new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

Kermit.de.frog · 17-02-2020 02:34PM

Yurt! wrote: »

Finally, Cork's big chance to shine! Get the diggers out lads, we've got an Olympic stadium to build! By Christ, we might actually get two events centres out of this.

Your former mayor said your city is infected.

"Worse than Wuhan" he said...

War time conditions must be imposed.

SeaBreezes · 17-02-2020 02:43PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Your former mayor said your city is infected.

"Worse than Wuhan" he said...

War time conditions must be imposed.

Any follow up on that? Anyone hear anything?

GooglePlus · 17-02-2020 02:45PM

Considering this is very similar in make up to the original SARS pathogen, I wonder if it will just die off in the peak temp month of July.

It hates humidity and warmth, so maybe it'll just disappear like original SARS did??

wadacrack · 17-02-2020 02:53PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Considering this is very similar in make up to the original SARS pathogen, I wonder if it will just die off in the peak temp month of July.

It hates humidity and warmth, so maybe it'll just disappear like original SARS did??

The warmer weather should definitely help. Id be greatly worried about the Cruise ship developments however. It might be time to start looking into the most effective treatment for this, who is most vulnerable. How behavior can limit the spread. Containing the virus seems to be extremely difficult. Governments might not be totally transparent in a month or so to protect their economy

BorneTobyWilde · 17-02-2020 02:54PM

Keeping people on the cruise ship was a big mistake. You don't put 1000's on people into quarantine with an infected person. You remove them asap to self quarantine. All they did was infect 100's more, and now it's a case of move them before they all are infected.

silverharp · 17-02-2020 02:59PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Keeping people on the cruise ship was a big mistake. You don't put 1000's on people into quarantine with an infected person. You remove them asap to self quarantine. All they did was infect 100's more, and now it's a case of move them before they all are infected.

Mad scientist stuff for sure.

Probably a lot of patients who have normal flu etc catching it in Chinese hospitals too.

Nijmegen · 17-02-2020 02:59PM

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

It hasn't been, it's been cancelled for the general public. Elite runners will still be running.

So it's going from 38,000 people to 206. Not quite cancelled but basically cancelled if 99.19% of participants aren't running.

Sensible move to be honest, but yeah if getting that many people together isn't a good idea for the marathon it won't be a good idea for the Olympics. An estimated 10 million visitors are expected to travel to Tokyo for the Olympics. If this thing is still going, the Olympics won't be going ahead.

dublin99 · 17-02-2020 03:02PM

wadacrack wrote: »

The warmer weather should definitely help.

Singapore is year round 30 degree celsius and rel humidity of 70-80%, but the virus is spreading in the community!

RebelButtMunch · 17-02-2020 03:12PM

Nijmegen wrote: »

So it's going from 38,000 people to 206. Not quite cancelled but basically cancelled if 99.19% of participants aren't running.

Sensible move to be honest, but yeah if getting that many people together isn't a good idea for the marathon it won't be a good idea for the Olympics. An estimated 10 million visitors are expected to travel to Tokyo for the Olympics. If this thing is still going, the Olympics won't be going ahead.

So it's not cancelled but basically it's cancelled. Step away from the keyboard.

bmcc10 · 17-02-2020 03:15PM

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

So it's not cancelled but basically it's cancelled. Step away from the keyboard.

Would suit you to step away

cnocbui · 17-02-2020 03:18PM

dominatinMC wrote: »

A lot of really nonsensical remarks about the Japanese government on here. You have to ask yourself, what is the purpose of the Japanese government (or any government, for that matter). Clearly, it is to govern and, by-extension, make decisions on behalf-of (and for) its people. I believe the Japanese government made the decision not to treat the passengers on the ship, in the best interests of its own people - and who are we to criticise that decision. To be honest, if I was Japanese I would be glad they did so, looking after their own people first. I know it is a questionable decision, both morally and ethically, but you have to consider the greater good at times.

When those on the ship get sick, they are brought off and end up in hospital, putting a strain on resources. You think you have protected Japan or served it's interests by making it 450 in hospital rather than 10? How about 3,000 needing hospitalisation?

wadacrack · 17-02-2020 03:24PM

dublin99 wrote: »

Singapore is year round 30 degree celsius and rel humidity of 70-80%, but the virus is spreading in the community!

Viruses don't last as long on surfaces in warmer weather. Its probably limiting it to some extent in Singapore

CinemaGuy45 · 17-02-2020 03:27PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Any follow up on that? Anyone hear anything?

Yes Cork is going to be sealed off from Wednesday any of you seen on the streets without a full hazmat suit will be shot on sight.

The Government will be telling us not to panic as it is only Cork.

Nijmegen · 17-02-2020 03:29PM

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

So it's not cancelled but basically it's cancelled. Step away from the keyboard.

