new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

4068ac1elhodqr · 22-02-2020 12:18AM

fr336 wrote: »

Here in UK I was worried about no deal Brexit having an effect on medical supplies, food etc - that was a needless worry as clearly the politicians were never going to let it happen. Then this bloody thing comes along!

Don't forget the (360bn) African locust plague, currently on it's way to China's Western border. Will likely turn and head for Yorkshire or somewhere, once it warms up a bit as the ice melts on the NorthPole and simultaneously Wormwood appears upon skies above.

In other news, the NHS there is rolling out home testing kits, to save people showing up at A&E, getting lost, and wandering around various hospital wards with the Kung-flu dry cough (like what happened last week).
https://www.england.nhs.uk/2020/02/nhs-statement-on-home-testing-for-coronavirus/

fr336 · 22-02-2020 12:19AM

skimpydoo wrote: »

Brexit will have an effect on medical supplies. The uranium used to create cancer treatment is imported from France and has a 6 day shelf life.

But it's now assumed we won't be going for a no deal Brexit. In any case it wouldn't happen till at least Dec 31st 2020, and if Coronavirus has had no major impact on us all by then I'd be feeling very grateful...

fr336 · 22-02-2020 12:21AM

Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »

Don't forget the (360bn) African locust plague, currently on it's way to China's Western border. Will likely turn and head for Yorkshire or somewhere, once it warms up a bit as the ice melts on the NorthPole and simultaneously Wormwood appears upon skies above.

In other news, the NHS there is rolling out home testing kits, to save people showing up at A&E, getting lost, and wandering around various hospital wards with the Kung-flu dry cough (like what happened last week).
https://www.england.nhs.uk/2020/02/nhs-statement-on-home-testing-for-coronavirus/

Yorkshire or somewhere lol, thanks for the positivity!

old_aussie · 22-02-2020 12:21AM

Coronavirus has spread to the Chinese penal system

Thousands of prisoners affected, the death sentence for most.

On local Wollongong radio, news of Chinese military bases affected and are now in lock down.

If ya gonna do it Donny, now's the time to wage war on China. Just hold back on the ground troops for a while.

North Korea will be decimated as no resources/medical skills available for mass infections.

Kermit.de.frog · 22-02-2020 12:21AM

Another case in Italy, in Cremona.

4068ac1elhodqr · 22-02-2020 12:28AM

The big chief at the WHO said today this is where were at:

Really it was at that stage last Monday fortnight, around 4pm.

Kermit.de.frog · 22-02-2020 12:34AM

CCP tells big chief how it is

ChikiChiki · 22-02-2020 12:40AM

Feck it, reckon I will double/triple buy some stuff in tomorrow's Aldi shop. Would only take a few cases to break out here for it to be suddenly top of RTE news and panic to set in.

wylo · 22-02-2020 12:42AM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Feck it, reckon I will double/triple buy some stuff in tomorrow's Aldi shop. Would only take a few cases to break out here for it to be suddenly top of RTE news and panic to set in.

A few? more like 1

fritzelly · 22-02-2020 12:44AM

Checking Hubei gov site and no news - are they just releasing numbers for the whole of China now

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1231015859168124928

Kermit.de.frog · 22-02-2020 12:48AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Checking Hubei gov site and no news - are they just releasing numbers for the whole of China now

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1231015859168124928

Guess what the fatality rate is....again

fritzelly · 22-02-2020 12:54AM

And another case in Italy but not to worry China's got it under control - next week the dead will be rising as their numbers mysteriously go into negative figures

drunkmonkey · 22-02-2020 01:01AM

Nothing to worry about, just a little update from the Imperial College London* centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis

Summary Report 6
Since the start of the COVID-19 epidemic in late 2019, there are now 29 affected regions and countries with over 1000 confirmed cases outside of mainland China. In previous reports, we estimated the likely epidemic size in Wuhan City based on air traffic volumes and the number of detected cases internationally. Here we analysed COVID-19 cases exported from mainland China to different regions and countries, comparing the country-specific rates of detected and confirmed cases per flight volume to estimate the relative sensitivity of surveillance in different countries. Although travel restrictions from Wuhan City and other cities across China may have reduced the absolute number of travellers to and from China, we estimated that about two thirds of COVID-19 cases exported from mainland China have remained undetected worldwide, potentially resulting in multiple chains of as yet undetected human-to-human transmission outside mainland China.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-global-infectious-disease-analysis/news--wuhan-coronavirus/

wylo · 22-02-2020 01:04AM

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

The disproportionate death rate between inside and outside of the epicentre gives me hope.

Outside it, at a glance it seems more like .3% rather than 2%.

