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babybuilder · 23-02-2020 10:32PM

In contact with a teacher in Milan. All schools closed. Major shutdown.

darjeeling · 23-02-2020 10:32PM

Lyanna Salty Toadstool wrote: »

How do we know though?

No knowledge or testing available until late December/Early January.

It was a particularly rampant dose, worse than a regular cold too. I know several people who were hospitalised with it.

It's possible, maybe not likely but certainly possible. This thing could already be around a long time but it was only noticed when it hit a highly populated region like China.

It might not have started there.

It is not possible, based on multiple independent lines of evidence.

Here are some:

All SARS-CoV-2 whole genome sequences isolated around the world show high similarity and can be traced back to a recent single origin estimated around Dec 2019, in China.

If the virus were already circulating here it would have been picked up at high levels in the tests done so far - >5k in the UK alone, with a handful of positives, all traceable to recent travel to China or contact with people who have recently travelled to China.

Meanwhile, regular flu surveillance in the UK and here *did* identify flu viruses in symptomatic people over the winter period.
There is extensive weekly reporting in both countries (indeed all developed nations) on which flu strains are circulating and how prevalent they are. What we had in December was flu.

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 23-02-2020 10:32PM

Austria has already suspended all trains in and out of Italy.

A big worry for anyone travelling abroad soon would be getting stuck in a lock down somewhere.

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-02-2020 10:33PM

TomSweeney wrote: »

Positives
Weather will gradually get warmer - hopefully it will slow it down ...
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This is true, but often it just moves to the Southern Hem, the Aussies catch their cold when it's gets sunny in Lapland, then switches back to the North for the following season.

The H1N1 is still kicking about and mutating slightly over in the States, this one might (hopefully not) be around for a decade or so.

pc7 · 23-02-2020 10:34PM

Just came on to post the same, all trains now https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1231688863191617536?s=21

23-02-2020 10:34PM

MastiffMrs wrote: »

I'm planning on getting some supplies in so was doing some research today. Is powdered milk available in Ireland? I'll need a substitute for milk that has a longer shelf life. Is soya milk as awful as it used to be?!!

I can’t see it on Tesco’s website but you can get it in Asda if you’re near Northern Ireland.

CinemaGuy45 · 23-02-2020 10:34PM

pc7 wrote: »

Just came on to post the same, all trains now https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1231688863191617536?s=21

Serous question what about flights?

Edit I think this is where this sh*t starts to get real for those still in denial.

BanditLuke · 23-02-2020 10:35PM

Major move by Austria that. Has to be respected putting it's citizens first and foremost.

fr336 · 23-02-2020 10:35PM

Saw a Twitter comment saying why no cases in India and someone said the virus can't transmit in temperatures over 24 degrees - wishful thinking?

Mic 1972 · 23-02-2020 10:37PM

Italy was the first country to stop flights to/from China. The ban was in place already end of January causing controversy

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-02-2020 10:37PM

darjeeling wrote: »

It is not possible, based on multiple independent lines of evidence.

Agree, ever a komputer virus signature can usually be traced back to some hoodie in a basement of the red faction. Or to those other lads that like to use Ire PP's when flying about sticking their stux net into overseas chargepoints.

BanditLuke · 23-02-2020 10:37PM

fr336 wrote: »

Saw a Twitter comment saying why no cases in India and someone said the virus can't transmit in temperatures over 24 degrees - wishful thinking?

No idea but let's all hope that's true.

CinemaGuy45 · 23-02-2020 10:38PM

fr336 wrote: »

Saw a Twitter comment saying why no cases in India and someone said the virus can't transmit in temperatures over 24 degrees - wishful thinking?

I once saw a Twitter post saying Elvis was abducted by Aliens.

pc7 · 23-02-2020 10:38PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Serous question what about flights?

l.

Maybe not as easy to do? Likely locking out lots of your own citizens? Not sure of border set up, are they letting cars in? Is there border checks?

tuxy · 23-02-2020 10:38PM

fr336 wrote: »

Saw a Twitter comment saying why no cases in India and someone said the virus can't transmit in temperatures over 24 degrees - wishful thinking?

