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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    I wonder do a lot of politicians or ex establishment figures have a vested interest in the horse racing game and pressue is being brought to bare?

    Paddy Power must have spent a fortune on their cheltenham advert. I dunno how many times I’ve seen it over the weekend now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭dan786


    The risk of coronavirus in the European Union has risen from moderate to high, the president of the European Commission has confirmed.

    Source: Sky News


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    This 'School in the East' type thing is not full disclosure. I think naming the school yesterday would have been perfectly reasonable. Trust erodes when people perceive that they aren't being told the whole truth, it implies that there is something to hide.
    Trust also erodes when people think their right to privacy will not be respected.

    Imagine that you present today to your GP. He suspects coronavirus, you get tested and confirmed.

    So they ring your workplace and tell them you've got coronavirus. Then they publish the name of your workplace and the fact that a case has been discovered there.

    Only problem is, your workplace is a secretary and two solicitors. And you're the secretary. Think about the impact of that, and how many people now know that YOU have coronavirus. People you didn't tell, people you don't really know. Idiots who will take their business elsewhere, because infection, or something. People who will tell their kids to stop playing with your kids, who will give you weird looks in the supermarket in six months time.

    Now imagine you're not the poor bastard who's been outed on the national news.

    You're an onlooker, working in a similarly small business or similarly small town. You've been feeling a bit poorly.

    Do you think the actions of the HSE are going to encourage you to come forward for testing? Or are you more likely to wait it out and see what happens?

    I appreciate that the name of the school may not be immediately private information, but people are well able to put two & two together. And as we can see from this thread, are well able to panic - "I walked past that school 3 weeks ago! OMFFFGGGGG!!!!".

    By not releasing the information publically, the HSE are maintaining a basic pillar of any health system - trust that your privacy is of the utmost importance unless there is a massively compelling reason to breach it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    Seven positives in Roman hospital.
    First case in Sardinia.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    givyjoe wrote: »
    That's what China did.. fact. Chinas numbers, if we believe them, are decreasing. Numbers are not decreasing anywhere else.

    Where did I suggest it? I said in other posts it's not feasible and wouldn't be accepted. Perhaps take a deep breath and read posts fully before you start having pops at people.

    You're going around shooting down people that say hopefully it ll trail off when the weather gets warm, bashing the HSE response, but when questioned what response would be good enough for you, you have no answer only avoidance.

    Perhaps you should take your own advice.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 564 ✭✭✭2ygb4cmqetsjhx


    dan786 wrote: »
    The risk of coronavirus in the European Union has risen from moderate to high, the president of the European Commission has confirmed.

    Source: Sky News

    Lol. Italy is now at the stage Wuhan was in January. This isn't going away in the next few months. The economic impact alone will be a disaster.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ^^^^ but Ireland’s says “it’s low”

    How low can you go
    How low can you go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    I can understand fears around indoor events, but open air ones?

    Have you seen the toilets at those events? The hand washing facilities etc...it will spread like wildfire at an event such as Cheltenham


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    dan786 wrote: »
    The risk of coronavirus in the European Union has risen from moderate to high, the president of the European Commission has confirmed.

    Source: Sky News

    Quick! Someone inform Italy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭Sigma101


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    Italy is very strange in all this, it hasn’t spread outside of the north, yet the numbers are sky rocketing at a rate so far and above the rest of Europe
    Cases all over Italy at the moment (but mostly concentrated in the north and densely populated areas).
    984 in Lombardy
    285 in Emilia-Romagna
    263 in Veneto
    49 in Piedmont
    25 in Marche
    25 in Liguria
    17 in Campania
    13 in Tuscany
    9 in Sicily
    6 in Lazio
    6 in Friuli-Venezia Giulia
    5 in Abruzzo
    3 in Puglia
    2 in Umbria
    1in the Autonomous Province of Bolzano
    1 In Calabria
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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Quick! Someone inform Italy

    China is ringing em,now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    I wonder do a lot of politicians or ex establishment figures have a vested interest in the horse racing game and pressue is being brought to bare?

    I dont know, but st patricks day and cheltenham going ahead is insane.

    I've been called many things on this thread, for being too 'lax'.

    I dont think this virus is going to be all that disastrous, I think the worst of it will pass by April/May, and for the majority of us, even now, we will be fine. BUT we need to manage it.

    Having a (multiple)city wide street party is madness, especially one with 000's of foreign tourists when we have the ability to contain this now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    I wouldn't say so, more like one of those cases where the opening of a mouth removes all doubt etc. etc.

    Luckily random anonymous people on the internets opinion of my erroneous assumption of the climate in Iran based on geographical profiling isnt going to upset me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,291 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Is that not what China did?

