Ireland Team Talk XI: Team of nervoUS MOD warning Post 1

kilns · 19-02-2020 01:58PM

I expect an unchanged team. However, it would be tinged with a little sadness. Doris for POM, Cooney for Murray would make me smile again

molloyjh · 19-02-2020 02:05PM

15. Jordan Larmour (St Mary’s College/Leinster) 23 caps
14. Andrew Conway (Garryowen/Munster) 20 caps
13. Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Leinster) 42 caps
12. Bundee Aki (Galwegians/Connacht) 25 caps
11. Jacob Stockdale (Lurgan/Ulster) 27 caps
10. Jonathan Sexton (St Marys College/Leinster) 90 caps CAPTAIN
9. Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster) 80 caps

1. Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 97 caps
2. Rob Herring (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 10 caps
3. Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf/Leinster) 43 caps
4. Iain Henderson (Academy/Ulster) 55 caps
5. James Ryan (UCD/Leinster) 25 caps
6. Peter O’Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster) 66 caps
7. Josh van der Flier (UCD/Leinster) 25 caps
8. CJ Stander (Shannon/Munster) 40 caps

Replacements:
16. Ronan Kelleher (Lansdowne/Leinster) 2 caps
17. Dave Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster) 38 caps
18. Andrew Porter (UCD/Leinster) 25 caps
19. Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster) 69 caps
20. Caelan Doris (St Mary’s College/Leinster) 1 cap
21. John Cooney (Terenure College/Ulster) 10 caps
22. Ross Byrne (UCD/Leinster) 5 caps
23. Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster) 83 caps

Doris for Deegan the only change.

kilns · 19-02-2020 02:08PM

molloyjh wrote: »

15. Jordan Larmour (St Mary’s College/Leinster) 23 caps
14. Andrew Conway (Garryowen/Munster) 20 caps
13. Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Leinster) 42 caps
12. Bundee Aki (Galwegians/Connacht) 25 caps
11. Jacob Stockdale (Lurgan/Ulster) 27 caps
10. Jonathan Sexton (St Marys College/Leinster) 90 caps CAPTAIN
9. Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster) 80 caps

1. Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 97 caps
2. Rob Herring (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 10 caps
3. Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf/Leinster) 43 caps
4. Iain Henderson (Academy/Ulster) 55 caps
5. James Ryan (UCD/Leinster) 25 caps
6. Peter O’Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster) 66 caps
7. Josh van der Flier (UCD/Leinster) 25 caps
8. CJ Stander (Shannon/Munster) 40 caps

Replacements:
16. Ronan Kelleher (Lansdowne/Leinster) 2 caps
17. Dave Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster) 38 caps
18. Andrew Porter (UCD/Leinster) 25 caps
19. Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster) 69 caps
20. Caelan Doris (St Mary’s College/Leinster) 1 cap
21. John Cooney (Terenure College/Ulster) 10 caps
22. Ross Byrne (UCD/Leinster) 5 caps
23. Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster) 83 caps

Doris for Deegan the only change.

not a surprise but still disappointing

The Rape of Lucretia · 19-02-2020 02:13PM

Still, it definitively answer a few questions : in Andy's mind, POM is better than Doris, and Conway is better than Earlsie.
Apart from his POM mistake, its our best team, clearly.
2021 could be the Year of the Doris though.

Shefwedfan · 19-02-2020 02:16PM

kilns wrote: »

not a surprise but still disappointing

I agree.....

Still all the people here are happy......

lawrencesummers · 19-02-2020 02:27PM

Surprised hodnett wasn’t involved during the week. His stats are excellent and he knows where the try line is.
I can see a back row of CJ , Hodnett and Doris being very dangerous down the road.

Former Former · 19-02-2020 02:29PM

kilns wrote: »

not a surprise but still disappointing

It really is time to get over it and move on.

Former Former · 19-02-2020 02:31PM

Anyway, it's a good team. If they play like they did against Wales, especially if England are Vunipolaless, then we're in with a big shout.

Handicap is 7 points which is probably fair given it's in Twickenham but I'm optimistic

kilns · 19-02-2020 02:32PM

Former Former wrote: »

It really is time to get over it and move on.

move on from what?

Burkie1203 · 19-02-2020 02:35PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Surprised hodnett wasn’t involved during the week. His stats are excellent and he knows where the try line is.
I can see a back row of CJ , Hodnett and Doris being very dangerous down the road.

Hodnett has one training run v Kings. Let's remember that.

Team is a bit meh. Think England will win by 5-10.

prawnsambo · 19-02-2020 02:40PM

kilns wrote: »

move on from what?

You have to get over it first. Do keep up.

kilns · 19-02-2020 02:41PM

prawnsambo wrote: »

You have to get over it first. Do keep up.

I'm over it

Granny15 · 19-02-2020 02:45PM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Hodnett has one training run v Kings. Let's remember that.

Team is a bit meh. Think England will win by 5-10.

Don't go throwing your crepe on everyone if you think so.

I think we're in with a great chance of a win.

