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Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

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    #1262
    Dotsie~tmp
    Registered Users Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭Dotsie~tmp


    MadYaker wrote: »
    I never said it was nothing. You didn't really answer my question

    Are millions dead in China? Probably not. We dont need thats for major consequences. Also pandemics come in WAVES. Last a year. They mutate, get worse. Ive got family and money at stake. Do what you want but Ive already made steps to protect whats mine.

    Its pointless talking about China now. We dont need that info. Its in Europe now we will soon have first hand data of its lethality, contagiousness etc.

    As for what the Chinese have actually done? Well find out later. They dont have great form.


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    #1263
    SeaBreezes
    Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Its probably 2-3 times more infections than are being reported. The mortality rate on the boat is 0.5% where all infections are accurately reported, and internationally its 1.3%

    The mortality on the boat is only starting now,
    First cases were detected Feb 2nd it take 3-6 weeks to case closure.

    Did you not hear the WHO spokesman saying current estimates were spot on?
    Tens of thousand tested in provinces who didn't have it?
    There aren't many asymptomatic cases.... the current 80/20 mild/severe is spot on.


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    #1264
    wylo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭wylo


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    But this is ‘false reporting and fake news’ according to many.

    For the vast majority of people this presents as a bad flu that quarantine can deal with.

    Yes some people will be get sick, badly. But for the vast majority we’ve seen that this passes fine.

    The summer will deal with it also, and then we’re gonna be back to masks and over reaction next winter


    Honestly I think what will happen is as infections develop to people close to us and we see that they are fine overall (except for the few unlucky people) we will start to get bored of the news story.


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    #1265
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    I love how people post nonsense like “someone” in the HSE told me this and that. Complete irresponsible lies and surprising that it’s allowed go on here.


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    #1266
    odyssey06
    Registered Users Posts: 28,570 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    But this is ‘false reporting and fake news’ according to many.
    For the vast majority of people this presents as a bad flu that quarantine can deal with.
    Yes some people will be get sick, badly. But for the vast majority we’ve seen that this passes fine.
    The summer will deal with it also, and then we’re gonna be back to masks and over reaction next winter

    Over reaction?
    I cannot take this post seriously. Actually that post is contemptible. You can't even bring yourself to mention that some of that potentially large number of sick people will die?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #1267
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Rather worrying tweets from Philip Boucher-Hayes:

    https://twitter.com/boucherhayes/status/1232373408471666690?s=21

    School children returned home to Bray from Italy with flu-like illness and HSE is not in position to test them.

    The approach to these returning schools is nuts. Either they’re very carefully trying not to stoke panic by keeping us in the dark - kinda like how the Chinese started out - or they’re genuinely incompetent - kinda like how the Iranian started


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    #1268
    [Deleted User]
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    wylo wrote: »
    Honestly I think what will happen is as infections develop to people close to us and we see that they are fine overall (except for the few unlucky people) we will start to get bored of the news story.

    I’d find attending a funeral of my loved one sad rather than boring :(


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    #1269
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Over reaction?
    I cannot take this post seriously. Actually that post is contemptible. You can't even bring yourself to mention that some of that potentially large number of sick people will die?

    400,000 people die from flu each year. Source WHO


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    #1270
    wakka12
    Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Martina1991 wrote: »
    Where did you get this? Or did Harris say it? I didnt see the news.

    Harris just said it tonight yes.


    Another Italy related case, I think almost every new case in europe today and the one in Algeria were all Italian travellers or recently to Italy. Place must be saturated with coronavirus
    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1232398951325802497


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    #1271
    RandomName2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Nonoperational wrote: »
    I love how people post nonsense like “someone” in the HSE told me this and that. Complete irresponsible lies and surprising that it’s allowed go on here.

    Doesn't matter! When the HSE has anything to say they say absolute nonsense!

    The Waterford students returning from northern Italy are told that they don't have to do anything unless they show symptoms.

    UNLESS THEY SHOW SYMPTOMS!?!?

    WHAT!?

    Everyone, and I mean everyone knows that the disease is infectious for up to two weeks before there are any symptoms.

    What the ****. Who the hell is running the HSE?


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    #1272
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Over reaction?
    I cannot take this post seriously. Actually that post is contemptible. You can't even bring yourself to mention that some of that potentially large number of sick people will die?


    yep, and those dying will be somebody's parents and close relatives


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    #1273
    wakka12
    Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Nonoperational wrote: »
    I love how people post nonsense like “someone” in the HSE told me this and that. Complete irresponsible lies and surprising that it’s allowed go on here.

