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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #8192
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,201 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    While some people have mentioned acquiring more supplies than normal, the next thing I'm going to do is get in some Vitamin D supplements. I have been meaning to for a while but it's one of those things that i don't seem to get around to. Basically, vitamin D seems to play a significant role in preventing/fighting respiratory diseases.
    Vitamin D, the Flu, and the Common Cold: The flu virus wreaks the most havoc in the winter, abating in the summer months. This seasonality led a British doctor to hypothesize that a sunlight-related “seasonal stimulus” triggered influenza outbreaks. (43) More than 20 years after this initial hypothesis, several scientists published a paper suggesting that vitamin D may be the seasonal stimulus. (44) Among the evidence they cite:

    Vitamin D levels are lowest in the winter months. (44)
    The active form of vitamin D tempers the damaging inflammatory response of some white blood cells, while it also boosts immune cells’ production of microbe-fighting proteins. (44)
    Children who have vitamin D-deficiency rickets are more likely to get respiratory infections, while children exposed to sunlight seem to have fewer respiratory infections. (44)
    Adults who have low vitamin D levels are more likely to report having had a recent cough, cold, or upper respiratory tract infection. (45)

    A recent randomized controlled trial in Japanese school children tested whether taking daily vitamin D supplements would prevent seasonal flu. (46) The trial followed nearly 340 children for four months during the height of the winter flu season. Half of the study participants received pills that contained 1,200 IU of vitamin D; the other half received placebo pills. Researchers found that type A influenza rates in the vitamin D group were about 40 percent lower than in the placebo group; there was no significant difference in type B influenza rates. This was a small but promising study, and more research is needed before we can definitively say that vitamin D protects against the flu. But don’t skip your flu shot, even if vitamin D has some benefit.
    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/vitamin-d/

    I have seen some suggestion that ME may be an auto-immune disease and vitamin D seems to play a role in preventing/damping autoimmune activity.

    Ebay, here I come.


  • #8193
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,400 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    tuxy wrote: »
    Yes it really does make it seem improbable that the data coming out of Iran is accurate.

    How many people in Iran are in a position to go the the doctor with a mild illness which most people get? Of course it's inaccurate, as it probably is all over the world. That's why drawing mortality figures right now is not smart, but there simply is no point trying to explain that to some people.


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Look stop the silliness yes 5 people out of 28 are dead and this is very sad but let us remember this number is small it is not like this thing spreads or something.

    The sensible thing to do is not buy anything extra or make any preparations.
    Sure if you run out of food just ring for a pizza.

    Your constant attempts at "humour" and sarcasm are getting really tiresome. It's the behaviour of a teenager trying to get likes.


  • #8194
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,583 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    The US's CDC said they are monitoring the situation with 34 cases (excluding some citizens still in Japan, from the plague ship), but overall totals are expected to increase.
    Their big chief said: There may be a time when more aggressive measures, such as temporarily closing schools or businesses in the U.S., are necessary

    The other chief (of the WHO) keeps saying 'a small window of oportunity remains' and current status is: 'tipping point'.


  • #8195
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    laurah591 wrote: »
    Anyone else find the Iran situation bizarre. 9 Deaths now out of 28 cases; exported at least 2 cases if not more (Lebanon & UAE)
    Must be a complete hotbed over there - what sort of medical facilities does Iran have to handle this?

    Also local reports of first case in Iraq, a student who visited Qom


  • #8196
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    24 cases in Japan today. 133 total now


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  • #8197
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,188 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Strange how we expected the tipping point a week or two ago but only now starting, makes me believe the 14 day incubation period is more common and not 5/6 days


  • #8198
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Almost exactly 50% of patients on the Diamond Princess are asymptomatic positives. I dont know if that means they are never going to show symptoms or if they are still in the incubation phase but if it is the former case then there are likely several million cases worldwide already


  • #8199
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Almost exactly 50% of patients on the Diamond Princess are asymptomatic positives so far

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  • #8200
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
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    Yes it is likely many will experience symptoms as it progresses. But there are cases of children in particular who have contracted the illness and not experienced any symptoms throughout the course of the disease progression


  • #8201
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Yes it is likely many will experience symptoms as it progresses. But there are cases of children in particular who have contracted the illness and not experienced any symptoms throughout the course of the disease progression

    We still don't know enough yet but we still keep getting new information everyday.


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  • #8202
    wylo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭wylo


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Almost exactly 50% of patients on the Diamond Princess are asymptomatic positives. I dont know if that means they are never going to show symptoms or if they are still in the incubation phase but if it is the former case then there are likely several million cases worldwide already
    I see this is as a positive to be honest. Because perhaps it means only severe cases account for 70K confirmed infected.