Minus the Vunipolas England are ordinary.

kilns · 19-02-2020 02:46PM

I do hope I am wrong but I think the Welsh game could be a bit like the Scottish game at the World cup as it gave us a false sense of where we were. In reality Wales were woeful, played with the 4th choicer 10 for a chunk of the 2nd half, a rookie at 13 and missing 3 or 4 of their most important players.

As I said I hope I am wrong this is a much bigger test but not as big as it would have been considering the guys England are missing.

I am not surprised by the selection because as a new coach why break up a winning side in a six nations cycle but I am disappointed as I would like to see Doris and Cooney as I geniunely believe they would improve the team over the current stagnant 6 and 9. Just my opinion, dont shoot

kilns · 19-02-2020 02:46PM

Granny15 wrote: »

Don't go throwing your crepe on everyone if you think so.

I think we're in with a great chance of a win.

Minus the Vunipolas England are ordinary.

Tuliagi too would be huge loss for them

Former Former · 19-02-2020 02:48PM

kilns wrote: »

move on from what?

That's the spirit!

Burkie1203 · 19-02-2020 02:49PM

Granny15 wrote: »

Don't go throwing your crepe on everyone if you think so.

I think we're in with a great chance of a win.

Minus the Vunipolas England are ordinary.

I think England are fairly ordinary and we can win but I think we might still struggle with ball in hand if we can't get the ball into space out wide quick enough to make ground as we are only a few games into a new way of playing and it hasn't been smooth so far execution wise

jm08 · 19-02-2020 02:51PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Still, it definitively answer a few questions : in Andy's mind, POM is better than Doris, and Conway is better than Earlsie.
Apart from his POM mistake, its our best team, clearly.
2021 could be the Year of the Doris though.

I'd say its more down to horses for courses. England has a very good lineout and POM is better there. No Vunipolos will make a huge difference as well.

As for Conway and Earls - Earls is more versatile and a better bench option than Conway (who is playing out of his skin) with Henshaws injury profile.

Doris might get his start v. France, so don't despair yet!

Sanjuro · 19-02-2020 03:06PM

Sorry, I must have missed some news, but is Billy Vunipola out? I know Mako has a family emergency, but I'd thought Billy was still in the squad.

19-02-2020 03:07PM

jm08 wrote: »

I'd say its more down to horses for courses. England has a very good lineout and POM is better there. No Vunipolos will make a huge difference as well.

As for Conway and Earls - Earls is more versatile and a better bench option than Conway (who is playing out of his skin) with Henshaws injury profile.

Doris might get his start v. France, so don't despair yet!

He certainly isn't picking Conway ahead of Earls because Earls is a better bench option

prawnsambo · 19-02-2020 03:09PM

Sanjuro wrote: »

Sorry, I must have missed some news, but is Billy Vunipola out? I know Mako has a family emergency, but I'd thought Billy was still in the squad.

Broke his arm again.

Sanjuro · 19-02-2020 03:18PM

prawnsambo wrote: »

Broke his arm again.

Damn. That's a shame.

kilns · 19-02-2020 03:18PM

If Tuliagi doesnt make it, I would be confident of us winning. England already weakened will not have the power game to overpower us and get over the gain line which our defence should handle then with ease.

I cant see us scoring too many tries ourselves however as I cant see much quickball for our backs

Unfortunately the referee (one of the worst) could have a major say

lawrencesummers · 19-02-2020 03:33PM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Hodnett has one training run v Kings. Let's remember that.

Team is a bit meh. Think England will win by 5-10.

That’s pretty much the same as Degan and dorris

jm08 · 19-02-2020 03:39PM

AdamD wrote: »

He certainly isn't picking Conway ahead of Earls because Earls is a better bench option

Both could be accommodated in the same team. I suppose Earls is a better better bench option than Stockdale.

connachta · 19-02-2020 03:42PM

So you give Dillane back please, IRFU

arsebiscuits1 · 19-02-2020 03:43PM

connachta wrote: »

So you give Dillane back please, IRFU

Only Addison and O'Toole released apparently

https://www.irishrugby.ie/2020/02/19/ireland-team-named-for-twickenham/

connachta · 19-02-2020 03:45PM

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Only Addison and O'Toole released apparently

https://www.irishrugby.ie/2020/02/19/ireland-team-named-for-twickenham/

FFS
We're going with a 95K 20y-o guy in Murrayfield again

Shefwedfan · 19-02-2020 03:45PM

jm08 wrote: »

Both could be accommodated in the same team. I suppose Earls is a better better bench option than Stockdale.

Why? Earls over wing/13, can’t really say 15 anymore

Stockdale covers wing/15...so both give similar flexibility

I do think it same sense to have an experienced back on bench to come on, especially Earls who still have pace and would be up against a tired defence

PTH2009 · 19-02-2020 03:52PM

Hard to believe a win Sunday and were possibly going into a grand slam game in Paris

A repeat of 2018 would be nice Sunday and then to get a triple crown would be nice also

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