Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

timmyntc wrote: »

The HSE are only testing people if they both show symptoms and have arrived from a highlighted region in the last 14 days. If your symptoms develop after 14 days, you wont be tested. If you got infected from an asymptomatic carrier, you wont be tested. If you caught it in England or Austria or Switzerland or France you wont be tested.

The strict regulations on testing are going to cause a mass outbreak, rather than prevent it.

The more you test, the longer it takes to get results.

If you test widely, you can be sure that the delays will result in one of the priority cases getting loose.

There are risks and balances that need to be considered by the experts. Anonymous internet posters like you and me aren't qualified to judge these.

turbbo wrote: »

"On 31 January, the first two cases of COVID-19 were confirmed in Rome. Two Chinese tourists, who arrived in Milan on 23 January via Milan Malpensa Airport and travelled to Rome on a tourist bus, tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 and were hospitalised in Lazzaro Spallanzani National Institute for Infectious Diseases"

"On 6 February, one of the Italians repatriated from Wuhan, China tested positive for COVID-19, bringing the total number of cases in Italy to three."

"The Lombardy outbreak came to light when a 38-year-old Italian tested positive for COVID-19 in Codogno, the province of Lodi, Lombardy. Previously, he met a friend who had returned from China on 21 January 2020. On 14 February, he felt unwell and went to a doctor in Castiglione d'Adda. He was prescribed treatments for influenza"

I guess stopping flights was a really dumb idea and caused it all. FFS the mind boggles.

Ok I’ll make this simple.
No where did my post say stopping travel will cause issues re virus containment/spreading.
If the ramblings of certain posters on this thread were followed we would be back to 1930’s Ireland from an economic point of view

cnocbui wrote: »

Has the principal named the student? If not, pack it in.

You don't have to name someone to breach GDPR. If there is a pupil that everyone knows has gone home from school, then it is a breach of privacy to talk about their medical condition and/or the appropriateness of their treatment.

A person is not just identifiable by name.

blanch152 wrote: »

The more you test, the longer it takes to get results.

If you test widely, you can be sure that the delays will result in one of the priority cases getting loose.

There are risks and balances that need to be considered by the experts. Anonymous internet posters like you and me aren't qualified to judge these.

If you don't test them at all because of their no obvious link to a previous case - you risk a priority case getting loose too.

The HSE advice should be to self isolate if you have symptoms - regardless of who you've been in contact with and where you've been. As we come into summer, there will be much less regular flu also so a much higher certainty that symptoms are coronavirus.

blanch152 wrote: »

The more you test, the longer it takes to get results.

If you test widely, you can be sure that the delays will result in one of the priority cases getting loose.

There are risks and balances that need to be considered by the experts. Anonymous internet posters like you and me aren't qualified to judge these.

So are you saying the countries that are doing far more tests per capita are getting it wrong?

Peatys wrote: »

Zoom out on a global warming chart

Don't compare science and the stock market please.

SeaBreezes wrote: »

I'm laughing at the concern for the economy shown here.
That's about as ostrich as it gets. The world economy is in free fall.
There is NO way out of the global recession that's coming.
And oddly the countries that manage the virus best will be first off their knees after.
At the moment that's looking like China.

If your economic predictions are correct, the least of your worries is the virus

timmyntc wrote: »

If you don't test them at all because of their no obvious link to a previous case - you risk a priority case getting loose too.

The HSE advice should be to self isolate if you have symptoms - regardless of who you've been in contact with and where you've been. As we come into summer, there will be much less regular flu also so a much higher certainty that symptoms are coronavirus.

Managing risk is one of the most misunderstood concepts not just in corporate governance but also in everyday life.

For a start, managing risk does not mean eliminating risk. Secondly, the effort involved and the cost of mitigation must be measured against the likelihood and severity of an adverse outcome. Thirdly, the balance of risks must also be considered.

In this situation, imagine if you devote the entirety of the State's blood testing and CT testing resources to checking widely whether anyone has coronavirus. If you do, you can be 100% certain that people will die in our hospitals from other conditions because there are no testing resources available. That could well be more than the total number of people who ever die in Ireland from coronavirus. If you don't there is the possibility that you might miss someone who might sometime have come in contact with the corona virus.

Those are the choices that the experts have to make. They know the capacity of the testing systems. They know the course of this disease. They know how many people will die because testing systems are devoted to the corona virus instead of something else. They then have to weigh all of this up and come to the correct decision in managing all of the risks.

Titclamp wrote: »

Does anyone believe this came from some clown eating bats?

Cant tell you to be honest due to GDPR

Clowns have rights too