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23-02-2020 11:00PM

all about the mane wrote: »

And a nuclear bunker. Need to have one of those...

Don’t be silly. Bats live in caves which are kinda like bunkers.

sdanseo · 23-02-2020 11:01PM

tuxy wrote: »

The google translate says 70 health establishments not hospitals.

Can someone who can speak French confirm it's 70 hospitals?

The article says 38 health establishments are capable of handling epidemic (presumably COVID-19) patients. France will enable 70 more to do the same. Not build 70 more.

More sensationalism.

pc7 · 23-02-2020 11:01PM

all about the mane wrote: »

And a nuclear bunker. Need to have one of those...

Del Boy is selling one

BanditLuke · 23-02-2020 11:01PM

Panic buying in Milan

https://twitter.com/Royal_Creme/status/1231640096094531587/photo/3

Jim_Hodge · 23-02-2020 11:02PM

tuxy wrote: »

The google translate says 70 health establishments not hospitals.

Can someone who can speak French confirm it's 70 hospitals?

Nowhere does it say hospitals, only health establishments and health facilities. L'Hôpital or un Hôpital don't get mentioned.

givyjoe · 23-02-2020 11:03PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

The flu, worldwide, kills about 500K each year.
Corona isn’t anywhere near this.

It has a much higher survival rate among infected also

Yes it’s a worrying disease. But it isn’t ‘catastrophic’

I can't help replying this nonsense every time I see it. This is a brand new virus literally only about 12 to 16 weeks in humans. Flu has been around for hundreds of years and is many multiples less deadly. Isn't catastrophic, yet. Time is the key here, the virus is only getting started.

TomSweeney · 23-02-2020 11:03PM

givyjoe wrote: »

Called 'Normalcy Bias' apparently. A fair dose of it around on this thread up until today.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalcy_bias

Normalcy bias has also been called analysis paralysis, the ostrich effect,[2] and by first responders, the negative panic.[3] The opposite of normalcy bias is overreaction, or worst-case scenario bias,[4][5] in which small deviations from normality are dealt with as signals of an impending catastrophe.

in fairness I think I've been getting some of the "worst case scenario bias" ...

BanditLuke · 23-02-2020 11:03PM

macwal wrote: »

Would be great if we got a super-spreader here that was handing out social welfare checks.

I'd rather see them handed out to bankers and in Leinster House

tuxy · 23-02-2020 11:03PM

macwal wrote: »

Would be great if we got a super-spreader here that was handing out social welfare checks.

What kind of social welfare checks? What would they be checking for?

wadacrack · 23-02-2020 11:04PM

fr336 wrote: »

The good thing about France is whether they like it or not other governments will have to follow. I say good on France and Austria for taking this seriously now rather than later. Well I mean we're already pretty late, but still.

Europe will be fighting it, all countries will have to follow similar protocol hopefully. The silence is deafening in Ireland/HSE. Still more concerned with the weather and flights being cancelled to the Canary's

dominatinMC · 23-02-2020 11:05PM

sdanseo wrote: »

The article says 38 health establishments are capable of handling epidemic (presumably COVID-19) patients. France will enable 70 more to do the same. Not build 70 more.

More sensationalism.

Cheers for clearing that up. I think, given that people are anxious and worried about the issue, posters need to be more vigilant when submitting articles on here. Similarly, earlier someone posted a link stating the UK couple on board the ship had died - which turned out to be complete false. Maybe take some time to review what you are posting before you do so :pac:

BanditLuke · 23-02-2020 11:06PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Europe will be fighting it, all countries will have to follow similar protocol hopefully. The silence is deafening in Ireland/HSE. Still more concerned with the weather and flights being cancelled to the Canary's

We are always reactive instead of proactive.

Tipperary animal lover · 23-02-2020 11:07PM

macwal wrote: »

Would be great if we got a super-spreader here that was handing out social welfare checks.

We'll holy s*it the dole bashing had to wrangle it's way into the thread at some stage, your happy to have the less fortunate the elderly the carers the people with disabilities killed off so ya can live in your little perfect world. Gothya

fr336 · 23-02-2020 11:09PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Europe will be fighting it, all countries will have to follow similar protocol hopefully. The silence is deafening in Ireland/HSE. Still more concerned with the weather and flights being cancelled to the Canary's

UK doesn't seem any different to Ireland at the moment. Maybe the EU will mount a joint response and the UK will be left hanging? Not great for me!

Kermit.de.frog · 23-02-2020 11:10PM

Trains halted on some lines between Austria and Italy until further notice

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-austria-stops-trains-with-italy-over-covid-19-concerns/a-52493063

Damien360 · 23-02-2020 11:11PM

tuxy wrote: »

The google translate says 70 health establishments not hospitals.

Can someone who can speak French confirm it's 70 hospitals?

