new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

Nijmegen · 21-02-2020 10:28AM

bodhrandude wrote: »

Scary stuff happening in the Ukraine, protesters attacking buses carrying Chinese Evacuees. (BBC).

Another sorbet to cleanse the palates of those who say "Ahh sure this is all no big deal." The virus is only the first order effect. Look at how quickly humans turn on other humans when things start getting even a little bit ropey.

laurah591 · 21-02-2020 10:29AM

https://mobile.twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1230800894419140610
Iran - 4 deaths rally screws with mortality stats

wakka12 · 21-02-2020 10:30AM

laurah591 wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1230800894419140610
Iran

wow 4 deaths, Iran must have at least 1000 cases already

Also 2 new cases in Italy this morning, wonder if it is related to the man in a critical condition in Milan

pc7 · 21-02-2020 10:30AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Everything is completely normal here.

At least that’s something, you’d go off your nut stuck in.

laurah591 · 21-02-2020 10:36AM

wakka12 wrote: »

wow 4 deaths, Iran must have at least 1000 cases already

Also 2 new cases in Italy this morning, wonder if it is related to the man in a critical condition in Milan

Yes it's the wife and friend of the 38 year old in critical in Milan

Any word on the original 2 critical cases in Italy? They must be into week 3 now

BanditLuke · 21-02-2020 10:38AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

We're sleep walking into this if it's in Italy over a month, https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=it&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://milano.repubblica.it/cronaca/2020/02/21/news/coronavirus_a_milano_contaggiato_38enne_e_un_italiano_ricoverato_a_codogno-249121707/&usg=ALkJrhiRh-Mg7OuLT3gLYOtlZ0EerH0M6w&refresh_ce

It's okay. RTE did a piece on it last night on prime time. Nothing to see here keep consuming ah sure we'll be grand etc...

21-02-2020 10:41AM

pc7 wrote: »

At least that’s something, you’d go off your nut stuck in.

I'm enjoying it. No point in looking forward to retiring if I can't enjoy six weeks now.

BanditLuke · 21-02-2020 10:42AM

Nijmegen wrote: »

Another sorbet to cleanse the palates of those who say "Ahh sure this is all no big deal." The virus is only the first order effect. Look at how quickly humans turn on other humans when things start getting even a little bit ropey.

Look what happened here when it snows. People tearing down whole buildings with JCB's.

Like i said weeks ago it's the ones that aren't prepared and will panic that will be a massive problem.

Hector Savage · 21-02-2020 10:45AM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Look what happened here when it snows. People tearing down whole buildings with JCB's.

Like i said weeks ago it's the ones that aren't prepared and will panic that will be a massive problem.

Prepared for what ?
You think supply lines will completely collapse ?
80% of the cases are mild ffs....

Mic 1972 · 21-02-2020 10:46AM

it's striking how a young man is in such critical conditions

laurah591 · 21-02-2020 10:51AM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

it's striking how a young man is in such critical conditions

Perhaps he has an underlying condition etc... does seem young

givyjoe · 21-02-2020 10:53AM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Prepared for what ?
You think supply lines will completely collapse ?
80% of the cases are mild ffs....

So why is half of China locked down?

Hector Savage · 21-02-2020 10:58AM

givyjoe wrote: »

So why is half of China locked down?

Epicentre, poor hygiene, thousands had it before it was acknowledged.
Can't see that many cases in Europe/West ...

Hector Savage · 21-02-2020 10:58AM

Interesting Q+A with Dr. John ...

givyjoe · 21-02-2020 11:03AM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Epicentre, poor hygiene, thousands had it before it was acknowledged.
Can't see that many cases in Europe/West ...

That doesn't answer the question of why it's locked down. There weren't thousands of cases before it was acknowledged or even locked down. (Well tens anyway)

Why can't you see it? What basis do you have for your prediction? There is absolutey no reason why it won't happen here. It's highly contagious and as we know has a long incubation period and doctors still aren't sure of all of the transmission methods. A perfect recipe for outbreaks to be repeated worldwide. The only difference so far is that it hasn't spread quite as rapidly. haven't the CDC in the USA already pretty much admitted they're just trying to slow it down? It's inevitable unfortunately.

