Is beer in Ireland bad?

elperello wrote: »

Read my post again.

I'm not supporting every price point in pubs just stating the obvious.
If you buy a bottle in Tesco's take it home and drink it, it's your chair, heat and light, Sky Sports etc. etc.

Above all it's your choice.

Go to the pub or stay at home.

I read it.

My point is that the price difference between the price of a .330 btl in a pub and a home consumption does not compare.

Nowhere even remotely near
Sorry bout that chief.

elperello wrote: »

Next time you go to a pub belly up to the bar decorate the mahogany enjoy your drink and relax.

You can have a nice bottle at home anytime, going to the pub is a different type of experience.

Indeed.... indeed..... but not worth €4 eurons a pop, if you don’t mind me pointing out.

A plate-faced barman with ‘surly’ etched on his chops and a rancid customer talking through his nose about how ‘Liverpewell’ is the best ‘teyyam’ ever doesn’t do it for this poster, but...each to his own as they say.

Live and let live.

elperello wrote: »

You're going to the wrong pub.
Find the right one and you will never look back.
Or alternatively stay at home.

That’s exactly what I will do.

No pub I have ever been in justifies getting robbed legally.

Sorry bout that, a chara, but I know when I am being robbed.

Horsing out a score for four buidéals I could buy for quarter that elsewhere!!

Brenner knows when some dude hand rods him:pac:

mcdaids69 wrote: »

alot of people ive chatted to have said alot of the tap beers are giving them stomoch problems next day..i found same myself.changed beers,have drank every type to know what gives me hangover and i dont drink in excess but somehow it seems to be st james products,guinness went very bad but i assumed it was ingredients change as vegans complained

I have recently found the same stomach problems after a few beers. Didn't happen a few years ago but now after just 3 or 4?
I had put it down to age or maybe a bad pint.
Perhaps my choice of beer is not drunk as much and the line is a bit old?

mcdaids69 wrote: »

ex barman of 10 years so can tell if something is wrong with lines,also all people i asked had eaten,not drinking heavy...i was tap for long time gave it up cos of stomoch and went to cans of bud.still same problem and with other beers like molsen etc,,full belly on me too before i hit the beer..and im 34 only last two years its happening age isnt the problem me thinks

I never drink beer after a meal.
I love a few pints and then have dinner.
Once I've eaten I'll only have a drop of brandy or wine.
Never had a stomach problem in my life.

Maybe it's the grub before the pints that's bothering you, as you say at 34 it's hardly the age.

mcdaids69 wrote: »

ex barman of 10 years so can tell if something is wrong with lines,also all people i asked had eaten,not drinking heavy...i was tap for long time gave it up cos of stomoch and went to cans of bud.still same problem and with other beers like molsen etc,,full belly on me too before i hit the beer..and im 34 only last two years its happening age isnt the problem me thinks

I see that Guinness (probably some others too) stopped using isinglass as a fining agent sometime in 2018 and switched to some other agent. This was to make it Vegan friendly.
I wonder what agent they using now?
Anyone from Guinness care to enlighten us?

https://www.veganfriendly.org.uk/is-it-vegan/beer/

This link lists the beers that are Vegan including Guinness Stout and Corona.

Can anyone tell me what fining agent is used by Irish brewers?

DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

Has Guinness changed its make-up recently,5-6 pints i use to be grand the next day,but lately ive being dying after 3-4 pints

In 2015 they reworked it to remove isinglass.

Edit - saabsaab on it already

partyguinness wrote: »

A difference I found drinking in Holland and Germany is that more often than not the glasses are not pint glasses. Usually half pints are slightly larger.

So you are drinking a lot less.

That’s a good difference, in my opinion and would help the alcohol problem in this country.

Instead of big-bellied topers opening their throats and gulling back pints in one or two chuggs, a more civilized way of drinking might ensue.

No more fifteen pinters pissing like dray horses once the seal is broken.

Flooding the conveniences.

saabsaab wrote: »

Does anyone know what organization/agency regulate beer standards in Ireland?

Don't weights and measures look after quantities, I would have thought quality would be a food thing?

Feisar wrote: »

Don't weights and measures look after quantities, I would have thought quality would be a food thing?

Thanks for that. Looks like you are correct on both counts.

https://www.fsai.ie/search-results.html?searchString=beer

https://www.nsai.ie/legal-metrology/enforcement-information/

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

What?

No you’re not, you’re just drinking each glass quicker. Would help not have it go warm though.

See post 73 dude.

Its just you baby..

Hi,

There's absolutely no doubt in my mind, that your better of serving a decent craft beer.

Sure, craft beer is a bit more expensive, but it's worth it, IMHO.

There are dozens of craft beers, so the trick is to try and find a few that you like, then see where you can get them at best price.

Both Aldi and Lidl do a selection of craft beers, some of which aren't half bad, and are a tad easier on the wallet.

Tesco, O'Briens etc often do promotions, where they do certain beers at 4 or 5 for a tenner.

Im not Irish my doesn't matter what it tastes like i want to taste with my 5 friends i will show you Guinness,

This could work?

Im getting likes for my 5 friends

Esel wrote: »

Why is craft beer dearer when the excise charged is less?

Because they like to rip off poor Pat.

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

More expensive to make mainly as it’s smaller quantities a lot of the time.

This. The excise reduction is available for breweries producing less than 40,000 hectolitres per year. Most of these microbreweries produce more than one brew, so annual production for each brew is some fraction of 40,000 hl. The excise reduction is given precisely in recognition of the fact that brewing in small batches is relatively inefficient and, therefore, relatively expensive; the idea is to facilitate the introduction of new beers into the market; it's intended to assist the brewer and only indirectly the drinker (in the sense that drinkers benefit from a wider range of choices, and from the ability of new beers to enter the market). The excise reduction may not fully offset the extra costs involved in brewing in small batches in a microbrewery.

I still wonder what process is used to filter Guinness and Smithwicks since 2018? Is it top secret?

saabsaab wrote: »

I still wonder what process is used to filter Guinness and Smithwicks since 2018? Is it top secret?

Look at the Wikipedia Isinglass page. Not a secret there.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isinglass

"A beer-fining agent that is suitable for vegetarians is Irish moss, a type of red algae containing the polymer chemical carrageenan."

I'm not saying this is definitely what Guinness use, but I'd say it is the most likely answer to your question.

Esel wrote: »

Look at the Wikipedia Isinglass page. Not a secret there.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isinglass

"A beer-fining agent that is suitable for vegetarians is Irish moss, a type of red algae containing the polymer chemical carrageenan."

I'm not saying this is definitely what Guinness use, but I'd say it is the most likely answer to your question.

Why don't they want to say so then?

Esel wrote: »

Ah, here - how would I know that?

Why are you so interested in this?

I wasn't saying that you would necessarily know unless of course you worked for Guinness/Smithwicks.



I would like to know what change was made to remove isinglass from the process because I want to know what I am drinking now.

saabsaab wrote: »

I wasn't saying that you would necessarily know unless of course you worked for Guinness/Smithwicks.



I would like to know what change was made to remove isinglass from the process because I want to know what I am drinking now.

Perhaps if you dropped an email to Guinness/Diageo the information might be forthcoming. If you do please report back.

Peregrinus wrote: »

The fining agent is removed after doing its work. Whether it is biofine, synthetic gelatin or Irish moss, you're not drinking any of it. Just like, in the past, you weren't drinking isinglass.

Correct and it's not something that would keep me awake at night. As far as I can see the vegans objections were based on the fact that animal products were used during the production process rather than that they were drinking same.