It says they have 38 currently dedicated health establishments to handle these patients and can expand to 70 which would be enough to cover anything else. Masks are for health professionals, not general public.

wadacrack · 23-02-2020 11:11PM

I'm seeing nothing on social media either, we talk on media alot of mental health etc. But I guarantee if someone shared something on this they would probably be ridiculed for being a worrier or negative . I have worried about this since I found out about the virus at the end on January. It has definitely affected me mentally the past few weeks

fr336 · 23-02-2020 11:12PM

The only ray of positivity I can see is what people were discussing earlier about a particularly bad dose going around a while back - if that is the case, and it was Corona, then maybe the surge in cases is purely down to people being tested and deaths being treated as not more general causes? A long shot I know, but mildly plausible. And nowhere is still anywhere near as bad as China (whose official figures, which almost certainly aren't true, are bad enough).

Itssoeasy · 23-02-2020 11:12PM

sdanseo wrote: »

The article says 38 health establishments are capable of handling epidemic (presumably COVID-19) patients. France will enable 70 more to do the same. Not build 70 more.

More sensationalism.

Maybe not sensationalism but a cautionary tale to not use google translate as gospel.

Kermit.de.frog · 23-02-2020 11:12PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Panic buying in Milan

https://twitter.com/Royal_Creme/status/1231640096094531587/photo/3

https://twitter.com/mickytorro/status/1231648822540980224

tuxy · 23-02-2020 11:12PM

Damien360 wrote: »

It says they have 38 currently dedicated health establishments to handle these patients and can expand to 70 which would be enough to cover anything else. Masks are for health professionals, not general public.

Thanks, I was wondering what spaceage technolegy the French had developed to build 70 hospitials overnight!
Yes that did not stop people posting it as fact!

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Maybe not sensationalism but a cautionary tale to not use google translate as gospel.

Google translate got it right for the post part, it was the people posting the article that got it wrong.

fr336 · 23-02-2020 11:13PM

wadacrack wrote: »

I'm seeing nothing on social media either, we talk on media alot of mental health etc. But I guarantee if someone shared something on this they would probably be ridiculed for being a worrier or negative . I have worried about this since I found out about the virus at the end on January. It has definitely affected me mentally the past few weeks

You're not alone. This thread has been a godsend

Musefan · 23-02-2020 11:14PM

Husband also laughed at me when I suggested doing some stocking up. When I chatted to him about it, he said he actually is laughing really because it seems so surreal. I don't see a huge risk to myself, as I've no pre-existing conditions, and neither does he, but we have parents who do. I also work with kids who cough and splutter over me every day.

Anyway, he finally got a bit more serious and he agreed to doing a non-perishable shop with me tomorrow, of stuff that we will use anyway so there is no wastage. Some of the things I was thinking of were rye bread (very long shelf life), oat/almond milk, those english muffin things from aldi, nuts, cheese, pasta, jarred pasta sauces, beans, frozen and tinned veg and fruit, porridge, paracetamol etc. All the same stuff I buy when we expect to be snowed in. We already have gloves and masks from DIY projects.

Nijmegen · 23-02-2020 11:14PM

Wonder what the next step is for Austria. Closing your border to trains - plural - means you have a general suspicion of transmission rather than thinking one particular punter on one particular train is a hazard. Next surely is road and air travel. Unless it’s very specific intelligence they’re acting on, but I dunno, feels like more bans will follow.

Itssoeasy · 23-02-2020 11:15PM

tuxy wrote: »

Thanks, I was wondering what spaceage technolegy the French had developed to build 70 hospitials overnight!
Yes that did not stop people posting it as fact!

Google translate got it right for the post part, it was the people posting the article that got it wrong.

Ah I see.

hmmm · 23-02-2020 11:17PM

It's time the HSE and the government got a bit more pro-active with communication. What are they going to do if this spreads here which seems increasingly likely. What actions are going to be taken. If we see wide-spread community spread, are they going to ask people to self-isolate and who do they ring if they think they might need medical help, are they going to set up quarantine hospitals, are there plans to try and help elderly or immuno-compromised people.

None of this is scare-mongering, it's just sensible messaging to suggest they are planning ahead.

ZX7R · 23-02-2020 11:18PM

fr336 wrote: »

The only ray of positivity I can see is what people were discussing earlier about a particularly bad dose going around a while back - if that is the case, and it was Corona, then maybe the surge in cases is purely down to people being tested and deaths being treated as not more general causes? A long shot I know, but mildly plausible. And nowhere is still anywhere near as bad as China (whose official figures, which almost certainly aren't true, are bad enough).

65 people have been tested in Ireland since January according to the hse,
it was on the news during the week,all negative but still shows it was a worry for them .

odyssey06 · 23-02-2020 11:19PM

Situation so serious President of France announcing contingency measures.
One EU state Austria virtually closing borders to another Italy which has shutdown public events in one of its regions.

Meanwhile in Ireland it is Sunday.

babybuilder · 23-02-2020 11:19PM

They'd care more if you were an Aberdeen Angus or Friesian cow in danger of Foot and Mouth.

Kermit.de.frog · 23-02-2020 11:20PM

A bit confusing. Here is says all train traffic halted

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1231688863191617536

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