Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

Ulysses Gaze · 26-02-2020 01:35AM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Could it be somehow linked to that mini outbreak in the French Alps a couple of weeks ago?

I would say that is a distinct possibility.

Unearthly · 26-02-2020 01:37AM

Just to emphasise how bad Northern Italy is. The following countries have now had confirmed cases from people coming from Italy.

Brazil, Algeria, Spain, Switzerland, Austria, France, Germany, Croatia

IRFU, that's all you need to know

CinemaGuy45 · 26-02-2020 01:41AM

Unearthly wrote: »

Just to emphasise how bad Northern Italy is. The following countries have now had confirmed cases from people coming from Italy.

Brazil, Algeria, Spain, Switzerland, Austria, France, Germany, Croatia

IRFU, that's all you need to know

Whats the point are you trying to make?

Sure that is only eight countries none of which have the HSE to protect them.

Sure it will be all grand.

cnocbui · 26-02-2020 01:43AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Main reason is that I believe that mortality of the virus is overstated at the moment. Containment strategies like cancelling the Italy game will reduce the spread of the virus which will reduce acute overwhelming of the HSE.

Secondly. We actually do have a great health service. The fact that we should have an even better health service for the money is a discussion for another day.

We have one the highest health care professional/ capita ratios in the world.

There are plans in place in hospitals (all around the country) to deal with virus if/when it arrives. Just because the general public doesn't hear about it doesn't mean it's not happening.

The fact that we are coming into summer is also a bonus as viral illnesses decrease during the summer months as we are not so closely packed together.

You can say thay again! http://www.finfacts.ie/Irish_finance_news/articleDetail.php?Ireland-second-highest-OECD-health-spending-poorest-outcomes-506

Ireland has the second-highest health spending ratio in OECD area which comprises of 34 mainly developed countries but it has some of the worst health outcomes among advanced countries.

jammiedodgers · 26-02-2020 01:44AM

froog wrote: »

Case confirmed in brazil. that's all continents now excluding antartica.

Not sure we can trust the numbers coming out of Antartica either

:pac:

26-02-2020 01:45AM

theguzman wrote: »

All air traffic in and out of the island of Ireland should be stopped immediately.

This may turn out, in time, to be the wisest post on the thread.

Candamir · 26-02-2020 01:45AM

turbbo wrote: »

No it doesn’t say anything about staying hydrated - staying hydrated wether you’re healthy or sick is a good idea. Will you re-read my last post before I have to copy and paste it again for you.

Calm down there dude!

Your link:
”1. Drink lots of water
Increasing your fluid— particularly water— intake can help keep viruses at bay.

Health Secretary Francisco Duque III told CNN Philippines’ The Source that a dry throat makes it easier for virus to enter one’s system.“

Being well hydrated keeps mucosal membranes moist. Thats what the advice here is telling you.
You don’t need to sip water every 15 minutes to do that. In fact, if you do need to do that, you are already dehydrated!

Anyway. Minor point. Let’s move on.

CinemaGuy45 · 26-02-2020 01:47AM

Deleted User wrote: »

This may turn out, in time, to be the wisest post on the thread.

When this happens it will be to protect the rest of the world from us not the other way around.

turbbo · 26-02-2020 01:52AM

Candamir wrote: »

Calm down there dude!

Your link:
”1. Drink lots of water
Increasing your fluid— particularly water— intake can help keep viruses at bay.

Health Secretary Francisco Duque III told CNN Philippines’ The Source that a dry throat makes it easier for virus to enter one’s system.“

Being well hydrated keeps mucosal membranes moist. Thats what the advice here is telling you.
You don’t need to sip water every 15 minutes to do that.

Anyway. Minor point. Let’s move on.

I’d imagine sipping water every 15 minutes would be an even better way of doing it. But hey each to their own I find the 2 bits remarkably similar - you don’t. Yeah I do think it’s time to move on - but not a lover of point scoring on somebody who posted something they thought sounded like good advice. Remember in Taiwan and Japan English is not their first language - my BS radar didn’t go off like yours did when i read that post.