    This would bring the death toll down to a ridiculously low %.


  • #8203
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    wylo wrote: »
    I see this is as a positive to be honest. Because perhaps it means only severe cases account for 70K confirmed infected.


    This would bring the death toll down to a ridiculously low % SO FAR

    There have been reports of people recovering having a relapse then dying.


  • #8204
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Look on the bright side people were crying about this being a bit racist to the Chinese it looks like it's time to say away from all those Pizza places and chip shops now.

    If India gets it next sure we will all have to go on a diet.:D


  • #8205
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,201 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    laurah591 wrote: »
    Anyone else find the Iran situation bizarre. 9 Deaths now out of 28 cases; exported at least 2 cases if not more (Lebanon & UAE)
    Must be a complete hotbed over there - what sort of medical facilities does Iran have to handle this?

    Mostly they rely on Allahu Akbar.


  • #8206
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Mostly they rely on Allahu Akbar.


    NOT FUNNY.

    I will kill YOU.

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  • #8207
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    See I am one of the people taking this thing serious and yet I am cracking jokes.

    Getting real information is not causing panic.

    I don't think we are all doomed but nor do it think sure it will be grand.

    The spread we are seeing is not good let us be honest.


  • #8208
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,907 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    I wonder what film director in a few years will make Covid-19: The Movie. And what actors? :)

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #8209
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Nonoperational wrote: »
    How many people in Iran are in a position to go the the doctor with a mild illness which most people get? Of course it's inaccurate, as it probably is all over the world. That's why drawing mortality figures right now is not smart, but there simply is no point trying to explain that to some people.





    Your constant attempts at "humour" and sarcasm are getting really tiresome. It's the behaviour of a teenager trying to get likes.


    No it is my attempt to show we can take this thing serious without panic.

    Trying to brush things under the carpet is was causes panic.

    The constant drone is only a 2% death rate is annoying.
    People have recovered and relapsed and died.
    People who have tested negative have later tested positive.

    The thing seems to have a pretty long incubation period and the number of dead seems to be going up much faster the last few days.


  • #8210
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    I wonder what film director in a few years will make Covid-19: The Movie. And what actors? :)


    I can't wait for when all of this will be just another Netflix series to be honest


  • #8211
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,748 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    I wonder what film director in a few years will make Covid-19: The Movie. And what actors? :)


    The ones that survive.


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  • #8212
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    saabsaab wrote: »
    The ones that survive.

    Stop it


  • #8213
    Dave0301
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    No it is my attempt to show we can take this thing serious without panic.

    Posting frivolous responses doesn't indicate seriousness.

    I could understand if the thread was in After Hours, but I thought Current Affairs was for a slightly more high more high brow discussion (emphasis on the slightly).


  • #8214
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Dave0301 wrote: »
    Posting frivolous responses doesn't indicate seriousness.

    I could understand if the thread was in After Hours, but I thought Current Affairs was for a slightly more high more high brow discussion (emphasis on the slightly ��).

    Very slightly anyway I will lay off the jokes.
    My point is valid however this seems to be more serious than a lot of people will accept.


  • #8215
    tromtipp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭tromtipp


    I find CinemaGuy45' s graveyard humour unobjectionable, in contrast to the point-and-giggle brigade who don't seem to have read any of the data, and ask why anyone is worried about a disease that only kills old people and ill people.


  • #8216
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    All, be at peace ✌


  • #8217
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://torino.repubblica.it/cronaca/2020/02/22/news/primo_caso_a_torino_un_uomo_di_40_anni_che_avrebbe_avuto_contatti_con_i_casi_in_lombardia-249274028/
    A new case in a third region of North Italy, in Turin


  • #8218
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    All, aren't mods the mods not the posters, let the mods mod

    I think that went over your head I took it as a stop it your causing me to spit out my drink.:)

    See look again.
    saabsaab wrote: »
    The ones that survive.
    all about the mane wrote: »
    Stop it


  • #8219
    SeaBreezes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    My god the internet/thought police are out in force today!!!

    Cinema Guy, don't stop, loving the wit. Its something I've always loved about the Irish, the ability to find the humour in any situation.

    Life is short lads, gotta laugh when we can :).


  • #8220
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    SeaBreezes wrote: »
    My god the internet/thought police are out in force today!!!

    Cinema Guy, don't stop, living the wit. Its something I've always loved about the Irish, the ability to find the humour in any situation.

    Life is short lads, gotta laugh when we can :).

    Yes the only people who seem worried about a panic are the ones with a stick up their ass you can picture them now.

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    I will worry when not if this thing reaches Dublin.


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  • #8221
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,907 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    An Rte Report on the first European deaths.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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