new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

citysights · 23-02-2020 12:49AM

BanditLuke wrote: »

I wouldn't beleive the official figures for a minute but let's throw common sense out the window for a minute and say it's accurate imagine what 3-4 weeks of self isolation for a city the size of Dublin would do to our economy, or London to the UK economy etc... and that's before we even realise we haven't got the will to stop a group of thugs racing horses down a motorway nevermind lockdown a city.

We also don't have the know how or work ethic to build the required hospitals within weeks if needed.

In saying all that look at how compliant people are in heedig storm warnings here.Thinking back especially to Ophelia. I reckon Irish people would co operate with every measure to stop the spread were it to arrive here, Here’s hoping anyway...

Kermit.de.frog · 23-02-2020 12:50AM

Good that Italy is taking tough measures.

I have a feeling that maybe this has peaked and is in retreat in China, even though the figures are dubious. We may look back in 9 months wondering what the fuss was about.

MD1990 · 23-02-2020 12:57AM

very worrying from a Dr John video.

he heard from a Iranian colleague that the Fatality Rate in Iran is much higher than 2%.

tom1ie · 23-02-2020 12:57AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Good that Italy is taking tough measures.

I have a feeling that maybe this has peaked and is in retreat in China, even though the figures are dubious. We may look back in 9 months wondering what the fuss was about.

Hopefully but the evidence to back up that or even to back up an idea of the opposite just isn’t there.
It’s a mystery as to how virulent this is and what mortality rate it brings with it over what age/ health groups you belong to.

tom1ie · 23-02-2020 12:59AM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I think we should bring in tough measures here. Specifically, working from home should be enforced effective immediately. For at least a month. Just to be safe.

I AGREE LOL!

tom1ie · 23-02-2020 01:00AM

MD1990 wrote: »

very worrying from a Dr John video.

he heard from a Iranian colleague that the Fatality Rate in Iran is much higher than 2%.

So what was the rate?

Charles Babbage · 23-02-2020 01:07AM

Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »

I have no idea and there is loads of contradictory information online. [Apparently Russia has launched a misinformation campaign about it which seeks to blame the USA.] Here is the article I was thinking of anyway:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/10/could-the-coronavirus-mutate-if-a-vaccine-cant-be-found-in-time

A key point I was interested in:

If a vaccine would remain effective then all the more reason to deploy every effort to hold the pox back until one becomes available.

fritzelly · 23-02-2020 01:12AM

Go Italy

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1231367084296298496

wakka12 · 23-02-2020 01:18AM

18 Italians seriously ill with coronavirus

tom1ie · 23-02-2020 01:20AM

wakka12 wrote: »

18 Italians seriously ill with coronavirus

What age are they?

fritzelly · 23-02-2020 01:20AM

wakka12 wrote: »

18 Italians seriously ill with coronavirus

Makes you wonder if the reports in Iran saying people are literally getting symptoms and dying within days is true
Has it mutated into a worse strain

creditcarder · 23-02-2020 01:21AM

wakka12 wrote: »

18 Italians seriously ill with coronavirus

Are they on vntilators?

wakka12 · 23-02-2020 01:25AM

creditcarder wrote: »

Are they on vntilators?

I don't think people in serious condition require them yet

tom1ie · 23-02-2020 01:25AM

creditcarder wrote: »

Are they on vntilators?

Lots of questions

wakka12 · 23-02-2020 01:26AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Makes you wonder if the reports in Iran saying people are literally getting symptoms and dying within days is true
Has it mutated into a worse strain

It's impossible to know I think we should wait to see the outcome of patients on the cruise to accurately assess the danger

tom1ie · 23-02-2020 01:27AM

wakka12 wrote: »

I don't think people in serious condition require them yet

So are they in serious condition? What’s serious condition btw?

creditcarder · 23-02-2020 01:27AM

wakka12 wrote: »

I don't think people in serious condition require them yet

So what warrants saying that 18 (apparntly all) are in serious condition?

s7ryf3925pivug · 23-02-2020 01:28AM

tom1ie wrote: »

So are they in serious condition? What’s serious condition btw?

pneumonia, for example.

tom1ie · 23-02-2020 01:29AM

Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »

pneumonia, for example.

So pneumonia is a by product of covid 19 no?

Kermit.de.frog · 23-02-2020 01:31AM

tom1ie wrote: »

So pneumonia is a by product of covid 19 no?

Yup

Sean 18 · 23-02-2020 01:31AM

So anyone that gets this is guaranteed to get pneumonia

wakka12 · 23-02-2020 01:31AM

tom1ie wrote: »

So pneumonia is a by product of covid 19 no?

I could be way off but I think like HIV ncov is not a 'disease' but just weakens your immune system and allows pneumonia to manifest

creditcarder · 23-02-2020 01:32AM

tom1ie wrote: »

So are they in serious condition? What’s serious condition btw?

I second this question to Wakka and a source would be good

wakka12 · 23-02-2020 01:33AM

creditcarder wrote: »

I second this question to Wakka and a source would be good

https://mobile.twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1231369486932070400?s=21

No idea what is considered serious in Italian healthcare system but it varies by country

cameramonkey · 23-02-2020 01:34AM

Sean 18 wrote: »

So anyone that gets this is guaranteed to get pneumonia

There are various studies to say that a certain percentage get pneumonia about the 10 day mark after they become symptomatic.

tom1ie · 23-02-2020 01:35AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Yup

Sorry I though we were coming from different ends of the spectrum there.

wakka12 · 23-02-2020 01:35AM

I believe there were some patients who have pneumonia when inspecting the lungs but they were asymptomatic,is that possible ?

fritzelly · 23-02-2020 01:36AM

wakka12 wrote: »

I believe there were some patients who have pneumonia when inspecting the lungs but they were asymptomatic,is that possible ?

The test for it is terrible at best

citysights · 23-02-2020 01:38AM

The Sunday Times is reporting that the British couple,the Abel’s, who were on the cruise ship off the coast of Japan are in a bad way with pneumonia in a Japanese hospital. They are elderly and had been celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary and were the ones who were live posting while in quarantine. Dreadful stuff.Hope they will recover.

tom1ie · 23-02-2020 01:42AM

We’ve said we can’t trust Chinese numbers, so that’s grand let’s go with that. It seems to have taken hold in Italy to a certain extent. So what can we draw from those figures. Italy is in the Eu so we should be able to believe those figures.
If it’s as virulent as its made out to be , so what should be the death rate going by what we’ve already ascertained?

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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