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Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

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  • #1022
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    fritzelly wrote: »
    So just won a free trip on Stena Line - will have to consider this carefully


    Stena have some lovely ships, I recommend the Stena Diamond Princess.


  • #1023
    Gringo180
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    50000 people die from pnuemonia in the US every year. How many deaths from Corona virus so far?


  • #1024
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    Couple bottles of Smirnoff to weather the storm. I will see if this virus can survive in hostile environment.

    Swap the Smirnoff for champagne and we have ourselves a plan.

    I heard the bubbles stop the spread of deadly diseases and if I go down, I'm going down in style!


  • #1025
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    50000 people die from pnuemonia in the US every year. How many deaths from Corona virus so far?

    Oh not this rubbish again. For Christ sake.


  • #1026
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    So heres a scenario:

    Couple with lets say 3 school gping kids, two primary one secondary, both adults work

    Secondary school closes as suspected case of coronavirus. All pupils should quarantine

    So i assume both adults shouldnt go to work but will they be certified as ill if they arent actually ill. Not all employers would pay while out sick either

    This is where it would be nice to have some info on what plans the State has

    All should quarantine.


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  • #1027
    Dave0301
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    50000 people die from pnuemonia in the US every year. How many deaths from Corona virus so far?

    Good point...that will be very reassuring for the families of the near 3000 people that have died directly as a result of this virus, whereas they would most likely be alive otherwise :rolleyes:


  • #1028
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,942 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    This is where it would be nice to have some info on what plans the State has

    Ill give you a hint, they dont have any.


  • #1029
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    phantom_lord wrote: »

    My main concern is possible disruption.

    The show must go on eh

    Where do you draw the line on concern for people? Is anyone over 50 of no concern? 40? I'm guessing you are the young side (so am I, but my reading is rather different to yours)


  • #1030
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    50000 people die from pnuemonia in the US every year. How many deaths from Corona virus so far?

    Anywhere from 200 to 1000 deaths per year in Ireland.

    Not one case of Corona Virus in Ireland, yet people are acting like it's armageddon.


  • #1031
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Oh not this rubbish again. For Christ sake.


    :D:D:D


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  • #1032
    SeaBreezes
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    fritzelly wrote: »
    4 Americans from the cruise ship test positive after leaving
    Not much longer now and it will be a 100% positive rate for everyone that was on the ship

    More bad news, when questioned on how they know mild cases that have not been missed (that the current 80/20 stats are incorrect) ..

    You can always count on @HelenBranswell to ask the most important question: What’s the evidence for there not being many more mild cases that have been missed? Aylward says in multiple provinces thousands or tens of thousands of people were screened and few #COVID19 cases found.

    https://twitter.com/kakape/status/1232340442215276551


  • #1033
    froog
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    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    WHO cares about all these people dying, they're doing what they can, but in all fairness what can they do. They have zero control.

    yeah i don't get all the hate thrown their way. they're a bunch of academics with no power to make governments do anything. what exactly are people expecting from them? Who branded medical-SWAT teams to shut down the entire world and tell everyone to start panicking?


  • #1034
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    dark crystal wrote: »
    Not one case of Corona Virus in Ireland, yet people are acting like it's armageddon.


    how many got tested since the current European outbreak?


  • #1035
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    how many got tested since the current European outbreak?

    Very few I'd imagine. How many have had symptoms?


  • #1036
    givyjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Exactly, same as Examiner talking about 'senior sources', if i was told to stay silent id be shouting from the rooftops about it

    You mean like talking to newspapers?


  • #1037
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,011 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Ill give you a hint, they dont have any.

    Nonsense. They will deal with this just as they do everything else; with a new tax/levy/surcharge.


  • #1038
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Two new cases in France
    Another death in Italy (total 11) - running at nearly 3% CFR, bit scary if the deaths keep increasing as they are more like Wuhan in figures


  • #1039
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    would it kill the WHO to use a fecking projector for their presentation? jesus


  • #1040
    Dotsie~tmp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Dotsie~tmp


    froog wrote: »
    yeah i don't get all the hate thrown their way. they're a bunch of academics with no power to make governments do anything. what exactly are people expecting from them? Who branded medical-SWAT teams to shut down the entire world and tell everyone to start panicking?

    This could potentially be the first viral pandemic in the history of humanity that wasn't just a cross your fingers job.