26-02-2020 01:53AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I read it as such. In my eyes, it was a dig which I now realise was incorrect.says It happens a lot to pharmacists because of how much we earn. I apologise to Buile. Friends?.

Fo' shizzle Dizzle!

MaraMara · 26-02-2020 01:54AM

Unearthly wrote: »

2 more cases in Spain. Again they were in Italy. 7 confirmed in Spain last 24 hours. Source BNO

Italy spreading it all over the place now

Those two were in the same hotel in Tenerife as the other two Italian guests that were confirmed in the morning. So we can expect a few more from the same tourist resort.

Unearthly · 26-02-2020 02:07AM

South Korea 169 new cases bringing total to 1146. Source BNO.

They do 2 updates a day. Yesterday at this time they announced 60 so not good as it's nearly tripled. Worth noting though that they are testing a lot more people than other countries

26-02-2020 02:16AM

dark crystal wrote: »

Anywhere from 200 to 1000 deaths per year in Ireland.

Not one case of Corona Virus in Ireland, yet people are acting like it's armageddon.

When a case appears it may already have been circulating for a couple of weeks spreading. Thats how you go from almost nothing to over a thousand like Korea.

That thinking folks, combined with its just a flu, is dangerous.

dark crystal wrote: »

Daily Mail spreading fear...that's a new one.

Anyway, far too few deaths for me to start building my underground bunker yet. I'll wait until the death toll hits double figures before I begin construction.

This thinking is why the Examiner is talking about media blackouts. Not so different to CCP 'control the narrative' stuff. Very totalitarian.

Ireland is generally highly educated. People arent stupid and can make their own decisions on whether something is 'spreading fear' or spreading fact.

The 'it`ll be grand' attitude may strike us down yet

Charles Babbage · 26-02-2020 02:21AM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

People of the lowest IQ are the ones saying it will be all grand.

Not always. Some of them are just young and reckon it will kill other people.

Rather a callous attitude, but they may be correct.

What are the real numbers?
Time with tell.

Leaving China aside, there is other useful data from places like Singapore.

gozunda · 26-02-2020 02:31AM

Beasty wrote: »

Source?

:pac:

Tsk! What is it with people not being up to speed with modern medicinal knowledge and theory - seriously!

According to Meade, the twice daily occurrence of a closer moon causes regular swelling of the blood vessels. Additionally, conditions like plague frequently erupted during the new and full moons (when the lunar gravitational pull causes the highest barometric pressure) and grow worse during the tides. Meade’s work sought to order the seemingly random outbreaks of epidemics based on atmospheric variables. ...

https://artsci.case.edu/dittrick/2015/07/20/by-the-light-of-the-fever-gout-and-plague-inducing-moon-lunar-medicine/

ODriscoll · 26-02-2020 02:32AM

joe_99 wrote: »

Masks are useless as a protection against getting it.

Heard this on sky tv a week from one of their supposed informed journalists one of and typical sort who blamed the EU on all ill without any actual evidence. just picked up a ditty and made up a nonsense tune.

Heres some basic logic for you to think on!

if you and the like here are correct, that masks are useless!

then do explain why it seems all the actual professionals in China, like the actual Doctors and Nurses on the scene wear them and it was their body that effectively instructed the Government to insist people wear them.

Do you think they wear them, uncomfortable as they are, just for a laugh?

Kermit.de.frog · 26-02-2020 02:36AM

South Korean president was exposed to coronavirus in a meeting with an infected official BBC says

scotchy · 26-02-2020 02:46AM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1232481190331895808

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CBear1993 · 26-02-2020 02:48AM

scotchy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1232481190331895808

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This news is probably a week old within Hubei province and to China itself. They were deciding when to realise it. Probably surpassed those numbers well by now

26-02-2020 02:51AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Put it this way. It's more important for frontline staff to stay virus free than a random member of the public if we want to deal with this crisis. Also, the masks we would be using are FFP3 which are a ****ing nightmare to actually wear.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/one-million-masks-released-as-australia-reviews-coronavirus-response-20200129-p53vqx.html

January 29, 2020
Australia:
1 million masks will be released from the national medical stockpile, as the government reviews its response to the coronavirus outbreak after reports it could be transmitted without symptoms.