What seems probable is that it can spread in just about any climite. But it will not last long in wamer climites.

fr336 · 23-02-2020 10:39PM

I can't understand the big deal about closing borders and other major measures. If the economy is so fragile it can't not collapse for even a day or week, what does that tell us? And you know that thing called snow which grinds Ireland and UK to a halt for days on end? The economy doesn't implode after snow, does it. I just feel it's pure greed in today's world, any last penny to be made and it takes priority. Constant growth, growth, growth la la la...anyway that's for another thread.

fr336 · 23-02-2020 10:39PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I once saw a Twitter post saying Elvis was abducted by Aliens.

People who think we're scaremongering in here really shouldn't search for this on Twitter..

23-02-2020 10:39PM

One thing that won’t help here is that Irish people, especially the elderly, cling to using cash. I am puzzled
by it; even the young folk in Dundrum SC fumble for coins to pay for parking when a quick tap of the card would do.

lobbylad · 23-02-2020 10:41PM

scotchy wrote: »

I think the Government jet can be set up as a medi vac from what I remember.

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Yep, it doubles up as a medi-vac flight, used a lot by crumlin and temple st to bring sick kids over and back to UK for critical ops that aren't carried out here.

BanditLuke · 23-02-2020 10:41PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I once saw a Twitter post saying Elvis was abducted by Aliens.

Rubbish, everyone knows Elvis shot Kennedy and it was a revenge hit.

fr336 · 23-02-2020 10:41PM

Deleted User wrote: »

One thing that won’t help here is that Irish people, especially the elderly, cling to using cash. I am puzzled
by it; even the young folk in Dundrum SC fumble for coins to pay for parking when a quick tap of the card would do.

I was always dead against contactless, thought it was less secure or something. Since this started I'm using contactless all the time - no PIN entries where other people have been. And cash only for taxi drivers - they can keep the change!

BanditLuke · 23-02-2020 10:42PM

Deleted User wrote: »

One thing that won’t help here is that Irish people, especially the elderly, cling to using cash. I am puzzled
by it; even the young folk in Dundrum SC fumble for coins to pay for parking when a quick tap of the card would do.

Cash is king and will remain king in my world.

TomSweeney · 23-02-2020 10:42PM

How long will schools in Milan be shut for ?
same for travel restrictions ? we talking weeks or months here ?

TomSweeney · 23-02-2020 10:44PM

fr336 wrote: »

People who think we're scaremongering in here really shouldn't search for this on Twitter..

Big time, I made the mistake of searching for #coronavirus on twitter yesterday - jesus the amount of ****e!!!

Was like reading excerpts from Stephen Kings The Stand

I come here as it's quite level headed - realistic but fair.

Like Dr. John Videos , facts don't care about feelings !

Nijmegen · 23-02-2020 10:44PM

TomSweeney wrote: »

How long will schools in Milan be shut for ?
same for travel restrictions ? we talking weeks or months here ?

If you get an answer, DM me and we’ll head down to PP, I’ll cut you in on my winnings.

BanditLuke · 23-02-2020 10:44PM

TomSweeney wrote: »

How long will schools in Milan be shut for ?
same for travel restrictions ? we talking weeks or months here ?

Still to early to say. If it goes full wuhan then possibly months, if contained then days possibly.

wakka12 · 23-02-2020 10:45PM

This is just mad lads

France buys tens of millions of facial masks, plans to open 70 extra hospitals
http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/coronavirus-la-france-achete-des-dizaines-de-millions-de-masques-23-02-2020-8265609.php

babybuilder · 23-02-2020 10:45PM

TomSweeney wrote: »

How long will schools in Milan be shut for ?
same for travel restrictions ? we talking weeks or months here ?

Not sure but I'd say a fortnight at a minimum or until they find the source of the infection. Vietnam has closed all schools until end of march according to Dr John Campbell.

tuxy · 23-02-2020 10:45PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Still to early to say. If it goes full wuhan then possibly months, if contained then days possibly.

Would be the same if we were to close the ports like some want.
Could be no flights or ferries until summer time. Not sure how well that would work for an island nation like us.

fr336 · 23-02-2020 10:46PM

wakka12 wrote: »

This is just mad lads

France buys tens of millions of facial masks, to open 70 new hospitals
http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/coronavirus-la-france-achete-des-dizaines-de-millions-de-masques-23-02-2020-8265609.php

Thank you Wakka, for making a bad day 10 times worse lol

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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