And the sample size has gotten big enough now to make a call on that.

fritzelly · 22-02-2020 01:07AM

South Korea looks a bit fecked - 142 new cases

wakka12 · 22-02-2020 01:08AM

wylo wrote: »

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

The disproportionate death rate between inside and outside of the epicentre gives me hope.

Outside it, at a glance it seems more like .3% rather than 2%.

And the sample size has gotten big enough now to make a call on that.

3.5% in Hubei, 0.75% mainland China outside Hubei, 1% globally/internationally

I think it will turn out to be about 0.4-1% overall. Perhaps varying by country depending on the general health of citizens, age profile of the country, and standards of healthcare

The outcome of the infected patients on board the Princess Diamon will effectively prove exactly what the total mortality rate is though in the 50+ age group. I think its pretty obvious by now that the mortality rate in those under 40 is not any more than seasonal influenza.

4068ac1elhodqr · 22-02-2020 01:10AM

Once it starts to get beyond bingo type of numbers for any country e.g. 88 cases, they're donald ducked.

Roll up the drawbridge there Róisín.

wylo · 22-02-2020 01:10AM

wakka12 wrote: »

3.5% in Hubei, 0.75% mainland China outside Hubei, 1% globally/internationally

Is the 1% excluding Hubei or including it?

wakka12 · 22-02-2020 01:13AM

wylo wrote: »

Is the 1% excluding Hubei or including it?

3.5% for Hubei only. 0.75% for all other Chinese provinces excluding Hubei.
1% for all countries outside of China. 15 deaths outside China, 1500 cases, 1% exactly

wakka12 · 22-02-2020 01:20AM

Nearly 350 cases in South Korea now..10x the number of cases it had 48 hours ago

That super spreader wan really did a number on them

Kermit.de.frog · 22-02-2020 01:22AM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1231021220835069952

tuxy · 22-02-2020 01:24AM

old_aussie wrote: »

Coronavirus has spread to the Chinese penal system

Thousands of prisoners affected, the death sentence for most.

Since most people recover with no medical intervention how is this possible?
Do China plan to execute all infected inmates?

wakka12 · 22-02-2020 01:25AM

South Korea today reported at least 5 times more cases than mainland China (outside Hubei) despite China having 30x times higher population...seems a bit off!

Carol25 · 22-02-2020 01:27AM

wakka12 wrote: »

3.5% in Hubei, 0.75% mainland China outside Hubei, 1% globally/internationally

I think it will turn out to be about 0.4-1% overall. Perhaps varying by country depending on the general health of citizens, age profile of the country, and standards of healthcare

The outcome of the infected patients on board the Princess Diamon will effectively prove exactly what the total mortality rate is though in the 50+ age group. I think its pretty obvious by now that the mortality rate in those under 40 is not any more than seasonal influenza.

Is it though? Why are the critical conditions in Italy 40 year olds...

fritzelly · 22-02-2020 01:28AM

Hubei Numbers

New Deaths - 106
New Confirmed - 366
Total Confirmed - 63,454

Serious/Critical - 10,692

So only 3 deaths outside Hubei today - More deaths in the rest of the world population's per capita that makes no sense. Not to mention the confirmed cases in a population of nearly a billion

Kermit.de.frog · 22-02-2020 01:28AM

wakka12 wrote: »

South Korea today reported 5 times more cases than mainland China (outside Hubei) despite China having 20x times higher population...seems a bit off!

China is a communist regime.

South Korea is an open democracy.

That's the difference.

wakka12 · 22-02-2020 01:30AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

China is a communist regime.

South Korea is an open democracy.

That's the difference.

I never really believed totally that China was lying big time about the number of cases and deaths until today, South Korea really made it very clear that they are

Call Me Jimmy · 22-02-2020 01:36AM

On Jan 25 the expert modellers said 10 times the numbers. Look at the growth around then and after (which itself was limited by testing even if they became more honest).

Then Feb 3rd Xi has has the standing meeting and the graph inverts.

Then map THAT onto the world as the WHO says travel bans are racist or something

22-02-2020 01:40AM

China was complaining about travel bans while locking down their own population, goes to show the numberwang was to get rid of the bans. In their interest to spread it, beggar thy neighbor style

Be sensible and stock up a little, in a lockdown the less shopping you have to do the less exposure.

Dangerous to accept it as part of the normal cold and flu season as it might start wiping young healthy people too on the second round. We simply don't Know. Risk too high to take.

Don't bet on a vaccine, still none for SARs.

Ficheall · 22-02-2020 01:40AM

wakka12 wrote: »

I think its pretty obvious by now that the mortality rate in those under 40 is not any more than seasonal influenza.

"Pretty obvious" based on what?

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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