Kermit.de.frog · 26-02-2020 02:52AM

More lies from China, it will be 0 by next week

scotchy · 26-02-2020 02:52AM

CBear1993 wrote: »

This news is probably a week old within Hubei province and to China itself. They were deciding when to realise it. Probably surpassed those numbers well by now

They're the latest numbers released by the Chinese government about 3 minutes before I posted it

The_knack · 26-02-2020 02:55AM

The way i see it is you have two choices.
A- You believe the Government/WHO, there is nothing to worry about its under control.
B- The Government/WHO are not telling the truth.

So if you believe A, the best that can happen is they are correct, no need to worry.
The Worst is they are wrong and you are unprepared for when the SHTF.

So if you believe B, the Best that can happen is that you get supplies in so you can bunker down if the SHTF.
The worst is you where wrong, no need to panic, you look a bit silly prepping.

Well myself i have no problem with the worst outcome being me looking a little bit silly, so i will be getting in a months worth of food/supplies first thing tomorrow morning, i wish you all the best and hope i am wrong choosing B.

scotchy · 26-02-2020 02:56AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

More lies from China, it will be 0 by next week

To be taken with a pinch of salt.

JanaMay · 26-02-2020 02:57AM

SusieBlue wrote: »

My neighbours son is among 55 Irish Erasmus students in University of Milan. They were all flown home yesterday because the university has closed, and they were all allowed to walk off the planes with no testing or health checks.
They are all from various different parts of Ireland, and are now home in their various cities, towns and villages across the country under the instruction to just self quarantine if they start to feel sick.
There will be many other Erasmus students in different colleges/universities in the affected areas returning in the coming days in similar circumstances.
This is how it will spread, its so worrying that these kids weren't even checked upon arrival into Ireland.
Its downright negligence on the part of the Irish government.

Who was it that provided for the 55 Erasmus students at the University of Milan to be flown home?

The_knack · 26-02-2020 03:03AM

Was told you will not find a single face mask for sale in any pharmacy in the state, the Government has requisitioned every one for the HSE.

26-02-2020 03:10AM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/484602-san-francisco-declares-state-of-emergency-over-coronavirus

They don’t even have any cases yet. Complete overreaction.

Just maybe they dont want any cases

CBear1993 · 26-02-2020 03:12AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Just maybe they dont want any cases

Is that story about the 55 Erasmus students back in Ireland from university of Milan true?

If so that’s f*c*ing appalling. Googled it and can’t find any articles or anything on twitter

bodhrandude · 26-02-2020 03:17AM

CBear1993 wrote: »

Is that story about the 55 Erasmus students back in Ireland from university of Milan true?

If so that’s f*c*ing appalling. Googled it and can’t find any articles or anything on twitter

I think this is the only link I could find about school kids coming back from their holidays in Italy. https://www.facebook.com/corksredfm/posts/10157259776217060

theguzman · 26-02-2020 03:28AM

The outbreak in Brazil is particularly devastating and this will absolutely balloon and Skyrocket in the coming days as they are in the middle of Carneval at the moment. There is enormous links between Italy and Brazil (Think Ireland and Irish-Americans), it is almost a rite of passage for young Italians with a bit of money to fly to Rio de Janeiro or Sao Paolo for Carneval in what is probably the planets biggest party of debauchery of kissing and casual sex. Italians are prolific global travellers, I have been to nearly 25 countries myself and you find Italians everywhere, they love to travel and live the good life. Brazil will be the new South Korea within days, they have a far superior healthcare system to Ireland so will probably fare better than us.

I don't think anyone here has any idea of how corrupt and inept our HSE is, the prevailing attitude is that this is just a flu or sure it will be grand. Once it gets into Ireland spreads then Ireland will be in for a severely rude awakening.

Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

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