    How would Ireland be implementing the restrictions of Wuhan, when there is just one confirmed case in the country?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 733 ✭✭✭synesthesia


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭dan786




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Strazdas wrote: »
    How would Ireland be implementing the restrictions of Wuhan, when there is just one confirmed case in the country?

    I think the idea is to not end up like Wuhan, by applying measures they did, in advance of the epidemic arriving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 IconAssassin


    wylo wrote: »
    Well that would be fine only 2% death rate is insanely high given the 100s of 1000s that could get this if not managed properly. A common cold isn’t that big a deal and can freely spread around the country without causing too disruption.

    But if 2% of people who got a cold died you can be sure all reactions would be the same.

    Do some proper research - the mortality rate is currently 3.4% based on global confirmed cases versus number of people who have died.

    covid19info.live


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    dan786 wrote: »

    I dont see how this comes as any surprise, I hate hearing people say they know more than experts in their field but I am really shocked at how HSE were able to say with any certainty than an outbreak is Ireland is'low risk', it is simply impossible to be able to say that with an infectious disease like this and still completely open borders to affected areas


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    What China have done at a minimum is what we should be doing right now. It's no use waiting until this letal virus has run wild.

    Lockdown cities, shut down the country basically? with 1 confirmed case? id be interested to see our capability if it comes to that, the logistics ect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Stupid politician makes stupid political statement, yet you blame a poster for politicising this?





    Have to say that while there is a little bit more specific information in the Dutch cases, it isn't really that different to the Irish situation. No names of schools, no names of workplaces, information that a hospital is closed so that people won't go there. The information on locality is more detailed, but that is only a matter of degree.

    The type of information being sought on social media in Ireland - flight numbers, bus journeys, train journeys, schools, names - is not being given out by the Dutch either.

    The poster insulted voters of a particular party thereby politicizing it.
    I’m keeping to the thread: the Dutch site is much more specific not “a little bit”. Towns are named not half a country “the East”. You actually see that later in your own paragraph.

    The USA names schools in at least one jurisdiction: https://www.doh.wa.gov/Newsroom/Articles/ID/1103/Additional-Cases-of-COVID-19-in-Washington-State

    There are differing approaches by public health officials world wide. The HSE need to articulate their rationale much better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Cases in Spain rise to 115 this morning
    Are advising health care providers to avoid any congress or large gathering.
    90% of the cases are imported.
    They are investigating a “religious group”, whatever that means.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    dan786 wrote: »
    The risk of coronavirus in the European Union has risen from moderate to high, the president of the European Commission has confirmed.

    Source: Sky News

    But according to the HSE its low.

    The lack of alignment is baffling. Seems we are governed by Europe when it suits


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    When are we going to be told to stay at home from work to drink cans for a few days?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    Luckily random anonymous people on the internets opinion of my erroneous assumption of the climate in Iran based on geographical profiling isnt going to upset me


    Racial assumptions too don't forget :D


    Regardless, I am actually very glad that it won't.


    Have a good day sir/madam!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,842 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    I dont know, but st patricks day and cheltenham going ahead is insane.

    I've been called many things on this thread, for being too 'lax'.

    I dont think this virus is going to be all that disastrous, I think the worst of it will pass by April/May, and for the majority of us, even now, we will be fine. BUT we need to manage it.

    Having a (multiple)city wide street party is madness, especially one with 000's of foreign tourists when we have the ability to contain this now

    and no point cancelling St Patricks day festivities too late, better to announce it early , for the postponement to actually be effective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Cupatae wrote: »
    You're going around shooting down people that say hopefully it ll trail off when the weather gets warm, bashing the HSE response, but when questioned what response would be good enough for you, you have no answer only avoidance.

    Perhaps you should take your own advice.
    I'm basing my posts on logic and facts, not wishful thinking. If you can't handle it, don't bother replying, go and whinge to someone else.

    What have I avoided? I simply stated that we are not going to see the same level of lockdown here. It won't be adhered to. You seem to have completely misunderstood a fairly basic point I made, twice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    One thing I'm certain of...reeling in the years 2020 is going to be s cracking watch..


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    KWAG2019 wrote: »
    The poster insulted voters of a particular party thereby politicizing it.
    I’m keeping to the thread: the Dutch site is much more specific not “a little bit”. Towns are named not half a country “the East”. You actually see that later in your own paragraph.

    The USA names schools in at least one jurisdiction: https://www.doh.wa.gov/Newsroom/Articles/ID/1103/Additional-Cases-of-COVID-19-in-Washington-State

    There are differing approaches by public health officials world wide. The HSE need to articulate their rationale much better.

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