period (up to 1 month)
Priority 4: services that may be suspended for the entire period of the crisis
 
Staff in positions that are suspended will be deemed available to be redeployed to assist higher priority areas. Employees at risk of becoming ill (pregnant or immunocompromised) will be moved to non direct contact areas.

If necesssry, the services may be required of those that have retired in the last 2 years. Staff with nursing or other knowledgeable may be upskilled and deployed where they are needed.
Arrangements may be made to outsource work or engage agency staff if HSE staff cant be deployed.

Staff may be required to work different hours at a different location. Refusal of redeployment will be handled in accordance of the HSE grievance and disciplinary procedure. All scheduled annual leave will be cancelled for the duration of the crisis.

Does this include nurses aged 55+ ? would there age place them in a high risk group?

fritzelly wrote: »

A female in her 70s, a resident of LifeCare, hospitalized at EvergreenHealth in Kirkland.
A woman in her 80s, who was already reported as in critical condition at Evergreen
A male in his 70s, a resident of LifeCare, hospitalized at EvergreenHealth in Kirkland.

But how many have now been infected and how widespread is it?

Judging by this post, just the nursing home!

https://twitter.com/SeanMJourno/status/1234561340154548226

Explanation of how the HSE are tracking and when to be concerned etc

Why do people keep talking about the heat will help stop the virus spreading?

Singapore is currently 28 degrees at 3am.

I keep seeing that the heat will help but also reports that the heat won't help.

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

How's Canada in all this? I haven't heard much about them or does cannabis help them from contracting the virus?

Wasn't there a case in Quebec quite recently, yup, a report from 3 days ago.

bodhrandude wrote: »

Wasn't there a case in Quebec quite recently, yup, a from 3 days ago.

As,of yesterday 24 cases confirmed in Canada according to their government webpage.
15 of them in Ontario.