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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

LaFuton

this is one to watch methinks, its in the americas now and can be transmitted person to person.
is this the big plague or even a precursor to it.
any budding virologist here got some links or info for us?

Mod warning 19/02/20

Beasty wrote: »

OK, time to step in with some mod instructions:

1. Please interact in a civil manner
2. Do not tell others what to do, or what to post
3. If you have a problem with a post report it and leave the modding to the mods

In terms of thread content:

4. Treat everything you read here with caution. Anything posted is from an anonymous internet poster. You cannot assume anyone has any "specialist" knowledge whatever they claim
5. Statistics are important to some (and I personally pay a lot of attention to them), but they are of very little use to anyone who is already caught up in this, or indeed knows of people who are caught up
6. Terms such as "sinus", "airborne", "aerosol" have little relevance at this time in this jurisdiction. Ultimately though if cases are discovered in Ireland please pay attention to the relevant authorities and what they advise/recommend, and not some randomer(s) on the internet

All the above is me talking as a complete layman on the subject. Like everything in this thread do not treat it as chapter and verse, beyond paying attention to items 1-3 above

Any questions please PM me - do not try and dissect this post in-thread

Warning added 24/02/20
Last time it was a "suggestion"/request

Now it's an instruction

Stop all the tit for tat stuff on the stats. None of us are in full possession of the facts and none of us can draw any "definitive" conclusions. Bottom line. It's serious. Not serious in Ireland at this stage, but may become so. Anyone caught up in this is not going to take much solace from any stats however they are complied

Any questions PM me - do not respond to this warning in-thread

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odyssey06

wakka12 wrote: »

This is just mad lads

France buys tens of millions of facial masks, plans to open 70 extra hospitals
http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/coronavirus-la-france-achete-des-dizaines-de-millions-de-masques-23-02-2020-8265609.php

They must be hysterical!

Oh no wait this is what a capable country does to protect itself.

Call Me Jimmy

Lyanna Salty Toadstool wrote: »

Nobody knows, that's the scary thing.

Millions in Wuhan have been in lock down for a month now.

Its terrifying, how are they managing there for essentials and why aren't we hearing much from the region?

Because it's basically a disaster zone and the type of measures the chinese have to use there are not for public consumption.

[Deleted User]

Just over 800 posts to go and we will have a new thread.

Points to be discussed for the opening post?

1. The thread title should be capitalised.

2. Whoever of us gets the virus first has to pledge to keep posting or they forfeit their spam and beans they’ve stockpiled.

3. Some quick and easy recipes (including how to make bread) should be included.

Anything else?

joseywhales

Hanging out in Dubai airport for seven hours, I'd say 1% of people have masks. I saw one guy with an n95 mask, he must be gasping for breath wearing that all day.

Suddenly I'm very concious of how many people cough and sputter regularly, we need to ban cigarettes.

wakka12

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Just over 800 posts to go and we will have a new thread.

Points to be discussed for the opening post?

1. The thread title should be capitalised.

2. Whoever of us gets the virus first has to pledge to keep posting or they forfeit their spam and beans they’ve stockpiled.

3. Some quick and easy recipes (including how to make bread) should be included.

Anything else?

But mostly especially this :mad:

Jim_Hodge

fr336 wrote: »

I was always dead against contactless, thought it was less secure or something. Since this started I'm using contactless all the time - no PIN entries where other people have been. And cash only for taxi drivers - they can keep the change!

How do you manage door handles, bannister rails, escalator belts, café table tops, bus seats, shopping trollies, paper copies of reports/forms, door keypads, etc.?

dominatinMC

wakka12 wrote: »

This is just mad lads

France buys tens of millions of facial masks, plans to open 70 extra hospitals
http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/coronavirus-la-france-achete-des-dizaines-de-millions-de-masques-23-02-2020-8265609.php

Jesus, 70 hospitals?! We can't even open one! (childrens hospital)

CinemaGuy45

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Just over 800 posts to go and we will have a new thread.

Points to be discussed for the opening post?

1. The thread title should be capitalised.

2. Whoever of us gets the virus first has to pledge to keep posting or they forfeit their spam and beans they’ve stockpiled.

3. Some quick and easy recipes (including how to make bread) should be included.

Anything else?

Plenty of spam on this thread already and we don't need anything that causes more farting either.

Fr_Dougal

wakka12 wrote: »

This is just mad lads

France buys tens of millions of facial masks, plans to open 70 extra hospitals
http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/coronavirus-la-france-achete-des-dizaines-de-millions-de-masques-23-02-2020-8265609.php

That’s not quite what it said. An additional 70 hospitals will be able to look after patients.