    The leap in understanding and medical, communication and pornographic technology since the last is staggering. We wont beat the next one. Or maybe a few after that but the inexorable progress of medical and pornographic technology means its the future is bright for vaccinated sexbots.


  • #1041
    [Deleted User]
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    Ficheall wrote: »
    If a large part of the problem is the immune system going overboard and catching the "good stuff" in the crossfire while attacking the virus, is suppressing immune system reactions such as, say, a fever, with paracetamol a good or a bad thing?

    With that very thing in mind they have tried corticosteroids one treating this and SARS-1, but it actually makes things work. Paracetamol would provide some symptomatic relief and we should all have it in stock, but being very careful about paying heed to dosage.


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  • #1042
    givyjoe
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    JaCrispy wrote: »
    You're missing the point. The people who don't present at GPs or hospitals are not on the official "infected" lists. Regardless of the symptoms the number of infected people is most likely significantly higher than the official figures.

    You're missing the point. It's not at all widely accepted there are massive numbers not in hospital, it may be thought/hoped to the case and I'm sure that was part of their mission, to confirm this. Theyre stating that they found this NOT to be the case. But I suppose you know better right?


  • #1043
    froog
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    Dotsie~tmp wrote: »
    This could potentially be the first viral pandemic in the history of humanity that wasn't just a cross your fingers job.

    The leap in understanding and medical, communication and pornographic technology since the last is staggering. We wont beat the next one. Or maybe a few after that but the inexorable progress of medical and pornographic technology means its the future is bright for vaccinated sexbots.

    wtf?


  • #1044
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,942 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    givyjoe wrote: »
    You're missing the point. It's not at all widely accepted there are massive numbers not in hospital, it may be thought/hoped to the case and I'm sure that was part of their mission, to confirm this. Theyre stating that they found this NOT to be the case. But I suppose you know better right?

    I dont trust china to not have carefully choreographed his entire visit. Sure initially they werent going to allow him enter Hubei at all.


  • #1045
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    I know. It works if it is one village but take ten or fifty or some city like Milano or Rome and then it gets interesting. I mean due to chinese regime we have no chance to find out how people cope in big regions when they are quarantined.
    I still remember what 3 days of snow did to us not so long ago. Shops were literally cleaned out of bread within few hours.

    To be fair it’s not like there was famine. We stayed in drank cans and ate our weight in pizza.


  • #1046
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    Dotsie~tmp wrote: »
    This could potentially be the first viral pandemic in the history of humanity that wasn't just a cross your fingers job.

    The leap in understanding and medical, communication and pornographic technology since the last is staggering. We wont beat the next one. Or maybe a few after that but the inexorable progress of medical and pornographic technology means its the future is bright for vaccinated sexbots.

    this is nonsense


  • #1047
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2020/0225/1117488-spain-coronavirus/


    He read out a notice that he received under his door this morning which said: "We regret to inform you that for health reasons the hotel has been closed down. Until then the sanitary authorities warn that you must remain in your rooms." He said he could see other people at the pool area so he and his travel partner joined them.

    Can we just shoot these two mongos on general prinicple whenever they arrive back in this country?


  • #1048
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    The 11th Italian victim is a 76 year old woman who was taken to hospital today after she developed sudden respiratory issues. Scary how quickly conditions can deteriorate, she was an undetected case and wasn't even in hospital
    Lower below in the article they mentioned that 95% of people survive, not sure where they get that figure but it's closer to reality than the previous ones


  • #1049
    blanch152
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    50000 people die from pnuemonia in the US every year. How many deaths from Corona virus so far?

    Pnuemonia is a complication of viruses such as the Corona virus as well as other viral and bacterial infections.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumonia

    "Pneumonia is usually caused by infection with viruses or bacteria and less commonly by other microorganisms, certain medications and conditions such as autoimmune diseases."

    "Pneumonia affects approximately 450 million people globally (7% of the population) and results in about four million deaths per year"

    So a fatality rate of less than 1%.

    The problem with the Corona virus is that so far the fatality rate is seen to be greater, and possibly significantly greater than 1%. Estimates range, as we have seen on this thread, from 2% to 9%.

    One thing that you can be sure of is that the Corona virus will lead to an increase in the number of deaths from pnuemonia.


  • #1050
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Has the sky fallen yet?


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  • #1051
    Dotsie~tmp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Dotsie~tmp


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    this is nonsense

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