    Yeh its odd , like that someone could be a secretary or a janitor for all we know going off hearsay


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    #1274
    RandomName2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    joe_99 wrote: »
    400,000 people die from flu each year. Source WHO



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    #1275
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    joe_99 wrote: »
    400,000 people die from flu each year. Source WHO


    oh god again


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    #1276
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    yep, and those dying will be somebody's parents and close relatives

    Up to 1000 Irish people die each year from flu. Source HSE


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    #1277
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    A comment that was made in HK was that when trust in the authorities is low, it can hamper attempts to contain and control a virus like this. Same could be said of the general perception of the competence of the HSE here. Maybe the stories we’re getting in this thread are baloney, but they sound plausible!


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    #1278
    brick tamland
    Registered Users Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    Nonoperational wrote: »
    I love how people post nonsense like “someone” in the HSE told me this and that. Complete irresponsible lies and surprising that it’s allowed go on here.

    This exactly. Some level of nonsense going on here.


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    #1279
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    joe_99 wrote: »
    Up to 1000 Irish people die each year from flu. Source HSE


    Now add the ones who will die for covid to that total


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    #1280
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    joe_99 wrote: »
    400,000 people die from flu each year. Source WHO

    Can we please stop this. Its of absolutely no relevance whatsoever.


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    #1281
    bennyl10
    Registered Users Posts: 5,527 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Over reaction?
    I cannot take this post seriously. Actually that post is contemptible. You can't even bring yourself to mention that some of that potentially large number of sick people will die?

    People die from a cold.
    People die from the flu,
    People die. That’s an unfortunate fact of humanity.

    But the fact with this disease is that the vast, vast majority will be fine. They’ll have a bad fever, will need watching, but will be fine.

    This isn’t the plague or the Spanish flu and treating it as if it is is,yes, the definition of an over reaction.


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    #1282
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Now add the ones who will die for covid to that total

    Death rate is equivalent to the flu so another 1000 max.


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    #1283
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Regarding INFLUENZA, vaccination is available to prevent its worst effects. We await a VACCINE for Covid-19


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    #1284
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    Dow Jones drops 900 points today, yesterday 1000, Armageddon


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    #1285
    wakka12
    Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    joe_99 wrote: »
    Up to 1000 Irish people die each year from flu. Source HSE

    And if coronavirus begins to get a foothold and becomes as common as flu then it will be 10-000-20,000 irish people dying from coronavirus, so that is why there is concern


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    #1286
    Unearthly
    Registered Users Posts: 7,984 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    RandomName2 wrote: »

    Lmao that was a brilliant scene :D


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    #1287
    wakka12
    Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    joe_99 wrote: »
    Death rate is equivalent to the flu so another 1000 max.

    Based on what? The most accurate data we have is the outcome of the patients on the cruise liner. So far, 0.5% of those affected have died. Which already puts it at 4-5x times more dangerous than flu, and that is before you take into account that there still dozens of others in a serious condition on the boat


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    #1288
    bennyl10
    Registered Users Posts: 5,527 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    wakka12 wrote: »
    And if coronavirus begins to get a foothold and becomes as common as flu then it will be 10-000-20,000 irish people dying from coronavirus, so that is why there is concern

    Only no. No it won’t.
    Virus’ mutate over time and usually become less deadly. Because they want to survive as much as we do.

    Vaccines also develop over time.

    If it comes here, yes some people in the at risk groups may die. The same as they may die from any disease.

    Thsi is a worrying disease. Sure. But it isn’t end times stuff by any stretch


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    #1289
    2xj3hplqgsbkym
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭2xj3hplqgsbkym


    Hi guys ,
    Some of you are obviously very well read on this topic. I’m not worried about myself getting it , I am fit and healthy, but one of my children has a condition that can affect his lungs and he is prone to pneumonia ( he has had flu and pneumonia vaccine of course) . We are all careful at hand washing in the family. I was just wondering what is so special about the masks everyone is queuing for? Can I just make my own from fabric to- cover nose and mouth?


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    #1290
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    wakka12 wrote: »
    And if coronavirus begins to get a foothold and becomes as common as flu then it will be 10-000-20,000 irish people dying from coronavirus, so that is why there is concern

    How so? Survival rates are over 99.6% for anyone under 50.


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    #1291
    Phil.x
    Registered Users Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    Chadwicks have sold out of dust masks!


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