new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

Charles Babbage · 22-02-2020 10:24PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

It seems to be following a similar pattern to what happened in China so you'd expect a peak in europe within the next 6 weeks.

It isn't following the same pattern as Europe as in China.
When there were this number of cases in China the police were arresting anyone who talked about it. Big difference.

hmmm · 22-02-2020 10:28PM

TomSweeney wrote: »

When would this be expected to peak in Europe ? since it is out now , and no stopping it ...

Lots of debate, but some of the better scientists forecast the epidemic doubling every 6.4 days https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30260-9/fulltext

That looks like about 4-5 months. That also assumes there are no public health interventions to slow it down, which there will be. The health authorities will push to spread out the peak rather than have it happen over a short time.

givyjoe · 22-02-2020 10:30PM

TomSweeney wrote: »

It's a bit optimistic for this thread!

But anyway, seriously it looks like this is here to stay and will be another type of flu one can get - perhaps a seasonal one.

I have not gotten flu for 25 years so, fingers crossed .... Jah Bless.....

It's not flu it's not flu it's not flu

Spanish Eyes · 22-02-2020 10:32PM

Any cases in the US yet? I suppose Putin won’t tell us about Russia anyway.

givyjoe · 22-02-2020 10:32PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Some really fast footwork in Australia:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/coronavirus-outbreak-how-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-being-made-20200220-p542rh.html

I am legend style zombie apocalypse incoming.

BorneTobyWilde · 22-02-2020 10:33PM

Trump taking it seriously.

fritzelly · 22-02-2020 10:35PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Some really fast footwork in Australia:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/coronavirus-outbreak-how-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-being-made-20200220-p542rh.html

Means nothing - many vaccines never make it out of the lab as they are lethal to humans
When successful trials have been done on humans then it's time to rejoice
They still don't have vaccines for SARS or MERS do they?

TomSweeney · 22-02-2020 10:38PM

hmmm wrote: »

Lots of debate, but some of the better scientists forecast the epidemic doubling every 6.4 days https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30260-9/fulltext

That looks like about 4-5 months. That also assumes there are no public health interventions to slow it down, which there will be. The health authorities will push to spread out the peak rather than have it happen over a short time.

Bollocks, so I should cancel my trip to Norway in July so ... :mad:

ThePopehimself · 22-02-2020 10:41PM

I'm hoping someone can help...

Could anyone direct me to the Dr. John Campbell live stream where he talks about the effects of ibuprofen and paracetamol on a Virus related temperature? I watched it in the last day or two but cant seem to find it.

I would be very grateful for any help...many thanks

BanditLuke · 22-02-2020 10:41PM

AP now reporting 79 cases in Italy.

Also some talk that tomorrows Inter v Sampdoria game is going to get called off due to the crisis.

Kermit.de.frog · 22-02-2020 10:43PM

fritzelly · 22-02-2020 10:44PM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

I'm hoping someone can help...

Could anyone direct me to the Dr. John Campbell live stream where he talks about the effects of ibuprofen and paracetamol on a Virus related temperature? I watched it in the last day or two but cant seem to find it.

I would be very grateful for any help...many thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBHyBrbU6EI

Ficheall · 22-02-2020 10:48PM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

I'm hoping someone can help...

Could anyone direct me to the Dr. John Campbell live stream where he talks about the effects of ibuprofen and paracetamol on a Virus related temperature? I watched it in the last day or two but cant seem to find it.

I would be very grateful for any help...many thanks

I think the basic idea is that your body raises the temperature (which can be unpleasant) to fight the virus, paracetamol counteracts the temperature rising, so you feel better but are just stopping your body fighting the virus. Think that's more or less the jist.

YFlyer · 22-02-2020 10:51PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Viruses go 3 ways - stays the same, mutates to less damaging, mutates to "It's the end of the fcuking world"

Surely it can mutate a variation of these 3 major ways? Depending on host and environmental conditions.

BanditLuke · 22-02-2020 10:52PM

Italians taking it seriously. But hold on someone get the Italian embassy on the phone and tell them Boards.ie experts are saying it's okay and we are over reacting

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1231349085900353537

SusanC10 · 22-02-2020 10:52PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

If you calculate the time it takes to destroy a city and move on, we're looking at the worldwide destruction of every major city in the next 36 hours .

IIRC - that sounds like Independence Day.

BanditLuke · 22-02-2020 10:54PM

Americans getting peed off with the lack of transparency from the Chinese.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/republican-senator-china-lying-to-the-world-about-coronavirus-outbreak

Mic 1972 · 22-02-2020 10:54PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

It seems to be following a similar pattern to what happened in China so you'd expect a peak in europe within the next 6 weeks.

The virus didn't peak in China yet, China only changed the reporting method but the virus is still spreading

BanditLuke · 22-02-2020 10:58PM

Stupid infectious disease experts, what do they know huh.

https://twitter.com/mxvxllxlll/status/1231330032355815424

ThePopehimself · 22-02-2020 11:02PM

fritzelly wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBHyBrbU6EI

Thank you so much for that Fritzelly.

fritzelly · 22-02-2020 11:03PM

YFlyer wrote: »

Surely it can mutate a variation of these 3 major ways? Depending on host and environmental conditions.

If the host was different then it could change again - animal to human to animal and back to human again - look at the common flu, a few variations but it never mutates to any degree where it changes how severe it is. So this new virus could go one of 3 ways
But I'm no epidemiologist so could be wrong.

BorneTobyWilde · 22-02-2020 11:05PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

IIRC - that sounds like Independence Day.

Susan is on it .

fritzelly · 22-02-2020 11:06PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Stupid infectious disease experts, what do they know huh.

https://twitter.com/mxvxllxlll/status/1231330032355815424

It's what pisses me off about the Tedros guy saying we have a window of opportunity (like a million times).
We are now seeing it has been spread globally, indications were already there but he was acting like we could stop it in it's tracks
Can't wait to see what he says on Monday...we still have a window of opportunity, closely followed by some insinuation countries did not do enough to stop it while giving China a free pass.

fritzelly · 22-02-2020 11:07PM

Italy going full on CCP

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1231351939633471488

BanditLuke · 22-02-2020 11:09PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Italy going full on CCP

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1231351939633471488

And with good cause.

Kermit.de.frog · 22-02-2020 11:10PM

Situation is bad when you need to take such measures.

Hopefully they can contain it because this is our doorstep now.

fritzelly · 22-02-2020 11:10PM

Hubei Update

New Deaths - 96
New Confirmed - 630
Total Confirmed - 64,084

Serious/Critical - 10,698‬

In before BNO

VinLieger · 22-02-2020 11:12PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Italy going full on CCP

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1231351939633471488

They are realising they are weeks late about taking this seriously so have to take pretty draconian but neccessary action just like every other european government is about to come to understand.

The WHO have a lot to answer for.

BanditLuke · 22-02-2020 11:13PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Situation is bad when you need to take such measures.

Hopefully they can contain it because this is our doorstep now.

It's the only option they have. Imagine the chaos if it reaches Rome and takes hold. It has kicked the living sh1t out of the Chinese economy and it's only getting going. This is 100% the correct approach

YFlyer · 22-02-2020 11:14PM

fritzelly wrote: »

If the host was different then it could change again - animal to human to animal and back to human again - look at the common flu, a few variations but it never mutates to any degree where it changes how severe it is. So this new virus could go one of 3 ways
But I'm no epidemiologist so could be wrong.

I'm not an epidemiologist either. Just wondering how the virus in one human host could mutate the same or similar to the virus in other human hosts elsewhere.

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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