It's a turn of phrase... Marathons are typically massive events with tens of thousands of runners and spectators. The public aspect of it is as much if not a bigger part of the significance of a marathon as the elite athletes who run and complete with standings then qualifying for other events.

This will be a closed door exercise with 300 people running, less than 1% of the total planned. The public event is certainly cancelled and if the virus isn't under control then at best you will have an Olympics that is closed door, camera crews plus competitors. Even then, given the number of competitors (there was over 11,000 at Rio) at an Olympics and their support staff kept together in athletes villages you could see it being totally cancelled.

dublin99 · 17-02-2020 03:33PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Viruses don't last as long on surfaces in warmer weather. Its probably limiting it to some extent in Singapore

On average....this family of viruses can survive between four and five days

https://www.sciencealert.com/study-shows-just-how-long-coronaviruses-can-stick-around-on-a-surface

wadacrack · 17-02-2020 03:42PM

dublin99 wrote: »

On average....this family of viruses can survive between four and five days

https://www.sciencealert.com/study-shows-just-how-long-coronaviruses-can-stick-around-on-a-surface

It s highly likely that it lasts longer than that in colder conditions as with other viruses. Its one the reason SARS which is genetically very similar slowed down in the summer months. This has been stated by a few experts on it.

wadacrack · 17-02-2020 03:43PM

dublin99 wrote: »

On average....this family of viruses can survive between four and five days

https://www.sciencealert.com/study-shows-just-how-long-coronaviruses-can-stick-around-on-a-surface

"Low temperature and high air humidity further increase their lifespan," says physician Günter Kampf at the Greifswald University Hospital.

From your article

wakka12 · 17-02-2020 03:45PM

Amazing healthcare in Singapore, just 4 patients in critical condition now, 9 just two days ago.

17-02-2020 03:45PM

I can see a run on human size fridges.

MarkY91 · 17-02-2020 04:06PM

All these articles about Singapore's economy and tourism taking a huge hit yet the euro isnt gaining anything against the SGD..I would have thought differently. I guess my econonics knowledge is way off lol

odyssey06 · 17-02-2020 04:10PM

MarkY91 wrote: »

All these articles about Singapore's economy and tourism taking a huge hit yet the euro isnt gaining anything against the SGD..I would have thought differently. I guess my econonics knowledge is way off lol

It's dropping against the US Dollar, strange if it hasn't also declined versus Euro...
https://www.cmcmarkets.com/en-ie/news-and-analysis/singapore-cuts-2020-growth-forecast-japan-gdp-slumps

Drumpot · 17-02-2020 04:48PM

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1229429360957902849?s=20

Interesting live feed of WHO answering questions

Call Me Jimmy · 17-02-2020 05:46PM

Was it confirmed the other day that its airborne? I saw a clip of the WHO head comparing it to ebola, basically saying ebola is not comparable to it and he mentioned it being airborne. Anyone else see that?

17-02-2020 06:18PM

joseywhales wrote: »

Be grand lads, come over and get your dose early, be better in the long run.

At least if you get it now and you develop acute illness, you can get treatment before the healthcare system is completely overwhelmed...think about it, head over , share around a few water bottles, head back and recover.

I had been harbouring secret thoughts of wanting to get this dose over and done with, but so far I’m reading that you don’t benefit by immunity from a recurrence of exact same virus, and indeed like the case in Dengue a Fever, the second dose kills you

17-02-2020 06:19PM

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Was it confirmed the other day that its airborne? I saw a clip of the WHO head comparing it to ebola, basically saying ebola is not comparable to it and he mentioned it being airborne. Anyone else see that?

I keep seeing from WHO and other sources it is indeed airborne, merely breathing in the exhaled air (not necessarily coughed or sneezed etc) of someone with the virus can do it.

tuxy · 17-02-2020 06:23PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I keep seeing from WHO and other sources it is indeed airborne, merely breathing in the exhaled air (not necessarily coughed or sneezed etc) of someone with the virus can do it.

And I keep seeing that the WHO say that it's possible but no evidence yet.

If you have some recent developments on this can you post links as it would be a major development.

17-02-2020 06:24PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Amazing healthcare in Singapore, just 4 patients in critical condition now, 9 just two days ago.

I remember when seeking advice about getting medical care should I take sick in Vietnam & Cambodia the advice was to get myself to either Bangkok or Singapore ASAP. I used to have ulcerative colitis, and heard of excellent treatment available for it in either place, once you have insurance.

cnocbui · 17-02-2020 06:29PM

NZ is the latest to say they will rescue their citizens from the plague ship.

saabsaab · 17-02-2020 07:11PM

No good news yet on this except that there are no 'confirmed' cases here yet.

bodhrandude · 17-02-2020 07:57PM

Thread's gone quiet does this mean the virus in disappearing, hopefully a good sign.

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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