If so far, 38 health facilities were able to accommodate possible patients, as of Monday, will add 70 facilities.

tuxy

dominatinMC wrote: »

Jesus, 70 hospitals?! We can't even open one! (childrens hospital)

The google translate says 70 health establishments not hospitals.

Can someone who can speak French confirm it's 70 hospitals?

[Deleted User]

wakka12 wrote: »

But mostly especially this :mad:

I knew someone was driven nuts over it

wakka12

dominatinMC wrote: »

Jesus, 70 hospitals?! We can't even open one! (childrens hospital)

I assume they are some kind 'reserve' hospitals though rather than new builds as they are opening them tomorrow

pc7

How could they staff so many new sites?

Spanish Eyes

Go to your virus free leaba,

For now anyway. It's getting hilarious, hysterical, and so on here now.

But watch how many flights are cancelled. That is my signpost.

fr336

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

1. The thread title should be capitalised.

Or just make a new one - "THE END OF THE WORLD IS HERE (Updates and comments thread)"

pc7

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Just over 800 posts to go and we will have a new thread.

Points to be discussed for the opening post?

1. The thread title should be capitalised.

2. Whoever of us gets the virus first has to pledge to keep posting or they forfeit their spam and beans they’ve stockpiled.

3. Some quick and easy recipes (including how to make bread) should be included.

Anything else?

Small list of items to have ‘just in case’?

[Deleted User]

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Has there been any research into the effect of hot whiskeys on the virus?

They are ok if you have a flat 7up chaser with it.

[Deleted User]

fr336 wrote: »

Or just make a new one - "THE END OF THE WORLD IS HERE (Updates and comments thread)"

I second this motion. All in agreement say “aye”

fr336

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

How do you manage door handles, bannister rails, escalator belts, cafable tops, bus seats, shopping trollies, paper copies of reports/forms, door keypads, etc.?

Oh of course. But it makes me feel better as knowing my luck I'd catch it from some really silly thing

(Yes I know trying to prevent catching it (with or without symptoms) is now pretty much a hiding to nothing, but never give up I say!)

givyjoe

TomSweeney wrote: »

Just to give an insight into how a lot of people are treating this.
My wife laughed at me today when I suggested we stock up on pasta, rice, lentils water etc....
She suggested I see a psychologist when I told her the extent of my worries - "Stop watching John Campbell" she said, he's a youtuber and is not officially on the news so he can't be trusted apparently.

Some people just want to believe the news, the official optimistic reports - it's mind boggling.

Called 'Normalcy Bias' apparently. A fair dose of it around on this thread up until today.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalcy_bias

Kermit.de.frog

fr336 wrote: »

Or just make a new one - "THE END OF THE WORLD IS HERE (Updates and comments thread)"

Here is Beasty leading the Current Affairs forum team in September

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbGexBaPzF4

fr336

The good thing about France is whether they like it or not other governments will have to follow. I say good on France and Austria for taking this seriously now rather than later. Well I mean we're already pretty late, but still.

all about the mane

pc7 wrote: »

Small list of items to have ‘just in case’?

And a nuclear bunker. Need to have one of those...

macwal

Would be great if we got a super-spreader here that was handing out social welfare checks.

[Deleted User]

all about the mane wrote: »

And a nuclear bunker. Need to have one of those...

Don’t be silly. Bats live in caves which are kinda like bunkers.

sdanseo

tuxy wrote: »

The google translate says 70 health establishments not hospitals.

Can someone who can speak French confirm it's 70 hospitals?

The article says 38 health establishments are capable of handling epidemic (presumably COVID-19) patients. France will enable 70 more to do the same. Not build 70 more.

More sensationalism.

pc7

all about the mane wrote: »

And a nuclear bunker. Need to have one of those...

Del Boy is selling one

BanditLuke

Panic buying in Milan

https://twitter.com/Royal_Creme/status/1231640096094531587/photo/3

Jim_Hodge

tuxy wrote: »

The google translate says 70 health establishments not hospitals.

Can someone who can speak French confirm it's 70 hospitals?

Nowhere does it say hospitals, only health establishments and health facilities. L'Hôpital or un Hôpital don't get mentioned.

givyjoe

bennyl10 wrote: »

The flu, worldwide, kills about 500K each year.
Corona isn’t anywhere near this.

It has a much higher survival rate among infected also

Yes it’s a worrying disease. But it isn’t ‘catastrophic’

I can't help replying this nonsense every time I see it. This is a brand new virus literally only about 12 to 16 weeks in humans. Flu has been around for hundreds of years and is many multiples less deadly. Isn't catastrophic, yet. Time is the key here, the virus is only getting started.