Candamir · 21-02-2020 11:06AM

fritzelly wrote: »

So people not trained to read x rays are giving us the all clear

skimpydoo wrote: »

Yep.

Nope.

People not trained to take x rays are taking x rays.
Doctors are trained to read them, radiographers take them.
Seems like a case of the hospital taking advantage of the NCHDs.
No surprise there really.

BanditLuke · 21-02-2020 11:07AM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Prepared for what ?
You think supply lines will completely collapse ?
80% of the cases are mild ffs....

Pandemic
Yes
Yes and 20% are not.

laurah591 · 21-02-2020 11:07AM

Candamir wrote: »

Nope.

People not trained to take x rays are taking x rays.
Doctors are trained to read them, radiographers take them.
Seems like a case of the hospital taking advantage of the NCHDs.
No surprise they’re really.

NCHDs?

igCorcaigh · 21-02-2020 11:12AM

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1230812077586993159?s=19

laurah591 · 21-02-2020 11:12AM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1230810772126785537

And Israels first case.... imported from Princess ship

igCorcaigh · 21-02-2020 11:14AM

laurah591 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1230810772126785537

And Israels first case.... imported from Princess ship

And worldometers updated already.
Great site.

pc7 · 21-02-2020 11:15AM

laurah591 wrote: »

And Israels first case.... imported from Princess ship

That ship is the stuff of nightmares, Jesus they are riddled!

Candamir · 21-02-2020 11:16AM

laurah591 wrote: »

NCHDs?

Non Consultant Hospital Doctors.

RebelButtMunch · 21-02-2020 11:16AM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Prepared for what ?
You think supply lines will completely collapse ?
80% of the cases are mild ffs....

I can see both sides of this. If you get it without complications you'll be grand. If you get complications you'll could end up in a health system that could be overwhelmed.

laurah591 · 21-02-2020 11:17AM

Dam 2nd death in SK now being reported

YFlyer · 21-02-2020 11:33AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah exactly. What are the chances?! With the numbers they're reporting it seems crazy that a tourist would pick it up. A tourist going to hubei sure but Iran...

Infected toilet at an international airport.

Martina1991 · 21-02-2020 11:38AM

fritzelly wrote:

So people not trained to read x rays are giving us the all clear

The article said "x-rays on patients exhibiting coronavirus symptoms were carried out by doctors rather than radiographers at Cork University Hospital (CUH)".

That sounds crazy to me. How would they expect NCHDs to use equipment they have nor not been trained to operate. It's dangerous.

wakka12 · 21-02-2020 11:38AM

2nd death in South Korea

Citizens of two towns outside Milan advised to stay indoors and avoid social contact

21-02-2020 11:45AM

laurah591 wrote: »

Dam 2nd death in SK now being reported

And South Korea has among the world’s best medical care, with highest survivorship for several diseases. If you can be cured or treated, it’s likely to be here.

However I was reading that a certain religious sect is the seat of many infections. Sensible people will alter how they practice religion, and sensible pastors will enable best precautions, but some ultra stick-to-the-book practices will no doubt be one of the big factor spreading disease. My mother had old school Catholic faith but she always believed in abstaining from the sign of the peace handshake and attending Mass if there was an possibility of spreading infection if she had a cough etc., and indeed if there was known to be a particularly bad virus doing the rounds she fully believed in avoiding Mass.

wakka12 · 21-02-2020 11:46AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

And South Korea has among the world’s best medical care, with highest survivorship for several diseases. If you can be cured or treated, it’s likely to be here.

However I was reading that a certain religious sect is the seat of many infections. Sensible people will alter how they practice religion, and sensible pastors will enable best precautions, but some ultra stick-to-the-book practices will no doubt be one of the big factor spreading disease. My mother had old school Catholic faith but she always believed in abstaining from the sign of the peace handshake and attending Mass if there was an possibility of spreading infection if she had a cough etc., and indeed if there was known to be a particularly bad virus doing the rounds she fully believed in avoiding Mass.

All branches of that church have now been ordered to close across South Korea

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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